RFC: Fancy classics

Pangloss · Post by **Pangloss** » Tue Mar 03, 2009 3:30 am

Cargopod needs a logo!

Here's a 15-ton configuration.

It also explains why passenger berths take up 5 tons of space... see the red in the middle.

JensAyton · Post by **JensAyton** » Tue Mar 03, 2009 8:46 am

But you can fit six tons in that space.

Sarin · Post by **Sarin** » Tue Mar 03, 2009 8:47 am

Was just about to say the same thing. You could fit one additional container in the middle.

ClymAngus · Post by **ClymAngus** » Tue Mar 03, 2009 10:25 am

SimonB wrote:
Well - following the neolite doctrine, we'd need to imagine that the shape of the model is somehow representative of the way the actual cargo pod looks.

So it could be something that looks roughly similar but fits together a little better? Well how about a house shape?

Pangloss · Post by **Pangloss** » Tue Mar 03, 2009 1:39 pm

Sarin wrote:
Was just about to say the same thing. You could fit one additional container in the middle.

You COULD... but then the Cargopod arms wouldn't be able to get a grip on the cannister in the middle.

And if that was the one you wanted to eject, you can't!

The standard could be cargo storage areas with recessed areas in the floor for the pentagon pods, so the pods are stable when the ship is moving about. And Cargopod's design is the same as their logo. Sure, it's not the most efficient use of space... but have you seen the amount of space in a box of breakfast cereal?!?

Pangloss · Post by **Pangloss** » Tue Mar 03, 2009 1:57 pm

Here's the standard 75 ton configuration with 71 tons in it.

If you have passenger berths, two of the canisters can be moved slightly to the side to allow access to their area (for pilot's use only... the entry is at the bottom of the image. The passengers never actually leave the passenger berth). And there's spare room if you need to store an escape capsule or four (two at the sides, one at the top, and one in the entryway at the bottom).

Ships with 150 tons of space simply have a double decker arrangement with two Cargopod systems.

ClymAngus · Post by **ClymAngus** » Tue Mar 03, 2009 6:00 pm

Pangloss wrote:

Ships with 150 tons of space simply have a double decker arrangement with two Cargopod systems.

I do remember someone at some point doing a 3d render of lots of different ways cargo pods might be able to fit together. I've lost the thread though.

Screet · Post by **Screet** » Tue Mar 03, 2009 8:19 pm

Pangloss wrote:
You COULD... but then the Cargopod arms wouldn't be able to get a grip on the cannister in the middle.

I agree that magnetic arms would not work, but how about air pressure? Wouldn't it be possible to get a grip well enough just by reducing air pressure within the arm once it's attached to the upside of the pod? I'm not sure about that idea as the weight to lift would be one ton...but it would ease things and allow better usage of the space available

Screet

aceshigh · Post by **aceshigh** » Thu Mar 05, 2009 12:03 pm

I wonder why nobody tried recreating the models and textures following the boxart of the Elite Dark Wheel...

I mean, this coverart clearly shows the ships are supposed to be SEXY AND CURVY... and that obviously, the pointy low poly designs was because of cpu limitation.

also, I quite like the clear, whiteish hightech textures of this art... sorta like the space station and the spaceplane on the movie 2001...

Wiki pages · Post by **Thargoid** » Thu Mar 05, 2009 12:06 pm

In part someone did, at least the Cobra paint-job...

aceshigh · Post by **aceshigh** » Thu Mar 05, 2009 2:05 pm

Thargoid wrote:
In part someone did, at least the Cobra paint-job...

looks brighter/whiter in the coverart...

Captain Hesperus · Post by **Captain Hesperus** » Thu Mar 05, 2009 2:19 pm

aceshigh wrote:
Thargoid wrote:
In part someone did, at least the Cobra paint-job...
looks brighter/whiter in the coverart...

That's because the cover art ship is in direct 'sunlight', while the DWCobra is sat in a dock. The colours are almost identical otherwise.

Captain Hesperus

Screet · Post by **Screet** » Thu Mar 05, 2009 4:49 pm

Hi,

I've found a bug I've noticed but not tried to track down for some weeks. Turned out to be easy

The neolite.oxp has an entry for the ballturret. In that entry, it tries to update the common ballturret with

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model = "neo-ball-turret.dat";

This model does not come with the neolite.oxp. As a result, all ships which should have ballturrets cannot be created.

An easy workaround is to remove the whole ballturret-entry from shipdata.plist in neolite.oxp.

Screet

aceshigh · Post by **aceshigh** » Thu Mar 05, 2009 7:05 pm

do anyone knows where I can find the texture of the station hangar? I am using the Gritty Coriolis Station.

It has a bluish weird looking hangar. I opened the texture pack to try to change it, but the texture pack of the Gritty Coriolis station apparently did not have any hangar textures, only the external textures... am I missing something?

ramon · Post by **ramon** » Thu Mar 05, 2009 7:21 pm

aceshigh wrote:
I mean, this coverart clearly shows the ships are supposed to be SEXY AND CURVY... and that obviously, the pointy low poly designs was because of cpu limitation.

This is probably a better picture of the old DWCobra I did:

But you're right it doesn't have the curves the Dark Wheel cover suggests the ships have. I did actually start work on a 'curvy' version, but since Elite has been around for a few years now, the 'blocky' Cobra has kind of become iconic. (I still might come back to the curvy cobra, but at the moment I'm (still) working on my Anaconda and Asp)

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