Crashing again. Getting mad, slowly.

[Lestradae]

OK.

On delivering one of the cargo missions the game crashed when docking at the station.

It seems to have been some kind of RAM overrun again, stderr says virtual memory exhausted and Oolite was using 1.45 GB of RAM at the time.

Again, my specs: Pentium IV, 2GB RAM, NIVIDIA GForce 8600M GT, Vista

Slowly, this is getting frustrating ...

The stderr file (I find no problems in that, except some kind of "guntex.png" can`t be found - don`t know which oxp its from):

2008-02-27 08:47:51.812 oolite.exe[3428] Disallowed time zone name `@tzres.dll,-322'.
2008-02-27 08:47:51.812 oolite.exe[3428] Using time zone with absolute offset 0.
2008-02-27 08:47:51.810 oolite.exe[3428] File NSUserDefaults.m: 562. In [NSUserDefaults +standardUserDefaults] Improper installation: No language locale found
2008-02-27 08:47:51.812 oolite.exe[3428] [unclassified.MyOpenGLView]: initialising SDL
2008-02-27 08:47:52.435 oolite.exe[3428] [unclassified.JoystickHandler]: init: numSticks=0
2008-02-27 08:47:52.439 oolite.exe[3428] [unclassified.MyOpenGLView]: CREATING MODE LIST
2008-02-27 08:47:52.439 oolite.exe[3428] [unclassified.MyOpenGLView]: Unknown architecture, defaulting to 1024x768
2008-02-27 08:47:52.439 oolite.exe[3428] [unclassified.MyOpenGLView]: Added res 1280 x 800
2008-02-27 08:47:52.439 oolite.exe[3428] [unclassified.MyOpenGLView]: Added res 1024 x 768
2008-02-27 08:47:52.439 oolite.exe[3428] [unclassified.MyOpenGLView]: Added res 800 x 600
2008-02-27 08:47:52.440 oolite.exe[3428] [unclassified.MyOpenGLView]: Added res 640 x 480
2008-02-27 08:47:52.440 oolite.exe[3428] [unclassified.MyOpenGLView]: Found mode {Height = 800; RefreshRate = 0; Width = 1280; }
2008-02-27 08:47:54.235 oolite.exe[3428] [unclassified.MyOpenGLView]: drawRect calling initialiseGLWithSize
2008-02-27 08:47:54.235 oolite.exe[3428] [unclassified.MyOpenGLView]: Creating a new surface of 1280 x 800
2008-02-27 08:47:55.026 oolite.exe[3428] [unclassified.MyOpenGLView]: no universe, clearning surface
2008-02-27 08:47:55.061 oolite.exe[3428] [cpuInfo.cpuCount]: 2 processors detected.
2008-02-27 08:47:55.064 oolite.exe[3428] [rendering.opengl.version]: OpenGL renderer version: 2.1.1 ("2.1.1")
Vendor: NVIDIA Corporation
Renderer: GeForce 8600M GT/PCI/SSE2
2008-02-27 08:47:55.064 oolite.exe[3428] [rendering.opengl.extensions]: OpenGL extensions (144):
