Re: OXPs - Strategic thinking!
Posted: Mon Jun 07, 2021 1:22 am
If a cadet isn't fit for the job, it's better he explodes in a "cheap" sunk skimmer than in an expensive fighter.
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OXPs - Strategic thinking!
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Re: OXPs - Strategic thinking!
Posted: Mon Jun 07, 2021 1:27 am
Re: OXPs - Strategic thinking!
Posted: Mon Jun 07, 2021 6:14 am
Re: OXPs - Strategic thinking!
Posted: Fri Oct 14, 2022 11:28 am
Going back to Managing Battles.
YouTube - Elite: Dangerous - Imperial vs Federation Capital Ship
What would we need to simulate an invasion? Am I correct in presuming that Resistance Commander does not do this?
(Say an invasion of a feudal by several commies?)
With the systems oxp's we get smaller ships for the Commie navies, and individual ships for the feudals. No capital ships in them, though (unless I misunderstand what I've read).
Can we make the battle convincing?
- Can we replicate ships bombarding the planet from orbit?
What about neutrals (eg the player - as in the YouTube film linked above)?
What else would there be to consider?
- Montana suggested earlier that there might already be an AI usable for ships starting off the battle...
First List: Possible things needing to be manipulated in-game to create a war
1) Navies on the move.
2) Admirals giving orders... (of grandiosity to be determined...)
3) Massive space battles with possible player involvement
4) Wrecks, lots of valuable detritus generated for scooping (some too big to scoop!), life boats, rescue pods, beings in spacesuits etc
5) Planetary Invasions - and planetary defences too! Massive lasers scouring the heavens...
6) No-go zones
7) Regime changes
How much of this do we actually have ... and how much would be a pain in the unmentionables to manage?
Second List: Possible resources for somebody trying to create a "wars" oxp
*Category:Navies (every ship I've come across which looks naval)
*Category:Systems OXPs (for naval ships for commies, dictatorships etc).
*Configurable Populator has code for altering the population of the solar system (to reduce normal traffic in times of war)
*Station Validator remembers the destruction of orbital stations, preventing their magical resurrection on one's next visit to the system. Spara (2014).
*Coriolis (burning) - this has old textures - and needs finishing (when you dock, the station acts as if all were normal)
*Imperial Star Destroyer contains code for Factories (making Tie-fighters/Tie-interceptors)
*Leviathan Platform - a planetary defence platform
Peripheral matters:
*Diplomancy OXP - has war maps showing warring systems, and allows citizenship of systems and declaration as a refugee for enemy citizens in warring systems (needs work - there is a perpetual declaration of peace, and a resumption of illegality in neutral systems if war is redeclared).
*GNN allows declaration of wars/invasions/truces etc - already used by Diplomancy for this
(The above material has been copied from the Galactic Navies thread)
YouTube - Elite: Dangerous - Imperial vs Federation Capital Ship
What would we need to simulate an invasion? Am I correct in presuming that Resistance Commander does not do this?
(Say an invasion of a feudal by several commies?)
With the systems oxp's we get smaller ships for the Commie navies, and individual ships for the feudals. No capital ships in them, though (unless I misunderstand what I've read).
Can we make the battle convincing?
- Can we replicate ships bombarding the planet from orbit?
What about neutrals (eg the player - as in the YouTube film linked above)?
What else would there be to consider?
- Montana suggested earlier that there might already be an AI usable for ships starting off the battle...
Would we need more appropriate AI's?
First List: Possible things needing to be manipulated in-game to create a war
1) Navies on the move.
2) Admirals giving orders... (of grandiosity to be determined...)
3) Massive space battles with possible player involvement
4) Wrecks, lots of valuable detritus generated for scooping (some too big to scoop!), life boats, rescue pods, beings in spacesuits etc
5) Planetary Invasions - and planetary defences too! Massive lasers scouring the heavens...
6) No-go zones
7) Regime changes
How much of this do we actually have ... and how much would be a pain in the unmentionables to manage?
montana05 wrote: ↑Wed Aug 04, 2021 4:19 pm1) 3) 4) easy to do
2) possible and if just inactive for the player easy to implement
5) invasions could be done, planetary super lasers sounds to me like Star Wars, we should settle for defense platforms first
6) 7) possible but would require some analysis first
Second List: Possible resources for somebody trying to create a "wars" oxp
*Category:Navies (every ship I've come across which looks naval)
*Category:Systems OXPs (for naval ships for commies, dictatorships etc).
*Configurable Populator has code for altering the population of the solar system (to reduce normal traffic in times of war)
*Station Validator remembers the destruction of orbital stations, preventing their magical resurrection on one's next visit to the system. Spara (2014).
*Coriolis (burning) - this has old textures - and needs finishing (when you dock, the station acts as if all were normal)
*Imperial Star Destroyer contains code for Factories (making Tie-fighters/Tie-interceptors)
*Leviathan Platform - a planetary defence platform
Peripheral matters:
*Diplomancy OXP - has war maps showing warring systems, and allows citizenship of systems and declaration as a refugee for enemy citizens in warring systems (needs work - there is a perpetual declaration of peace, and a resumption of illegality in neutral systems if war is redeclared).
*GNN allows declaration of wars/invasions/truces etc - already used by Diplomancy for this
(The above material has been copied from the Galactic Navies thread)
Re: OXPs - Strategic thinking!
Posted: Fri Oct 14, 2022 12:18 pm
One of my (lot) WIP's include a small fleet attacking the main planet, admiral orders, drop shuttles and bombardment included before the entire fleet is going down on the planet. The entire scenario is tested and is working.
If you like, I can upload the OXP for you so that you can have a look. Warning ! The package includes various other (harmless) scenarios as well, like a hospital ship sending aid to a planet or the behavior of traders too large to dock.
Re: OXPs - Strategic thinking!
Posted: Fri Oct 14, 2022 12:23 pm
Goodness me! Hero! That sounds absolutely super!! Well done!montana05 wrote: ↑Fri Oct 14, 2022 12:18 pmOne of my (lot) WIP's include a small fleet attacking the main planet, admiral orders, drop shuttles and bombardment included before the entire fleet is going down on the planet. The entire scenario is tested and is working.
If you like, I can upload the OXP for you so that you can have a look. Warning ! The package includes various other (harmless) scenarios as well, like a hospital ship sending aid to a planet or the behavior of traders too large to dock.
I'd love to see it! Will you be calling it "Montana's Monumentally Murderous Modifications"?
Re: OXPs - Strategic thinking!
Posted: Fri Oct 14, 2022 12:41 pm
Here we go:Cholmondely wrote: ↑Fri Oct 14, 2022 12:23 pmGoodness me! Hero! That sounds absolutely super!! Well done!montana05 wrote: ↑Fri Oct 14, 2022 12:18 pmOne of my (lot) WIP's include a small fleet attacking the main planet, admiral orders, drop shuttles and bombardment included before the entire fleet is going down on the planet. The entire scenario is tested and is working.
If you like, I can upload the OXP for you so that you can have a look. Warning ! The package includes various other (harmless) scenarios as well, like a hospital ship sending aid to a planet or the behavior of traders too large to dock.
