don't know if anyone remembers but I had instant crashes when I switched "Full Shaders" on on my system under the "1.73" trunk Oolite (the "Crashy Dregders" test oxp case), then, with later revisions suddenly these crashes vanished - I could switch full shaders on unpunished.
Well, since I upgraded "1.73" to revision 2281, the crashes have returned on my system, exact same instances!
And I had the following in my log before the last crash: "[gnustep]: 2009-08-12 15:13:50.481 oolite[6068] Defaults path 'D:\myoolite/trunk/oolite.app/GNUstep/Defaults' did not exist - created it"
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Last edited by Lestradae on Thu Aug 13, 2009 7:47 am, edited 2 times in total.
Which is very curious, because the only change between 2280 and 2281 is a non-code related change. Which revision did you upgrade from?
Also, I just did a flash-test with the crashy dredger. Again, no problems here and I can see the ships in the shipyard just fine on full shaders.
As for the log message, it is just telling you that since you run the installation for the first time, it created the Defaults folder for storing the preferences file. Nothing to do with the crash (and yes, I tested it just in case).
Which is very curious, because the only change between 2280 and 2281 is a non-code related change. Which revision did you upgrade from?
I think from the region of revision 2275.
OK, I am slowly suspecting my graphics card here. It turned out to be the reason for my dying notebook ...
Card is: GeForce 8600M GT
Driver version: 179.48 DirectX version 10.0
What is the shader nescessity, OpenGL support?
Thanks for your time A_C
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PS: That's what they write on their site ...
NVIDIA® Unified Architecture
•Unified shader architecture
•GigaThread™ technology
•Full support for Microsoft® DirectX® 10
◦Geometry shaders
◦Geometry instancing
◦Streamed output
◦Shader Model 4.0
•Full 128-bit floating point precision through the entire rendering pipeline
NVIDIA Lumenex™ Engine
•16x full screen anti-aliasing
•Transparent multisampling and transparent supersampling
•16x angle independent anisotropic filtering
•128-bit floating point high dynamic-range (HDR) lighting with anti-aliasing
◦32-bit per component floating point texture filtering and blending
•Advanced lossless compression algorithms for color, texture, and z-data
•Support for normal map compression
•Z-cull
•Early-Z
NVIDIA SLI® Technology1
•Patented hardware and software technology allows two GeForce-based graphics cards to run in parallel to scale performance and enhance image quality on today's top titles.
NVIDIA PureVideo® HD Technology 2
•Dedicated on-chip video processor
•High-definition H.264, VC-1, MPEG2 and WMV9 decode acceleration
•Advanced spatial-temporal de-interlacing
•HDCP capable 3
•Noise Reduction
•Edge Enhancement
•Bad Edit Correction
•Inverse telecine (2:2 and 3:2 pull-down correction)
•High-quality scaling
•Video color correction
•Microsoft® Video Mixing Renderer (VMR) support
Advanced Display Functionality
•Dual-link DVI outputs for digital flat panel display resolutions up to 2560x1600
•Dual integrated 400MHz RAMDACs for analog display resolutions up to and including 2048x1536 at 85Hz
•Integrated HDTV encoder provides analog TV-output (Component/Composite/S-Video) up to 1080i/1080p resolution
•NVIDIA nView® multi-display technology capability
•10-bit display processing
Built for Microsoft® Windows Vista™
•Full DirectX 10 support (see above similar comment)
•Dedicated graphics processor powers the new Windows Vista Aero 3D user interface
•VMR-based video architecture
High Speed Interfaces
•Designed for PCI Express® x16
•Designed for high-speed GDDR3 & cost-competitive DDR2 memory
Operating Systems
•Built for Microsoft Windows Vista
•Windows XP/Windows XP 64
•Linux
API Support
•Complete DirectX support, including Microsoft DirectX 10 Shader Model 4.0
•Full OpenGL® support, including OpenGL 2.1
1 - SLI technology available only on select GeForce 8600M notebook GPUs
2 - Feature requires supported video hardware and software. Features may vary by product.
3- Requires other compatible components that are also HDCP capable.
Hopefully you still have the old installer around. Please fall back to that revision and confirm that it works again. Try multiple times and switch revisions backwards and forwards a few times to be sure.
Most games have some sort of paddling-pool-and-water-wings beginning to ease you in: Oolite takes the rather more Darwinian approach of heaving you straight into the ocean, often with a brick or two in your pockets for luck. ~ Disembodied
Used Diziet Sma's older installer, and the game also crashes at Full Shaders setting.
I am now sure of it, as the Griff Cobra shows its starpattern when the full shaders are on and does not when they are not on.
So it has to be the drivers of my probably extreme quality graphics frak card. They were perhaps newly installed because the old very qualitative graphics card killed my laptop and was exchanged ...
So thanks guys, the problem is now confirmed not to stem from Oolite but from the very good card.
I'll go install the latest drivers from the card vendor