GL_ARB_color_buffer_float GL_ARB_depth_texture GL_ARB_draw_buffers GL_ARB_fragment_program GL_ARB_fragment_program_shadow GL_ARB_fragment_shader GL_ARB_half_float_pixel GL_ARB_imaging GL_ARB_multisample GL_ARB_multitexture GL_ARB_occlusion_query GL_ARB_pixel_buffer_object GL_ARB_point_parameters GL_ARB_point_sprite GL_ARB_shadow GL_ARB_shader_objects GL_ARB_shading_language_100 GL_ARB_texture_border_clamp GL_ARB_texture_compression GL_ARB_texture_cube_map GL_ARB_texture_env_add GL_ARB_texture_env_combine GL_ARB_texture_env_dot3 GL_ARB_texture_float GL_ARB_texture_mirrored_repeat GL_ARB_texture_non_power_of_two GL_ARB_texture_rectangle GL_ARB_transpose_matrix GL_ARB_vertex_buffer_object GL_ARB_vertex_program GL_ARB_vertex_shader GL_ARB_window_pos GL_ATI_draw_buffers GL_ATI_texture_float GL_ATI_texture_mirror_once GL_S3_s3tc GL_EXT_texture_env_add GL_EXT_abgr GL_EXT_bgra GL_EXT_blend_color GL_EXT_blend_equation_separate GL_EXT_blend_func_separate GL_EXT_blend_minmax GL_EXT_blend_subtract GL_EXT_compiled_vertex_array GL_EXT_Cg_shader GL_EXT_bindable_uniform GL_EXT_depth_bounds_test GL_EXT_draw_buffers2 GL_EXT_draw_instanced GL_EXT_draw_range_elements GL_EXT_fog_coord GL_EXT_framebuffer_blit GL_EXT_framebuffer_multisample GL_EXT_framebuffer_object GL_EXTX_framebuffer_mixed_formats GL_EXT_framebuffer_sRGB GL_EXT_geometry_shader4 GL_EXT_gpu_program_parameters GL_EXT_gpu_shader4 GL_EXT_multi_draw_arrays GL_EXT_packed_depth_stencil GL_EXT_packed_float GL_EXT_packed_pixels GL_EXT_pixel_buffer_object GL_EXT_point_parameters GL_EXT_rescale_normal GL_EXT_secondary_color GL_EXT_separate_specular_color GL_EXT_shadow_funcs GL_EXT_stencil_two_side GL_EXT_stencil_wrap GL_EXT_texture3D GL_EXT_texture_array GL_EXT_texture_buffer_object GL_EXT_texture_compression_latc GL_EXT_texture_compression_rgtc GL_EXT_texture_compression_s3tc GL_EXT_texture_cube_map GL_EXT_texture_edge_clamp GL_EXT_texture_env_combine GL_EXT_texture_env_dot3 GL_EXT_texture_filter_anisotropic GL_EXT_texture_integer GL_EXT_texture_lod GL_EXT_texture_lod_bias GL_EXT_texture_mirror_clamp GL_EXT_texture_object GL_EXT_texture_sRGB GL_EXT_texture_shared_exponent GL_EXT_timer_query GL_EXT_vertex_array GL_IBM_rasterpos_clip GL_IBM_texture_mirrored_repeat GL_KTX_buffer_region GL_NV_blend_square GL_NV_copy_depth_to_color GL_NV_depth_buffer_float GL_NV_depth_clamp GL_NV_fence GL_NV_float_buffer GL_NV_fog_distance GL_NV_fragment_program GL_NV_fragment_program_option GL_NV_fragment_program2 GL_NV_framebuffer_multisample_coverage GL_NV_geometry_shader4 GL_NV_gpu_program4 GL_NV_half_float GL_NV_light_max_exponent GL_NV_multisample_filter_hint GL_NV_occlusion_query GL_NV_packed_depth_stencil GL_NV_parameter_buffer_object GL_NV_pixel_data_range GL_NV_point_sprite GL_NV_primitive_restart GL_NV_register_combiners GL_NV_register_combiners2 GL_NV_texgen_reflection GL_NV_texture_compression_vtc GL_NV_texture_env_combine4 GL_NV_texture_expand_normal GL_NV_texture_rectangle GL_NV_texture_shader GL_NV_texture_shader2 GL_NV_texture_shader3 GL_NV_transform_feedback GL_NV_vertex_array_range GL_NV_vertex_array_range2 GL_NV_vertex_program GL_NV_vertex_program1_1 GL_NV_vertex_program2 GL_NV_vertex_program2_option GL_NV_vertex_program3 GL_NVX_conditional_render GL_SGIS_generate_mipmap GL_SGIS_texture_lod GL_SGIX_depth_texture GL_SGIX_shadow GL_SUN_slice_accum GL_WIN_swap_hint WGL_EXT_swap_control