I'd love to see it! Will you be calling it "Montana's Monumentally Murderous Modifications"?
https://app.box.com/s/35s7upenqndlm53kfoy2kqp9crqay8z8
Please remember it is a WIP so a bit chaotic and not cleaned up and therefore not useful to publish in the current state. BTW the name is simple Lambda Series
Re: OXPs - Strategic thinking!
Posted: Fri Oct 14, 2022 2:30 pm
Sorry to be a pain:montana05 wrote: ↑Fri Oct 14, 2022 12:41 pmHere we go:
https://app.box.com/s/35s7upenqndlm53kfoy2kqp9crqay8z8
Please remember it is a WIP so a bit chaotic and not cleaned up and therefore not useful to publish in the current state. BTW the name is simple Lambda Series
- Do I need any other oxp's to be loaded? (Aquatics? Dictators? Church of the Holy Witchspace Guard?)
- Do I need to be at any particular system? (a dictatorship?)
Lots of error messages on my AppleMac (hahaha! Surprised?)
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EquipmentRemoveItemColor 1.4
EquipmentStorage 1.7
extra_tanks_script.js 1.8
FastTargetSelector 1.5
feudal-challenge.js 9.1
feudal-mission.js 9.1
feudal-planetfall.js 3.1
feudal-promotion.js 6.1
feudal-ranks.js 5.1
feudal-tournament.js 10.1
fireworks 1.1
FlightLog 1.11
FuelTweaks_FuelEconomy 1.14.4
FuelTweaks_Quirium 1.14.4
FuelTweaks_StationSetup 1.14.4
GalacticRegistry 5.2
GalCopAdminServices 1.7.9
GalCopBB_AsteroidFields 0.6.6
GalCopBB_CargoMonitor 0.6.6
GalCopBB_CargoStopper 0.6.6
GalCopBB_Charity 0.6.6
GalCopBB_CoreMissionValues 0.6.6
GalCopBB_DataCache 0.6.6
GalCopBB_Defend 0.6.6
GalCopBB_Delivery 0.6.6
GalCopBB_Derelict 0.6.6
GalCopBB_DiseaseOutbreak 0.6.6
GalCopBB_Earthquake 0.6.6
GalCopBB_EjectionDamper 0.6.6
GalCopBB_EscapePods 0.6.6
GalCopBB_GoonSquads 0.6.6
GalCopBB_HitTeams 0.6.6
GalCopBB_Investigations 0.6.6
GalCopBB_LifeSupport 0.6.6
GalCopBB_MeetShip 0.6.6
GalCopBB_MissionDetails 0.6.6
GalCopBB_Missions 0.6.6
GalCopBB_Missions_MFD 0.6.6
GalCopBB_PirateBases 0.6.6
GalCopBB_RangeFinder_MFD 0.6.6
GalCopBB_Reputation 0.6.6
GalCopBB_Satellites 0.6.6
GalCopBB_ShipInteractions 0.6.6
GalCopBB_SoftwareInstall 0.6.6
GalCopBB_SolarActivity 0.6.6
GalCopBB_StationDisrupt 0.6.6
GalCopBB_Warzone 0.6.6
GalCopBB_WBSA 0.6.6
GlareClarifier 1.0
GNN 1.2
GNN_PhraseGen 1.2
GNN_Words 1.2
hdbg 1.0
hdbg-2
hdbg-a 1.0
headlights 1.2
hermit_tweaks 0.1
HomeSystem 0.12
hudselector 1.18
illegal_goods_missions 2.2.6
illegal_goods_tweak 2.2.6
ils 1.14
IronHide Armour Script 3.06
LaserArrangement 1.3
LaveAcademy 1.33
Lib_2DCollision 1.7.1
Lib_Animator 1.7.1
Lib_BinSearch 1.7.1
Lib_Config 1.7.1
Lib_Crypt 1.7.1
Lib_Cubecode 1.7.1
Lib_EntityStrength 1.7.1
Lib_GUI 1.7.1
Lib_Main 1.7.1
Lib_MissionCoord 1.7.1
Lib_Music 1.7.1
Lib_PAD 1.7.1
Lib_PAD_Events 1.7.1
Lib_Starmap 1.7.1
Library book: EFTTCAOIL 1.2
liners_populator_script.js 1.6.2
LinersMarkets 1.4
LMSS_Core 2.5
logevents 1.4
LongRangeScanner 0.3
MaintenanceTuneUp_Core 0.3
market_inquirer 1.14.1
market_observer3 3.7
Missile Beep 1.3
mo-traders_rating3 3.7
MRP01_ressource_spawn 0.53
NavalGrid 2.0
NoMarketNotification 1.1
NPC_Equipment_Damage 0.3.0
Oolite Equipment Control 1.90
Oolite Ship Library 1.90
oolite-cloaking-device 1.90
oolite-constrictor-hunt 1.90
oolite-contracts-cargo 1.90
oolite-contracts-helpers 1.90
oolite-contracts-parcels 1.90
oolite-contracts-passengers 1.90
oolite-libPriorityAI 1.90
oolite-nova 1.90
oolite-populator 1.90
oolite-primable-equipment-register 1.90
oolite-registership 1.90
oolite-system-data-config 0.9
oolite-thargoid-plans 1.90
oolite-trumbles 3.5
oolite-tutorial 1.90
personalities 0.9.1
planetaryCompass_namePack-A 1.00
planetaryCompass_namePack-B 1.00
planetaryCompass_namePack-C 1.00
planetaryCompass_namePack-D 1.00
planetaryCompass_worldScript.js 1.02
PlanetFall 1.51
planetfall_markets 0.1
PlanetFallMarketSaver 0.1
pods 1.48
Police_Scanner_Upgrade 1.3.1
PrimeableEquipmentMFD 1.0
Random_Hits 1.11.5
randomshipnames 1.6
RandomStationNames 0.8
Repair System 2.14
RingRacer 1.20
RiskyBusiness_Control 0.1
safetycatch 1.3
Satellite 1.10
SE-main-script 2.7
Ship_Storage_Helper.js 0.38
Ships Library 0.8
Smugglers_BlackMarket 1.5.8
Smugglers_Contracts 1.5.8
Smugglers_CoreFunctions 1.5.8
Smugglers_DockMaster 1.5.8
Smugglers_Equipment 1.5.8
Smugglers_Illegal 1.5.8
Smugglers_MoveCargo 1.5.8
Smugglers_Oolite_Contracts_Fix 1.5.8
sniperlock 1.0
sniperlock_fix 1.0
SolarFlares 1.1
spicy_hermits_abandoned 1.0.3
spicy_hermits_relocator 1.0.3
spicy_hermits_star-jellies 1.0.3
start_choices 1.7
station_options 1.1
StationDockControl 1.1.25
StationDockControl_EscortLaunch 1.1.25
StationDockControl_HackChip 1.1.25
StationDockControl_Interface 1.1.25
StationDockControl_MFD 1.1.25
StationDockControl_Populator 1.1.25
StationDockControl_ShuttleLaunch 1.1.25
Sunskimmers 0.2
swr_star_wars_remake_ws 0.5.0
System Features: Rings 2.10.3
System Features: Sunspots 1.5
Target Filtering System 2.075
TargetSystemPlugins_FilterSort 0.81
TargetSystemPlugins_SharedHandlers 0.81
TargetSystemPlugins_ShortRangeSnapshot 0.81
TargetSystemPlugins_TargetMemoryInterface 0.81
tech_ref_lib 1.0.1
telescope 2.0
telescope_debug 1.0
telescope_fps_monitor 1.2
telescopeeq 2.0
