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'dream team' designs: OXP or standard?

Posted: Mon Apr 02, 2007 7:27 am
by Rxke
The excellent job done by the dream team makes me drool.

https://bb.oolite.space/viewtopic.php?t=2961
https://bb.oolite.space/viewtopic.php?t=3295

So I really would like to see it (when it is finished) to be standard in-game rather than just another OXP. Don't get me wrong, OXP's are great but I think a lot of people initially play Oolite sans OXP's and only discover them later on. So if the new models would be standard and not an option , first impression of Oolite would be markedly better (rather: even better) than it is now.

So whaddayathink?

Posted: Mon Apr 02, 2007 8:17 am
by TGHC
My vote is to make them standard, however I support continual improvement, and I do like the variations of the Cobbie3 from the pimping competition.

So I say implement the new textures in a new version release by all means, and keep them OXP's coming.

Posted: Mon Apr 02, 2007 11:32 am
by Captain Hesperus
I love the 'Dream Team' version, but I worry that my system might not cope with the extra detail. Would there any greater strain on an OS if the new ships were standard? If so, then could you run two versions of Oolite, a 1.XX and a 1.XXHD (high detail). If there is no extra demand, then I'm all for it! I think that the graphical advancements, as well as the behind the scenes work dome by Ahruman et al, make the game more attractive to old 'Elite'ists and new youngbloods alike, while maintaining the charm of the game we all grew up addicted to.

Captain Hesperus

Posted: Mon Apr 02, 2007 11:49 am
by Commander McLane
I have to admit I don't know. Have to make up my mind first.

On the one side there are some really gorgeous ships among them.

On the other side it is a major change to the Elite-world.

So I am a bit torn apart between graphical beauty and continuity.

Can't say more at this point.

Posted: Mon Apr 02, 2007 11:51 am
by reills
I voted to leave the original ships as the standard for systems that might not behave well with the increased work (if there isn't any increase in the load on the computer, then, well...). :D

Posted: Mon Apr 02, 2007 11:54 am
by Star Gazer
I'd like to see the new models as the basis of v2.0 of Oolite, with some time spent sifting missions to see if some of them could be integrated into the new version, with others remaining as oxps - I realise that might be an inflamatory process involving 'pistols at dawn'...

Posted: Mon Apr 02, 2007 12:04 pm
by another_commander
I believe the new ship models, although great looking and all, should be initally left as OXP additions. Once they are released and we see them in game, have a feel of what they actually are like and what impact they have on the game's performance, then we could move them to the standard resource folders.

So my vote is: not right now, but most probably after they have been released and tested sufficiently in game.

Posted: Mon Apr 02, 2007 1:19 pm
by jonnycuba
nice work but mos def OXP for me!

Posted: Mon Apr 02, 2007 6:13 pm
by Charlie
Am I allowed to sit on the fence?

I'd like to see the ships packed into a single 'offical' .oxp distributed alongside the main install.

Best of both worlds?
or
Am I a wishy-washy Liberal?

( If I can't sit on the fence, how about a spike? One would be fine, two an extravigance! )

Posted: Mon Apr 02, 2007 6:22 pm
by reills
I was once asked if I had trouble making decisions. I replied "Well, yes and no." :D

Posted: Mon Apr 02, 2007 6:46 pm
by Captain Hesperus
Charlie wrote:
Am I allowed to sit on the fence?
You could always claim to be a weak-willed flip-flopper....:D

Captain Hesperus

Posted: Tue Apr 03, 2007 6:56 am
by Gareth3377
Awesome as the models are, I believe they should be an OXP first, see what impact they have on performance. If lower end machines can cope then I say make them standard.

The models, at the end of the day, are more or less identical to the originals anyway. I'm just concerned about the hit in performance.

Cheers

Posted: Thu Apr 05, 2007 4:30 pm
by Vajo
At the Oolite Wiki is a complete texture file. That looks good for me.

Posted: Sat Apr 07, 2007 12:09 am
by julyy
Maybe there should be an option in Menue to choose between classic and new designed ships??

As for me I like the current ships also very much and would not like to loose them completely. Some ships of Giles are beautiful and simple. I like that.

Posted: Sun Apr 08, 2007 9:09 am
by ovvldc
There is already a reduced detail configuration. Perhaps it would be good to link the shaders and new models to that setting?

Best wishes,
Oscar