2008-02-27 08:47:55.228 oolite.exe[3428] [dataCache.found]: Found data cache.
2008-02-27 08:47:55.687 oolite.exe[3428] [searchPaths.dumpAll]: ---> OXP search paths:
(oolite.app/Resources, AddOns, "AddOns/a-wing.oxp", "AddOns/aegidian-special.oxp", AddOns/Anarchies1.0.oxp, AddOns/aphidv2.oxp, AddOns/Assassins.oxp, AddOns/AsteroidStorm.oxp, AddOns/att1.oxp, "AddOns/b-wing.oxp", AddOns/bandersnatch.oxp, AddOns/behemoth.oxp, AddOns/BehemothSpacewar.oxp, AddOns/bioSphere.oxp, AddOns/BlackMonks.oxp, AddOns/black_baron.oxp, AddOns/Cargo_wrecks_teaser.oxp, AddOns/cobra35.oxp, AddOns/cobra3njx.oxp, AddOns/cobraclipperPC.oxp, AddOns/Commies.oxp, AddOns/custsounds.oxp, AddOns/deposed1.3.2.oxp, "AddOns/Dictators v1.2.oxp", AddOns/Diso.oxp, AddOns/dragon.oxp, AddOns/dreams01beta.oxp, AddOns/Dredger.oxp, AddOns/dwcobra3.oxp, AddOns/eagle2.oxp, AddOns/ettBeaconLauncher.oxp, "AddOns/Executive Spaceways v2.2.oxp", AddOns/farstar.oxp, AddOns/farsun.oxp, AddOns/ferdelance_ng.oxp, AddOns/ferdepai.oxp, AddOns/FighterHud.oxp, "AddOns/Freaky Thargoids 3.oxp", "AddOns/FTZ v0.13.oxp", "AddOns/Fuel Tank v2.1.oxp", AddOns/Galactic_Navy.oxp, AddOns/genship.oxp, AddOns/globestations.oxp, AddOns/grass_snake.oxp, AddOns/greekshipset1.oxp, AddOns/griffin2.oxp, AddOns/griff_planetexpress.oxp, AddOns/griff_shady_station.oxp, AddOns/GrittyCoriolis.oxp, AddOns/gwxstations.oxp, AddOns/Herald.oxp, AddOns/hOopyCasino.oxp, AddOns/Hotrods.oxp, AddOns/hyperradio_js.oxp, AddOns/icarus.oxp, AddOns/illicit_unlock_FIX1.56.oxp, AddOns/impcourier.oxp, AddOns/impcourier2.oxp, AddOns/Interceptor.oxp, "AddOns/ionics-1.2.1.oxp", AddOns/isisinterstellar.oxp, AddOns/ixianfreighter.oxp, AddOns/ixianships.oxp, AddOns/jabberwocky.oxp, AddOns/Kestrel.oxp, AddOns/lambda.oxp, AddOns/lane_legal.oxp, AddOns/Lave.oxp, AddOns/liberator.oxp, AddOns/Llama.oxp, AddOns/localhero_1_03_9.oxp, AddOns/longshot.oxp, AddOns/longway.oxp, "AddOns/lovecats 1.1.oxp", AddOns/manta.oxp, AddOns/marett_vol1.oxp, AddOns/Merlin.oxp, "AddOns/military Fiasco 2.1.oxp", "AddOns/Missiles and Bombs v0.4.oxp", AddOns/Missionaries.oxp, AddOns/monument.oxp, AddOns/morrigan.oxp, AddOns/mPakRedux.oxp, AddOns/murgh_Xships.oxp, AddOns/NavyStarships.oxp, AddOns/newships.oxp, AddOns/nuke.oxp, AddOns/nuvipers.oxp, AddOns/oldships.oxp, AddOns/Ore_processor.oxp, AddOns/outrider.oxp, AddOns/PAGroove_coriolis.oxp, AddOns/pelamis.oxp, AddOns/phoenix.oxp, AddOns/piratetraps.oxp, AddOns/Pirate_coves.oxp, AddOns/PTI.oxp, "AddOns/Python