Tionisla Chronicle Array OXP 1.04
togy_Cabal_Common_PhraseGen 0.98.2
togy_Cabal_Common_PhraseGenWords 0.98
TOGY_Main 2.4
towbar 0.103
towbarmissions 0.103
Tracker 1.05
TrafficControl 2.02
trails 1.11
trophy_col 2.3.0
Undocumented Launch 1.0
useful_MFDs 0.6
VimanaAlerts 1.00
VimanaHUD 2.075
Welcome Information Script 1.13
Xenon UI Resource Pack H (16:10) 2.0
XenonUI 3.5
XenonUI_Compatibility 3.5
XenonUI_CoreMissionFixes 3.5
YAH_mobile_populator 1.0
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17:40:37.326 [LogEvents] GlobalLog (OOJSGlobal.m:266): system information changed in galaxy 0 system 49 key sun_name to undefined
17:40:37.326 [LogEvents] GlobalLog (OOJSGlobal.m:266): system information changed in galaxy 0 system 49 key sun_name to Malama Stella
17:40:37.326 [LogEvents] GlobalLog (OOJSGlobal.m:266): system information changed in galaxy 0 system 49 key sun_name to Illum Cornutum (Star)
17:40:38.258 [Sunskimmers] GlobalLog (OOJSGlobal.m:266): 1 ship(s) added in pirate_4
17:40:38.258 [Sunskimmers] GlobalLog (OOJSGlobal.m:266): [Ship "Fer-de-Lance" position: (602573, -533765, 386422) scanClass: CLASS_NEUTRAL status: STATUS_IN_FLIGHT]
17:40:38.478 [LogEvents] GlobalLog (OOJSGlobal.m:266): Populators:
{"oolite-thargoid-scouts":{"priority":40,"location":"LANE_WPS","groupCount":1},
"oolite-hunters-route1":{"priority":40,"location":"LANE_WP","groupCount":2},
"oolite-pirate-independent-route1":{"priority":40,"location":"LANE_WP","groupCount":5},
"oolite-pirate-independent-route2":{"priority":40,"location":"LANE_PS","groupCount":1},
"oolite-pirate-independent-route3":{"priority":40,"location":"LANE_WS","groupCount":1},
"oolite-route1-asteroids":{"groupCount":1,"deterministic":1,"priority":20,"location":"LANE_WP","locationSeed":51728},
"oolite-police-route1":{"priority":40,"location":"LANE_WP","groupCount":0},
"oolite-interceptors-witchpoint":{"priority":40,"location":"WITCHPOINT","groupCount":0},
"oolite-pirate-medium-remote":{"priority":40,"location":"LANE_WP","groupCount":1},
"spicy_hermits_abandoned1":{"location":"PLANET_ORBIT_HIGH"},
"oolite-couriers-route3":{"priority":40,"location":"LANE_WS","groupCount":1},
"oolite-interceptors-route1":{"priority":40,"location":"LANE_WP","groupCount":0},
"oolite-pirate-medium-triangle":{"priority":40,"location":"LANE_WPS","groupCount":0},
"rs_satellite_0":{"coordinates":[-9118.9755859375,-3551.925537109375,797776],"location":"COORDINATES"},
"dictators_imptanker1":{"coordinates":[0,0,563136],"location":"COORDINATES"},
"oolite-pirate-light-remote":{"priority":40,"location":"LANE_WP","groupCount":0},
"oolite-freighters-docking":{"priority":40,"location":"STATION_AEGIS","groupCount":1},
"oolite-freighters":{"priority":40,"location":"LANE_WP","groupCount":7},
"oolite-hunters-medium-route3":{"priority":40,"location":"LANE_WS","groupCount":0},
"oolite-couriers-route1":{"priority":40,"location":"LANE_WP","groupCount":0},
"oolite-route2-asteroids":{"groupCount":3,"deterministic":1,"priority":20,"location":"LANE_PS","locationSeed":82715},
"oolite-hunters-medium-route1":{"priority":40,"location":"LANE_WP","groupCount":0},
"rs_satellite_1":{"coordinates":[75968.6328125,57982.7265625,677616.875],"location":"COORDINATES"},
"oolite-smugglers":{"priority":40,"location":"LANE_WP","groupCount":1},
"oolite-pirate-heavy-remote":{"priority":40,"location":"LANE_WP","groupCount":0},
"oolite-pirate-light-route1":{"priority":40,"location":"LANE_WP","groupCount":2},
"dictators_impfreighter2":{"coordinates":[0,0,492744],"location":"COORDINATES"},
"oolite-offlane-hermit":{"groupCount":1,"deterministic":1,"priority":99,"location":"PLANET_ORBIT_HIGH","locationSeed":71258},
"sunskim_pirate_4":{"coordinates":[594926.75,-531670.75,387085.625],"location":"COORDINATES"},
"oolite-hunters-triangle":{"priority":40,"location":"LANE_WPS","groupCount":1},
"oolite-pirate-heavy-route1":{"priority":40,"location":"LANE_WP","groupCount":0},
"spicy_hermits_abandoned0":{"location":"PLANET_ORBIT_HIGH"},
"oolite-police-triangle":{"priority":40,"location":"LANE_WPS","groupCount":0},
"oolite-police-stationpatrol":{"location":"STATION_AEGIS","priority":40},
"dictators_imptanker2":{"coordinates":[0,0,281568],"location":"COORDINATES"},
"oolite-hunters-heavy-route3":{"priority":40,"location":"LANE_WS","groupCount":0},
"dictators_astrofactory":{"deterministic":1,"location":"COORDINATES","coordinates":[-50935.80859375,-30366.859375,211176.015625]},
"dictators_impfreighter1":{"coordinates":[0,0,211176.015625],"location":"COORDINATES"},
"oolite-hunters-heavy-route1":{"priority":40,"location":"LANE_WP","groupCount":0},
"oolite-thargoid-strike":{"priority":40,"location":"LANE_WPS","groupCount":0},
"oolite-pirate-medium-route1":{"priority":40,"location":"LANE_WP","groupCount":0},
"oolite-pirate-heavy-triangle":{"priority":40,"location":"LANE_WPS","groupCount":0},
"oolite-nav-buoy":{"deterministic":1,"coordinates":[-65251.84765625,64071.30859375,647681.0625],"priority":5,"location":"COORDINATES"},
"oolite-assassins":{"priority":40,"location":"WITCHPOINT","groupCount":1},
