Help with a strange Ghost Bug (not the usual one)!

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Help with a strange Ghost Bug (not the usual one)!

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I'm working on an OXP with Ramon & Heritic, which features some very big but killable ships. EG:-

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The ship is big and uses a lot of sub-entries for its turrents and other bits of it. (bridge, shield generators and 4 turrets).

The ship works well in playtesting, but a stange effect keeps happening when the ship is killed. Although it dies and blows up most impressivley, a ghost of the ship is left in space.

Oolite knows the ship is dead (it death_actions trigger). It stops fireing and just spins about venting plasma. The ship is really a ghost as you can fly through it without harm.

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This is very odd. But perhaps it has somthing to do with the number of sub-entries.

Can anybody think why this should happen?

At the moment the sub-entries all have energy values. Do they need this to work? Would they still work if I set them to zero? Could this be causing the bug?

Would giving the main and the sub-entries the death-actions become explosion help?

It is very odd as Oolite knows the ship its dead but leaves it's image there.
Any thoughts?
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Post by aegidian »

This is the second instance I've seen of a large ship or carrier/station leaving a ghost when destroyed.

Which narrows down the search for this bug somewhat.
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Post by LittleBear »

If it helps, this ship is not a carrier (it dosen't need defence ships with 4 turrets, 2 military lasers, 2 thargoid lasers and 12 Hard Head Missiles!), but it is carrier size.
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Post by ramon »

and <key>frangible is set to true if this makes any difference, and all the subentities use NullAI.
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Post by LittleBear »

Should have mentioned that. But I think it is somthing to do with size, as the same problem happend when I made the Military Station destroyable to test the DeathBurger Script.
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In that case, try scaling the model down and see what happens. :-)
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I don't want to make it small though!
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Post by JensAyton »

No, but it would test your hypothesis. (I suspect that the problem would remain, but if it didn’t, that would be valuable debugging information.)
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