Class Cruiser 2.6.oxp", AddOns/racers.oxp, AddOns/RandomHits.oxp, AddOns/renegades.oxp, AddOns/renegade_viper.oxp, AddOns/ringpod.oxp, AddOns/RoC.oxp, AddOns/Rock_Hermit_Locator1.1.oxp, "AddOns/s-ships1.oxp", "AddOns/Saleza v2.oxp", AddOns/seosu.oxp, "AddOns/Shield-tail.oxp", AddOns/shreddies.oxp, AddOns/SIRFYard.oxp, AddOns/snark.oxp, AddOns/spearhead_1.oxp, AddOns/spyhunter.oxp, AddOns/Stingray.oxp, AddOns/Stingray_Mk_II.oxp, AddOns/sunskimmers.oxp, AddOns/supercobra.oxp, AddOns/taranis.oxp, AddOns/tardis.oxp, AddOns/terrapin.oxp, AddOns/tesoura.oxp, AddOns/tgy_dev.oxp, AddOns/thargmissile.oxp, AddOns/thargoidcarrier.oxp, "AddOns/thargoid_wars 4.2.oxp", AddOns/Thorgorn_Threat.oxp, AddOns/tianve.oxp, AddOns/TIE.oxp, AddOns/tiger.oxp, AddOns/tori.oxp, AddOns/transhab.oxp, AddOns/transports.oxp, AddOns/tribant.oxp, AddOns/tugs.oxp, "AddOns/UPS-courier v1.3.5.oxp", "AddOns/UPS-courier(1.70 buxfix).oxp", AddOns/UrutuMKIII.oxp, AddOns/urutu_IV.oxp, AddOns/velocity.oxp, "AddOns/weeviloid2-PC.oxp", AddOns/wolfmk2.oxp, AddOns/wolfwoods_variants.oxp, "AddOns/x-ships.oxp", "AddOns/X-Wing.oxp", "AddOns/y-wing.oxp", AddOns/YOUR_AD_HERE.oxp, AddOns/YOUR_AD_HERE_set_E.oxp, "AddOns/Zz-Oo-Haul.oxp")
2008-02-27 08:47:55.687 oolite.exe[3428] [dataCache.rebuild.explicitFlush]: Cache explicitly flushed with shift key. Rebuilding from scratch.
2008-02-27 08:48:03.942 oolite.exe[3428] [script.load.world.listAll]: Loaded 95 world scripts: "anarchies", "AS-JSversion" 0.9, "assassins", "AsteroidStorm" 3.45, "Bandersnatch", "Behemoth-script01", "behemoth-spacewar", "biosphere_appearance", "black_monks", "blackbaron", "Cargo_test", "casinoship_appearance", "casinoship_revisit", "chaff_exhausted", "chaff_refill", "chaff_set", "chaff_set_variation", "clipperschedule", "communist_population", "deposed", "dictatorship_population", "dredger_appearance", "elite_monument", "ExecutiveFlightSchedule", "farsun" 1.0, "Find_Thargoids", "free-trade-zone", "generation-ship-script01", "hardpirates1", "hardpirates10", "hardpirates11", "hardpirates12", "hardpirates13", "hardpirates14", "hardpirates15", "hardpirates16", "hardpirates17", "hardpirates18", "hardpirates19", "hardpirates2", "hardpirates20", "hardpirates21", "hardpirates22", "hardpirates23", "hardpirates24", "hardpirates3", "hardpirates4", "hardpirates5", "hardpirates6", "hardpirates7", "hardpirates8", "hardpirates9", "hofd", "hoopy_casino", "hyperradio" 1.02, "Interstellar_Action", "ionics_v_rlf", "localhero" 1.03, "long_way_round", "lord-of-the-rings", "military_fiasco", "missionaries", "Navy_Patrol", "newskim", "OO-Haul