"system_features_sunspots":{"coordinates":[915271.9375,-817955,595516.3125],"priority":1000},
"oolite-witch-buoy":{"deterministic":1,"priority":10,"location":"COORDINATES","coordinates":[0,0,0]},
"oolite-pirate-light-triangle":{"priority":40,"location":"LANE_WPS","groupCount":0}}
17:40:38.480 [LogEvents] GlobalLog (OOJSGlobal.m:266): system information changed in galaxy 0 system 49 key sun_name to undefined
17:40:38.480 [LogEvents] GlobalLog (OOJSGlobal.m:266): system information changed in galaxy 0 system 49 key sun_name to Malama Stella
17:40:38.480 [LogEvents] GlobalLog (OOJSGlobal.m:266): system information changed in galaxy 0 system 49 key sun_name to Illum Cornutum (Star)
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17:40:39.081 [LogEvents] GlobalLog (OOJSGlobal.m:266): mission screen opportunity
17:40:39.082 [WARNING] GlobalLog (OOJSGlobal.m:266): Warning! Global namespace polluted by:
17:40:39.082 [WARNING] GlobalLog (OOJSGlobal.m:266): ["key","c"]
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17:40:39.391 [swr_ship_script] GlobalLog (OOJSGlobal.m:266): Lifeboat_cargo-1B , SSG Moray Guard Boat, 2, firearms, 2, 1
17:40:39.391 [swr_ship_script] GlobalLog (OOJSGlobal.m:266): Lifeboat_home-3A , , 0
17:40:39.391 [swr_ship_script] GlobalLog (OOJSGlobal.m:266): Lifeboat_cargo-1C , SSG Moray Guard Boat, 4, 1
17:40:39.391 [swr_ship_script] GlobalLog (OOJSGlobal.m:266): Lifeboat_cargo-1C , firearms, 4, 1
17:40:39.391 [swr_ship_script] GlobalLog (OOJSGlobal.m:266): Lifeboat_home-1 , SSG Moray Guard Boat, Dodecahedron Station, Imperial AstroFactory
17:40:39.428 [swr_ship_script] GlobalLog (OOJSGlobal.m:266): Lifeboat_cargo-1B , Moray Medical Boat, 3, narcotics, 3, 1
17:40:39.428 [swr_ship_script] GlobalLog (OOJSGlobal.m:266): Lifeboat_home-3A , , 0
17:40:39.428 [swr_ship_script] GlobalLog (OOJSGlobal.m:266): Lifeboat_cargo-1C , Moray Medical Boat, 4, 1
17:40:39.428 [swr_ship_script] GlobalLog (OOJSGlobal.m:266): Lifeboat_cargo-1C , narcotics, 4, 1
17:40:39.428 [swr_ship_script] GlobalLog (OOJSGlobal.m:266): Lifeboat_home-1 , Moray Medical Boat, Dodecahedron Station, Imperial AstroFactory
17:40:39.463 [swr_ship_script] GlobalLog (OOJSGlobal.m:266): Lifeboat_cargo-1B , SSG Moray Guard Boat, 2, firearms, 2, 1
17:40:39.463 [swr_ship_script] GlobalLog (OOJSGlobal.m:266): Lifeboat_home-3A , , 0
17:40:39.463 [swr_ship_script] GlobalLog (OOJSGlobal.m:266): Lifeboat_cargo-1C , SSG Moray Guard Boat, 3, 1
17:40:39.463 [swr_ship_script] GlobalLog (OOJSGlobal.m:266): Lifeboat_cargo-1C , firearms, 3, 1
17:40:39.463 [swr_ship_script] GlobalLog (OOJSGlobal.m:266): Lifeboat_home-1 , SSG Moray Guard Boat, Dodecahedron Station, Rock Hermit
17:40:39.498 [LogEvents] GlobalLog (OOJSGlobal.m:266): Imperial Freighter 10027 spawned at 376 km
17:40:39.498 [LogEvents] GlobalLog (OOJSGlobal.m:266): Dodecahedron Station 28788 spawned at 422 km
17:40:39.498 [LogEvents] GlobalLog (OOJSGlobal.m:266): Iceteroid 10532 spawned at 21 km
17:40:39.498 [LogEvents] GlobalLog (OOJSGlobal.m:266): Thargoid Warship 18321 spawned at 43 km
17:40:39.498 [LogEvents] GlobalLog (OOJSGlobal.m:266): Iceteroid 2923 spawned at 19 km
17:40:39.498 [LogEvents] GlobalLog (OOJSGlobal.m:266): Iceteroid 3994 spawned at 15 km
17:40:39.498 [LogEvents] GlobalLog (OOJSGlobal.m:266): Asteroid 14661 spawned at 10 km
17:40:39.498 [LogEvents] GlobalLog (OOJSGlobal.m:266): Asteroid 32238 spawned at 19 km
17:40:39.498 [LogEvents] GlobalLog (OOJSGlobal.m:266): Asteroid 24453 spawned at 579 km
17:40:39.498 [LogEvents] GlobalLog (OOJSGlobal.m:266): Rock Hermit 893 spawned at 0 km
17:40:39.498 [LogEvents] GlobalLog (OOJSGlobal.m:266): Iceteroid 16949 spawned at 23 km
17:40:39.498 [LogEvents] GlobalLog (OOJSGlobal.m:266): Asteroid 26558 spawned at 23 km
17:40:39.498 [LogEvents] GlobalLog (OOJSGlobal.m:266): Asteroid 1133 spawned at 18 km
17:40:39.498 [LogEvents] GlobalLog (OOJSGlobal.m:266): Asteroid 7698 spawned at 21 km
17:40:39.498 [LogEvents] GlobalLog (OOJSGlobal.m:266): Iceteroid 24222 spawned at 25 km
17:40:39.498 [LogEvents] GlobalLog (OOJSGlobal.m:266): Iceteroid 13447 spawned at 25 km
17:40:39.498 [LogEvents] GlobalLog (OOJSGlobal.m:266): Imperial Freighter 24685 spawned at 576 km
17:40:39.499 [LogEvents] GlobalLog (OOJSGlobal.m:266): Imperial AstroFactory 21935 spawned at 592 km
17:40:39.499 [LogEvents] GlobalLog (OOJSGlobal.m:266): Asteroid 32169 spawned at 588 km
17:40:39.499 [LogEvents] GlobalLog (OOJSGlobal.m:266): Asteroid 15128 spawned at 573 km
17:40:39.499 [LogEvents] GlobalLog (OOJSGlobal.m:266): Abandoned Rock Hermit: GAL-ID Unit Offline 21428 spawned at 288 km
17:40:39.499 [LogEvents] GlobalLog (OOJSGlobal.m:266): Asteroid 32140 spawned at 272 km
17:40:39.499 [LogEvents] GlobalLog (OOJSGlobal.m:266): Asteroid 11365 spawned at 288 km
17:40:39.499 [LogEvents] GlobalLog (OOJSGlobal.m:266): Asteroid 3761 spawned at 288 km
17:40:39.499 [LogEvents] GlobalLog (OOJSGlobal.m:266): Abandoned Rock Hermit: GAL-ID Unit Offline 21559 spawned at 283 km
17:40:39.499 [LogEvents] GlobalLog (OOJSGlobal.m:266): Iceteroid 17844 spawned at 280 km
