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Re: Enhance my savegame

Posted: Wed Jul 09, 2025 6:05 am
by Wildeblood
Cholmondely wrote: Tue Jul 08, 2025 4:40 pm
OldThrashbarg wrote: Tue Jul 08, 2025 1:01 pm
It's not a big deal. If the board is being maintained it doesn't matter if the thread with the attatched savedgame-files rests a while, anyone can allways pick it up whenever they want to.
While the list of OXPs is not so long, Oolite Saved Games can now be stonkingly massive - many, many times larger than the original game code for Classic Elite! And far too large to post here on the BB.
Then ask politely if it's ok to store it on the wiki. There's better version control of uploaded files there, anyway.

Your main problem would be getting anyone two around here to agree on a list of suitable OXPs.

Re: Enhance my savegame

Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2025 8:56 pm
by OldThrashbarg
Wildeblood wrote: Wed Jul 09, 2025 6:05 am
Cholmondely wrote: Tue Jul 08, 2025 4:40 pm
OldThrashbarg wrote: Tue Jul 08, 2025 1:01 pm
It's not a big deal. If the board is being maintained it doesn't matter if the thread with the attatched savedgame-files rests a while, anyone can allways pick it up whenever they want to.
While the list of OXPs is not so long, Oolite Saved Games can now be stonkingly massive - many, many times larger than the original game code for Classic Elite! And far too large to post here on the BB.
Then ask politely if it's ok to store it on the wiki. There's better version control of uploaded files there, anyway.

Your main problem would be getting anyone two around here to agree on a list of suitable OXPs.
Would anybody agree on a DosBox ElitePlus Abandonedware Savegame?

Re: Enhance my savegame

Posted: Wed Jul 23, 2025 10:53 pm
by Cholmondely
I understand that I'd need to have an e-mail (which I don't - and don't really want) to get the download.

Otherwise, I'd be happy to give it a twirl. The only thing is... my combat skills are virtually inexistent. So I'd probably murder your Jameson.

Re: Enhance my savegame

Posted: Sun Jul 27, 2025 5:58 am
by OldThrashbarg
Cholmondely wrote: Wed Jul 23, 2025 10:53 pm
I understand that I'd need to have an e-mail (which I don't - and don't really want) to get the download.
wdym? There are lots of ways to transfer saved games, and with proper malware-detection they should be somewhat safe too. Or does it need an e-mail-address on order to acquire abandonedware?
Otherwise, I'd be happy to give it a twirl. The only thing is... my combat skills are virtually inexistent. So I'd probably murder your Jameson.
So you'll be in charge of financial strategy and you'll only get to fly if there's a corporate-state-planet in range :lol:

No srsly, i haven't played any major contemporary games but in my understanding your character can die as long as you saved the game, no?

Re: Enhance my savegame

Posted: Sun Jul 27, 2025 10:42 am
by Wildeblood
No need to go to other websites. You can upload a save-game here or on the wiki. Cholly is just being obtuse (not for the first time).

Start a story thread in Outworlds, write a paragraph of story, "Jameson had graduated top of our class, I hated him. I overheard him say he was heading to Zaonce for his first solo flight, and I resolved to get there before him..."

Do the flight, upload the save-game, wait for someone to add the next chapter. Could take days, could take years. You won't know until you start.

Good luck, Commander!

Re: Enhance my savegame

Posted: Sun Jul 27, 2025 1:45 pm
by Cholmondely
OldThrashbarg wrote: Tue Jul 22, 2025 8:56 pm
Would anybody agree on a DosBox ElitePlus Abandonedware Savegame?
You were spot on - no need for e-mail. I've downloaded it - now I just have to work out how to get DosBox to run it!

Re: Enhance my savegame

Posted: Sun Jul 27, 2025 7:50 pm
by OldThrashbarg
Ok so i see there's a lot going on Chlome and Wild figuring things i'll have to go to work in <7 hours...

i will be digging up elite+ as soon as i get a chance to…

Re: Enhance my savegame

Posted: Sun Jul 27, 2025 8:52 pm
by Cholmondely
OldThrashbarg wrote: Sun Jul 27, 2025 7:50 pm
"Chlome and Wild"
Help? Any chance of translating that into Digebitian for dumb pilots such as yours truly?

Re: Enhance my savegame

Posted: Sun Jul 27, 2025 10:18 pm
by Cholmondely
I'm failing dismally, I'm afraid. I can't get DOSBox to do anything other than tell me that stuff (folders/Elite_Plus) doesn't exist. I tried downloading DOSBox -X which my Mac won't allow to run despite it being Intel/Catalina-compatible.

How do I get DOSBox to play Elite_Plus? (Dropping E_P onto the DB icon does nothing). I have yet to find anything on the web telling me how.

Re: Enhance my savegame

Posted: Tue Jul 29, 2025 6:10 am
by OldThrashbarg
yup dee doodle do

Re: Enhance my savegame

Posted: Tue Jul 29, 2025 6:11 am
by OldThrashbarg
Cholmondely wrote: Sun Jul 27, 2025 10:18 pm
I'm failing dismally, I'm afraid. I can't get DOSBox to do anything other than tell me that stuff (folders/Elite_Plus) doesn't exist. I tried downloading DOSBox -X which my Mac won't allow to run despite it being Intel/Catalina-compatible.