Escort", "oolite-cloaking-device" 1.70, "oolite-constrictor-hunt" 1.70, "oolite-nova" 1.70, "oolite-thargoid-plans" 1.70, "oolite-trumbles" 1.70, "Pi-Forty-Two Con stores", "PoliceTrap", "Put_Pirate_Coves_where_the_pirates_are", "Random_Hits", "SalezaPatrol", "seccom_station", "Snark", "spy_hunter", "supercobra_placement", "taranis_one", "Test", "thargoid_wars", "Thargorn_Witchspace_Battle", "TigersTurf" 0.51, "transportSchedule" 2.44, "tribant_appearance", "tuggerschedule", "ups_container" 1.3.5, "ups_docs" 1.3.5, "ups_parcel" 1.3.5, "ups_slaves" 1.3.5, "ups_sun" 1.3.5, "ups_versiontest" 0.9, "velocity_test", "wedding"
2008-02-27 08:48:21.930 oolite.exe[3428] [script.debug.onOff]: SCRIPT debug messages ON
2008-02-27 08:48:21.933 oolite.exe[3428] [script.debug.message]: SCRIPT debugMessage: spawning rings for LAVE
2008-02-27 08:48:22.031 oolite.exe[3428] [script.debug.note.addShips]: DEBUG Spawned ship with shipdata key 'ring01'.
2008-02-27 08:48:22.085 oolite.exe[3428] [script.debug.note.addShips]: DEBUG Spawned ship with shipdata key 'ring02'.
2008-02-27 08:48:22.133 oolite.exe[3428] [script.debug.note.addShips]: DEBUG Spawned ship with shipdata key 'ring03'.
2008-02-27 08:48:22.256 oolite.exe[3428] [script.debug.note.addShips]: DEBUG Spawned ship with shipdata key 'ring04'.
2008-02-27 08:48:22.256 oolite.exe[3428] [script.debug.onOff]: SCRIPT debug messages OFF
2008-02-27 08:48:22.329 oolite.exe[3428] [LOCALHERO]: LOCALHERO LOGGING OFF
2008-02-27 08:48:22.735 oolite.exe[3428] [dataCache.willWrite]: About to write data cache.
2008-02-27 08:48:22.915 oolite.exe[3428] [dataCache.write.success]: Wrote data cache.
2008-02-27 08:49:03.829 oolite.exe[3428] [script.debug.onOff]: SCRIPT debug messages ON
2008-02-27 08:49:03.834 oolite.exe[3428] [script.debug.note.addShips]: DEBUG Going to add 1 ships with role 'SIRF-YARD' at a point 1.000 along route1
2008-02-27 08:49:07.650 oolite.exe[3428] [script.debug.onOff]: SCRIPT debug messages OFF
2008-02-27 08:50:32.236 oolite.exe[3428] [script.AsteroidStorm.cleanup]: Asteroid Storm finished, or player in another galaxy. Disabling script.
2008-02-27 08:51:35.727 oolite.exe[3428] [script.debug.onOff]: SCRIPT debug messages ON
2008-02-27 08:51:35.732 oolite.exe[3428] [script.debug.note.addShips]: DEBUG Going to add 1 ships with role 'SIRF-YARD' at a point 1.000 along route1
2008-02-27 08:51:35.992 oolite.exe[3428] [script.debug.onOff]: SCRIPT debug messages OFF
2008-02-27 08:51:44.174 oolite.exe[3428] [files.notFound]: ***** ERROR: Could not find texture file "guntex.png".
2008-02-27 08:51:44.202 oolite.exe[3428] [files.notFound]: ***** ERROR: Could not find texture file "guntex.png".