17:40:39.499 [LogEvents] GlobalLog (OOJSGlobal.m:266): Iceteroid 24354 spawned at 172 km
17:40:39.499 [LogEvents] GlobalLog (OOJSGlobal.m:266): Iceteroid 12803 spawned at 172 km
17:40:39.499 [LogEvents] GlobalLog (OOJSGlobal.m:266): Iceteroid 10822 spawned at 177 km
17:40:39.499 [LogEvents] GlobalLog (OOJSGlobal.m:266): Iceteroid 2772 spawned at 181 km
17:40:39.499 [LogEvents] GlobalLog (OOJSGlobal.m:266): Iceteroid 27930 spawned at 193 km
17:40:39.499 [LogEvents] GlobalLog (OOJSGlobal.m:266): Iceteroid 4923 spawned at 197 km
17:40:39.499 [LogEvents] GlobalLog (OOJSGlobal.m:266): Iceteroid 20391 spawned at 208 km
17:40:39.499 [LogEvents] GlobalLog (OOJSGlobal.m:266): Iceteroid 29607 spawned at 197 km
17:40:39.499 [LogEvents] GlobalLog (OOJSGlobal.m:266): Iceteroid 18766 spawned at 212 km
17:40:39.499 [LogEvents] GlobalLog (OOJSGlobal.m:266): Iceteroid 4816 spawned at 201 km
17:40:39.499 [LogEvents] GlobalLog (OOJSGlobal.m:266): Iceteroid 14182 spawned at 205 km
17:40:39.499 [LogEvents] GlobalLog (OOJSGlobal.m:266): Asteroid 22352 spawned at 205 km
17:40:39.499 [LogEvents] GlobalLog (OOJSGlobal.m:266): Iceteroid 6855 spawned at 208 km
17:40:39.499 [LogEvents] GlobalLog (OOJSGlobal.m:266): Iceteroid 27834 spawned at 208 km
17:40:39.499 [LogEvents] GlobalLog (OOJSGlobal.m:266): Iceteroid 31453 spawned at 210 km
17:40:39.499 [LogEvents] GlobalLog (OOJSGlobal.m:266): Asteroid 8613 spawned at 212 km
17:40:39.499 [LogEvents] GlobalLog (OOJSGlobal.m:266): Iceteroid 23388 spawned at 224 km
17:40:42.457 [LogEvents] GlobalLog (OOJSGlobal.m:266): gui screen will change from GUI_SCREEN_STATUS to GUI_SCREEN_EQUIP_SHIP
17:40:42.468 [LogEvents] GlobalLog (OOJSGlobal.m:266): gui screen changed from GUI_SCREEN_STATUS to GUI_SCREEN_EQUIP_SHIP
17:40:43.993 [LogEvents] GlobalLog (OOJSGlobal.m:266): gui screen will change from GUI_SCREEN_EQUIP_SHIP to GUI_SCREEN_INTERFACES
17:40:43.993 [LogEvents] GlobalLog (OOJSGlobal.m:266): gui screen changed from GUI_SCREEN_EQUIP_SHIP to GUI_SCREEN_INTERFACES
17:40:46.178 [LogEvents] GlobalLog (OOJSGlobal.m:266): Hognose 16914 spawned at 0 km
17:40:47.243 [LogEvents] GlobalLog (OOJSGlobal.m:266): gui screen will change from GUI_SCREEN_INTERFACES to GUI_SCREEN_STATUS
17:40:47.244 [LogEvents] GlobalLog (OOJSGlobal.m:266): gui screen changed from GUI_SCREEN_INTERFACES to GUI_SCREEN_STATUS
17:40:48.347 [LogEvents] GlobalLog (OOJSGlobal.m:266): gui screen will change from GUI_SCREEN_STATUS to GUI_SCREEN_INTERFACES
17:40:48.348 [LogEvents] GlobalLog (OOJSGlobal.m:266): gui screen changed from GUI_SCREEN_STATUS to GUI_SCREEN_INTERFACES
17:40:54.725 [LogEvents] GlobalLog (OOJSGlobal.m:266): gui screen changed from GUI_SCREEN_INTERFACES to GUI_SCREEN_MAIN
17:40:54.755 [LogEvents] GlobalLog (OOJSGlobal.m:266): will launch from Rock Hermit 893 flying Cobra Mark III 29612
17:40:54.778 [LogEvents] GlobalLog (OOJSGlobal.m:266): system information changed in galaxy 0 system 49 key sun_name to undefined
17:40:54.778 [LogEvents] GlobalLog (OOJSGlobal.m:266): system information changed in galaxy 0 system 49 key sun_name to Malama Stella
17:40:54.779 [LogEvents] GlobalLog (OOJSGlobal.m:266): system information changed in galaxy 0 system 49 key sun_name to Illum Cornutum (Star)
17:40:54.781 [Repair System] GlobalLog (OOJSGlobal.m:266): Launch: Repair System equipment status: EQUIPMENT_OK
17:40:54.783 [Repair System] GlobalLog (OOJSGlobal.m:266): Launch: Repair system Online, no equipment damaged, entering Standby mode
17:40:54.931 [script.load.notFound] +[OOScript jsScriptFromFileNamed:properties:] (OOScript.m:205): ***** ERROR: Could not find script file GalNavXT-ship_script.js.
17:40:54.953 [bigShips_populator] GlobalLog (OOJSGlobal.m:266): 1 big trader(s) added to the Malama system.
17:40:55.139 [VimanaHUD] GlobalLog (OOJSGlobal.m:266): Setting player's crosshairs to green_crosshair_off.plist
17:40:55.202 [LogEvents] GlobalLog (OOJSGlobal.m:266): compass targeted lost target in mode COMPASS_MODE_PLANET
17:40:55.231 [LogEvents] GlobalLog (OOJSGlobal.m:266): alert condition changed from 0 to 2
17:40:55.232 [autopause] GlobalLog (OOJSGlobal.m:266): condition change triggered. newCondition is 2 and primed eq is EQ_TARGETSELECTOR
17:40:55.232 [VimanaHUD] GlobalLog (OOJSGlobal.m:266): Setting player's crosshairs to crosshair_off.plist
17:40:55.317 [LogEvents] GlobalLog (OOJSGlobal.m:266): system information changed in galaxy 0 system 49 key sun_name to undefined
17:40:55.317 [LogEvents] GlobalLog (OOJSGlobal.m:266): system information changed in galaxy 0 system 49 key sun_name to Malama Stella
17:40:55.318 [LogEvents] GlobalLog (OOJSGlobal.m:266): system information changed in galaxy 0 system 49 key sun_name to Illum Cornutum (Star)
17:40:55.337 [LogEvents] GlobalLog (OOJSGlobal.m:266): Imperial Lambda Shuttle T5-T01 28958 spawned at 7 km
17:40:55.337 [LogEvents] GlobalLog (OOJSGlobal.m:266): Saga Class Cruise Ship 24707 spawned at 514 km
17:40:55.789 [LogEvents] GlobalLog (OOJSGlobal.m:266): got message from Imperial Lambda Shuttle T5-T01 28958 : Launch complete, and all systems green. Course set for Imperial AstroFactory: The Horned King.