How do I get DOSBox to play Elite_Plus? (Dropping E_P onto the DB icon does nothing). I have yet to find anything on the web telling me how.
https://www.dosbox.com/DOSBoxManual.html

I'll need to set it up too, i haven't played dosbox in a while but it was not that counterintuitive as far as i remember. You'll need to set up some sort of c:\ drive emulation. You'll need to initialize it everytime you start dosbox, so a line in 'autoexec' is handy, where you can adjust other parameters like mixer master (the general sound volume) etc...

When you use apple make sure that you distinguish between '/' and '\', scince the latter one is dos-standard.
Cholmondely wrote: Sun Jul 27, 2025 8:52 pm
OldThrashbarg wrote: Sun Jul 27, 2025 7:50 pm
"Chlome and Wild"
Help? Any chance of translating that into Digebitian for dumb pilots such as yours truly?
Must be a typo but unfortunately i have no idea what my initial intention to say was

Re: Enhance my savegame

Posted: Tue Jul 29, 2025 6:45 am
by OldThrashbarg
P.S.:

There. You type 'mount c: /your/games/folder' or add the line to the autoexec-file in your dosbox-folder. then you do 'cd c:\ELITEP~1\' and launch the exe-file.

Here is my savegame. My first adventure was conveying 2 tons of liquor from Lave to Leesti wich i assumed would be a profit, but, as i allready reckoned some decades ago, it's not that simple. Still i have faith in you that some experienced pilots can forge this into a kickass constrictor hunt one day

Scince the savegame is a file with three lines i will just drop it here:

ELITE Commander FileCOMMANDER 47.2 CreditsÀÍmŠ
]P@P@
]LEESTI 7$ 1ÿD¬ŒLEESTI 7 1ÿD¬ŒD·ö~ØO-THRASH7šèÿÿo


Also PS: no cheating by manipulating the savegame File!

Re: Enhance my savegame

Posted: Tue Jul 29, 2025 12:33 pm
by Cholmondely
OldThrashbarg wrote: Tue Jul 29, 2025 6:45 am
P.S.:

There. You type 'mount c: /your/games/folder' or add the line to the autoexec-file in your dosbox-folder. then you do 'cd c:\ELITEP~1\' and launch the exe-file.

Here is my savegame. My first adventure was conveying 2 tons of liquor from Lave to Leesti wich i assumed would be a profit, but, as i allready reckoned some decades ago, it's not that simple. Still i have faith in you that some experienced pilots can forge this into a kickass constrictor hunt one day

Since the savegame is a file with three lines i will just drop it here:

ELITE Commander FileCOMMANDER 47.2 CreditsÀÍmŠ
]P@P@
]LEESTI 7$ 1ÿD¬ŒLEESTI 7 1ÿD¬ŒD·ö~ØO-THRASH7šèÿÿo


Also PS: no cheating by manipulating the savegame File!
Well! I finally got the game to launch!

BUT!!

I then got this...
Please type in the word at the following location in the Elite+ Novella - 'Imprint':
(Ignore punctuation, chapter numbers and bold type)

Page i37, Paragraph 2, Line 3, Word 2:
Needless to say my copies of Imprint are reformatted from the Elite+ edition... they just have single lines for the 2nd paragraph, and there seems to be nothing on the website giving either an Imprint download or the codeword.

Stumped again!


Any ideas (it is the download from Abandonware)?


Just pressing "esc" enough times fixed that one.



BUT

When I tried loading your Jameson, I was told that the save was corrupted.

I had downloaded it as a clipping, and then changed the ending to .CDR


Next bit of fun and games!

When I tried playing with my own Jameson, I could not hyperspace out of Lave. I'd managed to select Zaonce (I think - the local cluster chart gave me the distance to it). But both "h" and "H" did nothing. Can one hyperspace when one is under attack?

Re: Enhance my savegame

Posted: Tue Jul 29, 2025 9:11 pm
by OldThrashbarg
Cholmondely wrote: Tue Jul 29, 2025 12:33 pm

When I tried loading your Jameson, I was told that the save was corrupted.

I had downloaded it as a clipping, and then changed the ending to .CDR


Next bit of fun and games!

When I tried playing with my own Jameson, I could not hyperspace out of Lave. I'd managed to select Zaonce (I think - the local cluster chart gave me the distance to it). But both "h" and "H" did nothing. Can one hyperspace when one is under attack?
Well i do not suppose it's an md5-hash. The original file was named 'O-THRASH.CDR'. Perhaps re-naming it will help.

Re: Enhance my savegame

Posted: Tue Jul 29, 2025 9:49 pm
by Cholmondely
OldThrashbarg wrote: Tue Jul 29, 2025 9:11 pm
Well i do not suppose it's an md5-hash. The original file was named 'O-THRASH.CDR'. Perhaps re-naming it will help.
Thanks. I'll give it a whirl!

But how do you engage your hyperdrive? Which keyboard button do you press?