2008-02-27 08:51:44.227 oolite.exe[3428] [files.notFound]: ***** ERROR: Could not find texture file "guntex.png".
2008-02-27 08:51:55.438 oolite.exe[3428] [script.debug.onOff]: SCRIPT debug messages ON
2008-02-27 08:51:55.444 oolite.exe[3428] [script.debug.note.addShips]: Spawning 1 x 'rockbeacon' near Rock Hermit Buoy Spawner 337
2008-02-27 08:51:55.580 oolite.exe[3428] [script.debug.onOff]: SCRIPT debug messages OFF
2008-02-27 09:03:41.074 oolite.exe[3428] [dataCache.willWrite]: About to write data cache.
2008-02-27 09:03:41.641 oolite.exe[3428] [dataCache.write.success]: Wrote data cache.
2008-02-27 09:03:49.077 oolite.exe[3428] [unclassified.MyOpenGLView]: Found mode {Height = 800; RefreshRate = 0; Width = 1280; }
2008-02-27 09:04:03.537 oolite.exe[3428] [unclassified.MyOpenGLView]: Found mode {Height = 800; RefreshRate = 0; Width = 1280; }
2008-02-27 09:04:37.317 oolite.exe[3428] [unclassified.MyOpenGLView]: Found mode {Height = 800; RefreshRate = 0; Width = 1280; }
2008-02-27 09:10:53.126 oolite.exe[3428] [unclassified.MyOpenGLView]: Found mode {Height = 800; RefreshRate = 0; Width = 1280; }
2008-02-27 09:13:07.567 oolite.exe[3428] [script.debug.onOff]: SCRIPT debug messages ON
2008-02-27 09:13:07.572 oolite.exe[3428] [script.debug.note.addShips]: DEBUG Going to add 1 ships with role 'SIRF-YARD' at a point 1.000 along route1
2008-02-27 09:13:07.841 oolite.exe[3428] [script.debug.onOff]: SCRIPT debug messages OFF
2008-02-27 09:13:26.068 oolite.exe[3428] [script.debug.onOff]: SCRIPT debug messages ON
2008-02-27 09:13:26.073 oolite.exe[3428] [script.debug.note.addShips]: Spawning 1 x 'rockbeacon' near Rock Hermit Buoy Spawner 545
2008-02-27 09:13:26.211 oolite.exe[3428] [script.debug.onOff]: SCRIPT debug messages OFF
2008-02-27 09:14:09.459 oolite.exe[3428] [dataCache.willWrite]: About to write data cache.
2008-02-27 09:14:10.125 oolite.exe[3428] [dataCache.write.success]: Wrote data cache.
2008-02-27 09:15:59.480 oolite.exe[3428] [script.debug.onOff]: SCRIPT debug messages ON
2008-02-27 09:15:59.485 oolite.exe[3428] [script.debug.note.addShips]: DEBUG Going to add 1 ships with role 'SIRF-YARD' at a point 1.000 along route1
2008-02-27 09:15:59.746 oolite.exe[3428] [script.debug.onOff]: SCRIPT debug messages OFF
2008-02-27 09:16:09.631 oolite.exe[3428] [script.debug.onOff]: SCRIPT debug messages ON
2008-02-27 09:16:09.634 oolite.exe[3428] [script.debug.note.addShips]: DEBUG Going to add 1 ships with role 'tugger' at a point 0.300 along route1
2008-02-27 09:16:10.244 oolite.exe[3428] [script.debug.onOff]: SCRIPT debug messages OFF
2008-02-27 09:18:49.337 oolite.exe[3428] [dataCache.willWrite]: About to write data cache.
Virtual memory exhausted