17:40:56.357 [LogEvents] GlobalLog (OOJSGlobal.m:266): compass targeted Malama I (Capital Planet) undefined in mode COMPASS_MODE_PLANET
17:40:57.502 [LogEvents] GlobalLog (OOJSGlobal.m:266): launched from Rock Hermit 893
17:40:57.518 [LogEvents] GlobalLog (OOJSGlobal.m:266): ship got EQ_TARGETSELECTOR_MODECHANGER
17:41:03.550 [LogEvents] GlobalLog (OOJSGlobal.m:266): targeted Telescope marker 24862 who has -1 energy
17:41:09.496 [script.load.notFound] +[OOScript jsScriptFromFileNamed:properties:] (OOScript.m:205): ***** ERROR: Could not find script file GalNavXT-ship_script.js.
17:41:09.606 [swr_ship_script] GlobalLog (OOJSGlobal.m:266): Lifeboat_home-2-A , Moray Medical Boat: Stainless Steel Hellebore of the Kiwi of Tianve, 300, 453662.356600397
17:41:09.606 [swr_ship_script] GlobalLog (OOJSGlobal.m:266): Lifeboat_home-2-B , false, nullAI.plist, 175980
17:41:09.606 [swr_ship_script] GlobalLog (OOJSGlobal.m:266): Lifeboat_home-2-A , SSG Moray Guard Boat: Avian and Trumble, 160, 664174.3742261827
17:41:09.606 [swr_ship_script] GlobalLog (OOJSGlobal.m:266): Lifeboat_home-2-B , false, nullAI.plist, 659.3226928710938
17:41:09.606 [swr_ship_script] GlobalLog (OOJSGlobal.m:266): Lifeboat_home-2-A , SSG Moray Guard Boat: Chariot of Mayhem, 160, 319260.87779021385
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17:42:09.602 [swr_ship_script] GlobalLog (OOJSGlobal.m:266): Lifeboat_home-2-A , Moray Medical Boat: Stainless Steel Hellebore of the Kiwi of Tianve, 300, 436040.8834102224
17:42:09.602 [swr_ship_script] GlobalLog (OOJSGlobal.m:266): Lifeboat_home-2-B , false, nullAI.plist, 175980
17:42:09.602 [swr_ship_script] GlobalLog (OOJSGlobal.m:266): Lifeboat_home-2-A , SSG Moray Guard Boat: Avian and Trumble, 141.63479614257812, 667867.2340392545
17:42:09.602 [swr_ship_script] GlobalLog (OOJSGlobal.m:266): Lifeboat_home-2-B , false, nullAI.plist, 1093.579345703125
17:42:09.602 [swr_ship_script] GlobalLog (OOJSGlobal.m:266): Lifeboat_home-2-A , SSG Moray Guard Boat: Chariot of Mayhem, 153.81118774414062, 315478.1694928191
17:42:09.602 [swr_ship_script] GlobalLog (OOJSGlobal.m:266): Lifeboat_home-2-B , false, nullAI.plist, 631.73779296875
17:42:25.017 [ils] GlobalLog (OOJSGlobal.m:266): Anaconda: Dora is using ILS to dock on Dodecahedron Station: Fareie Fire
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17:43:09.611 [swr_ship_script] GlobalLog (OOJSGlobal.m:266): Lifeboat_home-2-A , SSG Moray Guard Boat: Avian and Trumble, 308.30279541015625, 665474.2391983216
17:43:09.611 [swr_ship_script] GlobalLog (OOJSGlobal.m:266): Lifeboat_home-2-B , false, nullAI.plist, 920.4623413085938
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17:43:09.611 [swr_ship_script] GlobalLog (OOJSGlobal.m:266): Lifeboat_home-2-B , false, nullAI.plist, 1314.226806640625
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17:43:09.611 [swr_ship_script] GlobalLog (OOJSGlobal.m:266): Lifeboat_home-2-B , false, nullAI.plist, 175980
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17:44:09.610 [swr_ship_script] GlobalLog (OOJSGlobal.m:266): Lifeboat_home-2-A , SSG Moray Guard Boat: Chariot of Mayhem, 99.20704650878906, 316245.78495081916
17:44:09.611 [swr_ship_script] GlobalLog (OOJSGlobal.m:266): Lifeboat_home-2-B , false, nullAI.plist, 810.1994018554688
17:44:09.611 [swr_ship_script] GlobalLog (OOJSGlobal.m:266): Lifeboat_home-2-A , Moray Medical Boat: Stainless Steel Hellebore of the Kiwi of Tianve, 300, 400901.745703451
17:44:09.611 [swr_ship_script] GlobalLog (OOJSGlobal.m:266): Lifeboat_home-2-B , false, nullAI.plist, 175980
17:44:09.611 [swr_ship_script] GlobalLog (OOJSGlobal.m:266): Lifeboat_home-2-A , SSG Moray Guard Boat: Avian and Trumble, 80, 668145.3945894561
17:44:09.611 [swr_ship_script] GlobalLog (OOJSGlobal.m:266): Lifeboat_home-2-B , false, nullAI.plist, 1131.3729248046875
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17:45:09.612 [swr_ship_script] GlobalLog (OOJSGlobal.m:266): Lifeboat_home-2-A , Moray Medical Boat: Stainless Steel Hellebore of the Kiwi of Tianve, 300, 383392.2296435967
17:45:09.612 [swr_ship_script] GlobalLog (OOJSGlobal.m:266): Lifeboat_home-2-B , false, nullAI.plist, 175980
17:45:09.612 [swr_ship_script] GlobalLog (OOJSGlobal.m:266): Lifeboat_home-2-A , SSG Moray Guard Boat: Chariot of Mayhem, 320, 315522.50868120155
17:45:09.613 [swr_ship_script] GlobalLog (OOJSGlobal.m:266): Lifeboat_home-2-B , false, nullAI.plist, 882.8028564453125
17:45:09.613 [swr_ship_script] GlobalLog (OOJSGlobal.m:266): Lifeboat_home-2-A , SSG Moray Guard Boat: Avian and Trumble, 0, 666387.6929675066
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Re: OXPs - Strategic thinking!
Posted: Fri Oct 14, 2022 5:04 pm
An example of an idea I've got knocking around that will be absolutely painful to code...
[Briefing:]
Vice Admiral ____ says:
"Showing the flag" can be very expensive even if Thargoids aren't shooting at us.
Consumable supplies and paid personnel alone is expensive enough, but pales compared to the ships.
While it doesn't typically destroy or significantly damage ships to do this, the time spent is time we can't fight Thargoids elsewhere with these same ships.
The biggest problem is getting all the ships to the destination system at the same time.
Multiple ships have to travel together, with the size of the convoys based on the urgency, danger, and distance from the starting system.
To start the route, the lead ship jumps to a nearby system.
The other ships in the convoy then use the wormhole that creates -- instead of burning their own fuel to jump on their own.
Freighters do this all the time with their non-jump-capable escorts.
After all the ships are through the wormhole, they organize in preparation of making their next jump along the route.
The lead ship is swapped out for another ship that has sufficient fuel and can fight unassisted at least briefly while the rest of the convoy follows through its wormhole to join it.
Then that new lead ship jumps to the next system along the route.
The process continues until the convoy's destination is reached.
This way each jump only consumes the witchspace fuel of 1 ship.
Some extra ships are often included to deal with contingencies, but we are spread much too thin to do this regularly.
Large Navy convoys have crossed entire Galaxy Charts in this manner without ever docking at a station or sun-skimming to refuel.
Only observers near the witchpoint buoys of the systems traveled might see their passage.
Crossing the Great Rift in Galaxy Chart 7 to reach the large cut-off region has for a very long time been an open secret used by large trading corporations, the military, ...and smugglers from what I've heard.
1 ship misjumps halfway between 2 systems at the edge of the Great Rift.
Other ships in the convoy are then able to jump from that interstellar point to a system across the Great Rift.
The bugs seem to have caught on that we're doing this regularly, because we sometimes have to fight a sizable Thargoid warship force at these interstellar locations...and ships have been lost or damaged in these fights, though fortunately not entire military convoys so far.
We'd like to be able to quickly send a smaller force that is less likely attract attention of both the bugs and various system factions that seem out to cause chaos while we're not around.
Ideally, just 1 ship...but until now that was deemed too risky even for our fast Asps.
An independent explorer, initially without funds from us, discovered additional paths across the Great Rift.
The best such paths offer savings for our logistics.
The yearly expeditions to "unreachable" systems using multiple Galactic Hyperdrives has a very high cost -- often via a Behemoth due to its cargo capacity and ability to act as a ship carrier. We cannot afford to send a Behemoth alone, so it may have a small fleet with it.
A partial payoff comes from deliveries of Galactic Hyperdrives at far above normal market prices and transportation of stranded people to the next Galaxy Chart region for a fee.
We even buy up some ships for cheap that we later refurbish and resell.
Oresrati in Galaxy Chart 8 is the worst regular Navy expedition destination due to it lacking even a single nearby trading system.
But that has changed, thanks initially to a rumor that a specially reprogrammed Gal. Hyperdrive is no longer needed to reach it.
A Galactic Navy special operation confirmed It is reachable via a misjump route from nearby systems.
Once there a Gal. Hyperdrive is still needed to LEAVE it.
[END BRIEFING]
...Now, the reason why that's going to be painful to code is the forming-up process after each jump.
Ships can get separated, some even destroyed...have to be extras to handle such contingencies as well as "leave no one behind".
It's slightly easier if the ships are in 1 single-array group, so each can be selected with $ship_group[ship_number] instead of having to fiddle with search-for-nearest ship looping and trying to determine if each ship so found is even part of the loose group.
There's also the problem when more than about 5 ships dog-pile a single wormhole they come out on top of each other on the other side, sometimes comically...sometimes explosively.
[Briefing:]
Vice Admiral ____ says:
"Showing the flag" can be very expensive even if Thargoids aren't shooting at us.
Consumable supplies and paid personnel alone is expensive enough, but pales compared to the ships.
While it doesn't typically destroy or significantly damage ships to do this, the time spent is time we can't fight Thargoids elsewhere with these same ships.
The biggest problem is getting all the ships to the destination system at the same time.
Multiple ships have to travel together, with the size of the convoys based on the urgency, danger, and distance from the starting system.
To start the route, the lead ship jumps to a nearby system.
The other ships in the convoy then use the wormhole that creates -- instead of burning their own fuel to jump on their own.
Freighters do this all the time with their non-jump-capable escorts.
After all the ships are through the wormhole, they organize in preparation of making their next jump along the route.
The lead ship is swapped out for another ship that has sufficient fuel and can fight unassisted at least briefly while the rest of the convoy follows through its wormhole to join it.
Then that new lead ship jumps to the next system along the route.
The process continues until the convoy's destination is reached.
This way each jump only consumes the witchspace fuel of 1 ship.
Some extra ships are often included to deal with contingencies, but we are spread much too thin to do this regularly.
Large Navy convoys have crossed entire Galaxy Charts in this manner without ever docking at a station or sun-skimming to refuel.
Only observers near the witchpoint buoys of the systems traveled might see their passage.
Crossing the Great Rift in Galaxy Chart 7 to reach the large cut-off region has for a very long time been an open secret used by large trading corporations, the military, ...and smugglers from what I've heard.
1 ship misjumps halfway between 2 systems at the edge of the Great Rift.
Other ships in the convoy are then able to jump from that interstellar point to a system across the Great Rift.
The bugs seem to have caught on that we're doing this regularly, because we sometimes have to fight a sizable Thargoid warship force at these interstellar locations...and ships have been lost or damaged in these fights, though fortunately not entire military convoys so far.
We'd like to be able to quickly send a smaller force that is less likely attract attention of both the bugs and various system factions that seem out to cause chaos while we're not around.
Ideally, just 1 ship...but until now that was deemed too risky even for our fast Asps.
An independent explorer, initially without funds from us, discovered additional paths across the Great Rift.
The best such paths offer savings for our logistics.
The yearly expeditions to "unreachable" systems using multiple Galactic Hyperdrives has a very high cost -- often via a Behemoth due to its cargo capacity and ability to act as a ship carrier. We cannot afford to send a Behemoth alone, so it may have a small fleet with it.
A partial payoff comes from deliveries of Galactic Hyperdrives at far above normal market prices and transportation of stranded people to the next Galaxy Chart region for a fee.
We even buy up some ships for cheap that we later refurbish and resell.
Oresrati in Galaxy Chart 8 is the worst regular Navy expedition destination due to it lacking even a single nearby trading system.
But that has changed, thanks initially to a rumor that a specially reprogrammed Gal. Hyperdrive is no longer needed to reach it.
A Galactic Navy special operation confirmed It is reachable via a misjump route from nearby systems.
Once there a Gal. Hyperdrive is still needed to LEAVE it.
[END BRIEFING]
...Now, the reason why that's going to be painful to code is the forming-up process after each jump.
Ships can get separated, some even destroyed...have to be extras to handle such contingencies as well as "leave no one behind".
It's slightly easier if the ships are in 1 single-array group, so each can be selected with $ship_group[ship_number] instead of having to fiddle with search-for-nearest ship looping and trying to determine if each ship so found is even part of the loose group.
There's also the problem when more than about 5 ships dog-pile a single wormhole they come out on top of each other on the other side, sometimes comically...sometimes explosively.
Re: OXPs - Strategic thinking!
Posted: Sat Oct 15, 2022 2:14 am
Not a pain at all, so let's see:Cholmondely wrote: ↑Fri Oct 14, 2022 2:30 pmSorry to be a pain:
- Do I need any other oxp's to be loaded? (Aquatics? Dictators? Church of the Holy Witchspace Guard?)
- Do I need to be at any particular system? (a dictatorship?)
Lots of error messages on my AppleMac (hahaha! Surprised?)
GalNavXT-ship_script.js is part of the Galactic Navy XT and actually could be ignored. Just some effects should be missing when doing so.
Your PNG loading warnings on the other hand baffle me, I am using the exact files for years without any problems, so this seems to be a Mac problem (agaIn).
Let me have a look if I can tinker these textures so that even a Mac accepts them.Re: OXPs - Strategic thinking!
Posted: Sat Oct 15, 2022 7:18 pm
I don't see the ships in the Ship's Library, either...
Re: OXPs - Strategic thinking!
Posted: Sun Oct 16, 2022 2:29 am
You can't, the shiplibrary.plist is a copy from the Holy Witchspace Guard WIP and not adapted to the ships of this OXP. Please keep in mind that the entire package is unfinished and still a WIP. I probably will separate it in 3 – 4 smaller OXP's, like Lambda Hospital, Lamda Traders, Lambda Navy, ...
Re: OXPs - Strategic thinking!
Posted: Fri Oct 21, 2022 5:35 pm
Oh, I thought this poll was "how did you start playing Oolite", but straight away everyone went off on an unrelated tangent talking about Navies and suchlike. So now I'm confused - do I tell you that I found Oolite in 2013 (before E:D, I think), and was immediately hooked and amazed by its immersiveness? I came up for air several months later after bloating 1.80 -- a very nice version --with OXPs and even trying to mod some ships myself.
Having only lurked on this board before, I came back in earnest in 2020 and learned Javascript by osmosis, finally being able to produce the OXPs FE Ships, Elite Trader, Cargo Containers, and the GETter HUD.
Another break (nearly 2 years) and then back I came.
Though I did buy Elite:Dangerous, I have never actually played it, and don't think I ever will.
Edit: BTW, wouldn't it perhaps be a good idea to move this poll to its own separate topic on the BB, changing the title etc, so that it might attract more voters? (I guess only an Admin could do this).
Having only lurked on this board before, I came back in earnest in 2020 and learned Javascript by osmosis, finally being able to produce the OXPs FE Ships, Elite Trader, Cargo Containers, and the GETter HUD.
Another break (nearly 2 years) and then back I came.
Though I did buy Elite:Dangerous, I have never actually played it, and don't think I ever will.
Edit: BTW, wouldn't it perhaps be a good idea to move this poll to its own separate topic on the BB, changing the title etc, so that it might attract more voters? (I guess only an Admin could do this).
Re: OXPs - Strategic thinking!
Posted: Sat Oct 22, 2022 5:51 pm
Well actually, the thread was originally looking at what could be done to help navigate newcomers through a mind-numbing morass of OXP's - and looking at what OXP's could be devised that would really add to the game (sneak a peek at the first page of this thread). The quiz is merely an attempt to provide some context against which to hold the discussion.Reval wrote: ↑Fri Oct 21, 2022 5:35 pmOh, I thought this poll was "how did you start playing Oolite", but straight away everyone went off on an unrelated tangent talking about Navies and suchlike. So now I'm confused - do I tell you that I found Oolite in 2013 (before E:D, I think), and was immediately hooked and amazed by its immersiveness? I came up for air several months later after bloating 1.80 -- a very nice version --with OXPs and even trying to mod some ships myself.
Having only lurked on this board before, I came back in earnest in 2020 and learned Javascript by osmosis, finally being able to produce the OXPs FE Ships, Elite Trader, Cargo Containers, and the GETter HUD.
Another break (nearly 2 years) and then back I came.
Though I did buy Elite:Dangerous, I have never actually played it, and don't think I ever will.
Edit: BTW, wouldn't it perhaps be a good idea to move this poll to its own separate topic on the BB, changing the title etc, so that it might attract more voters? (I guess only an Admin could do this).
So: What, Reval, do you think would be valuable OXPs to add to Oolite? What would you like to be able do in the game which you currently can't - but which would be OXP-able?
But that "bio" of yours is valuable - thank you for taking the time to write it...
Re: OXPs - Strategic thinking!
Posted: Sat Oct 22, 2022 6:29 pm
Thanks much for setting me straight 
It's a sad fact that most of the things I - and I'm sure many others - would like to see in their 'ideal Oolite' are just those that would require modifying the core code. The ability to vary the hyperjump radius in JS, for example, so one's ships could have different ranges a la Frontier/FFE or OXPs to alter the range at will. Would definitely like to make longer single jumps and have an assortment of hyperdrives available with different ranges.
I'd like the ability to look 'long range' at other systems, to determine which ones to exploit as future milk-runs. I mean the ability to view their market prices. Is this already possible in JS? If so, I'd want to try making an OXP that could let you do that.
But on the whole I've been more than satisfied for years with what there is already, and I hardly ever catch myself thinking 'oh if only we had...', because nearly everything one could wish for now is already there in the form of OXPs. That's really quite amazing. I know of very few, if any, other space-centric games that give as much to do and explore, and in so many varied ways, as Oolite. I don't hanker for improved graphics, because the graphics are already superb and immersive. Since I am not--and never have been--into multiplayer, I don't think we need that either.
Freedom is all - and Oolite as we have it now is freedom.
I'll come back to edit this if I think of anything else.
Edit: oh, documentation to include with or within the game, of course. What newcomers really need, I imagine, is a guide, or walkthrough (several different walkthroughs) of what to do step by step after Lave, firstly as a trader. So that should include recommendations of nearby poor Ag/ rich Ind systems, say following Spaceway 1. A deeper explanation of the rationale behind the map icons, IOW. That could be put in an OXP (and probably already has been!)
'Meta-OXPs' are indeed a great idea and, if I can work out how, I shall be putting all my humble efforts into one.
It's a sad fact that most of the things I - and I'm sure many others - would like to see in their 'ideal Oolite' are just those that would require modifying the core code. The ability to vary the hyperjump radius in JS, for example, so one's ships could have different ranges a la Frontier/FFE or OXPs to alter the range at will. Would definitely like to make longer single jumps and have an assortment of hyperdrives available with different ranges.
I'd like the ability to look 'long range' at other systems, to determine which ones to exploit as future milk-runs. I mean the ability to view their market prices. Is this already possible in JS? If so, I'd want to try making an OXP that could let you do that.
But on the whole I've been more than satisfied for years with what there is already, and I hardly ever catch myself thinking 'oh if only we had...', because nearly everything one could wish for now is already there in the form of OXPs. That's really quite amazing. I know of very few, if any, other space-centric games that give as much to do and explore, and in so many varied ways, as Oolite. I don't hanker for improved graphics, because the graphics are already superb and immersive. Since I am not--and never have been--into multiplayer, I don't think we need that either.
Freedom is all - and Oolite as we have it now is freedom.
I'll come back to edit this if I think of anything else.
Edit: oh, documentation to include with or within the game, of course. What newcomers really need, I imagine, is a guide, or walkthrough (several different walkthroughs) of what to do step by step after Lave, firstly as a trader. So that should include recommendations of nearby poor Ag/ rich Ind systems, say following Spaceway 1. A deeper explanation of the rationale behind the map icons, IOW. That could be put in an OXP (and probably already has been!)
'Meta-OXPs' are indeed a great idea and, if I can work out how, I shall be putting all my humble efforts into one.