This application has requested the Runtime to terminate it in an unusual way.
Please contact the application's support team for more information.

[Hoopy]

i must say i find that 1.70 with random hits, galactic military and local hero runs out of virtual memory far more quickly than 1.69.1 without any of those OXPs.

No idea where the 'blame' lies...

[Kaks]

Wow, I'm impressed at the amount of stuff you're throwing at oolite!

To find out which oxp is missing guntex.png:

That's what I do with notepad++, it's a 'proper' text editor, and it's free!

Open notepad++, then Search>Find in Files

Find what: guntex.png
Filters: *.dat
Directory: C:\Program Files\Oolite\AddOns

Of course, if oolite is in a different location, change C:\Program Files\Oolite to wherever your oolite is.

After a little while it should find out which dat file is asking for the missing .png
If you don't find it, try changing Filters: to *.*

Even if you can't replace that file, knowing which OXP needs the missing file is a step in the right direction!

Hope this helps,

Kaks

[Lestradae]

extremely helpful.

i must say i find that 1.70 with random hits, galactic military and local hero runs out of virtual memory far more quickly than 1.69.1 without any of those OXPs

Sarcasm. Nice It still doesn`t explain where 1.400.000.000 Bytes (per second!) go. Never ever. Think games like X3 with all mods in or Oblivion with 140 mods in. They run without hiccup on my machine.

Random hits, galactic military and local hero are great and very big oxps, but their routines aren`t even close to, say, Vanilla X3. So no explanation there.

No idea where the 'blame' lies

I hope it`s obvious that this is not about blaming anyone. Oolite is great, and it`s a private endeavour and lots of things can go wrong. I want to find out where the big bugs lie. Which, I guess, is in everyone`s interest here.

I`m not complaining to anyone who is working on Oolite, why should I, and I decided to go bug-hunting as I run everything at once and am destined to find any bug that rears its ugly head. But it gets frustrating slowly.

Any bug found is a bug potentially removed, so.

L

[Lestradae]

Open notepad++, then Search>Find in Files

Find what: guntex.png
Filters: *.dat
Directory: C:\Program Files\Oolite\AddOns

I`ll attempt that and report where the faulty guntex thingy is so that it can be repaired not only in my game ...

Cheers

L

[LittleBear]

I think 1.70 itself has some leaks that Another Commander and Big A are trying to fix for the MNSR. A known leak is on the Short Range Chart for example. I'm not totally sure how memory works on Oolite, but I think a big factor is the number of textures being loaded into memory. Although Random Hits, Local Hero and Matts Navy OXP are big OXPs in terms of scripts they don't actually use that much memoray for textures. Random Hits for example only adds ship (plus some escorts) to a system when a mission is running, so I don't think it will chew up that much memory. The Space Bar is pretty detailed to is chewing up memory, but then again its only one object.

I suspect its just the cumaltive effect of the number of ships from all the OXPs you have installed. You probabley have something like 300 extra textures to load. The game has to load the textures for everything it populates a system with. So (for example) when the game adds (say) 10 pirates if those ten pirates are all OXP ships (likley with every OXP installed as the OXP pirates outnumber the native ones), its ten extra textures to load. Griff has done some stunning models and textures, but obviously these do chew up much more memory than the standard corrolis.

I am not sure its something wrong with any indiviual OXP its the cummulative effect. I've found 1.70 more stable than 1.69, but I play with all the mission and station OXPs in and about 30 ship OXPs. Hopefully memoray leakage will be fixed, but the more OXPs you put in at once the more strain you put on Oolite.

PS: The guntext is a bug from my own Renegade Pirates (typo of the name in shipdata), but I think its harmless. It just means that the laser emmiters on the renegade ships are grey coloured rather than the indented black.

[Lestradae]

PS: The guntext is a bug from my own Renegade Pirates (typo of the name in shipdata), but I think its harmless.

Aha, then ignore my posting in the Expansion Forum where I am searching for a fugitive guntex.

Am I right in assuming that if I create a "guntex.png" in the Renegades folder the bug will be squashed?

I think 1.70 itself has some leaks that Another Commander and Big A are trying to fix for the MNSR.

I hope that they will be successful. Oolite is continuing to grow and I think will attract more and more people and they will try to play with everything in - so that memory overrun, I prophecy will become more and more of a problem.

And many people will play Random Hits, Local Hero and Matts Navy OXP together in the future, they are not yet exactly bug-free.

On with the hunt,

L

[LittleBear]

The texture is present in the Textures folder, it just has the wrong name due to a typo. If you rename it to guntex.png then it should be OK.

[Lestradae]

done!

[Hoopy]

i wasn't necessarily blaming any of those OXPs - I'm saying that I changed 4 things (version of Oolite and added 3 OXPs) and now I have more crashes. It's just a data point...

I suspect that LittleBear is right and that the problem is a memory leak in 1.70. For example I've noticed that it leaks 6Meg a second when you're on the short range chart.

[Lestradae]

I'm saying that I changed 4 things (version of Oolite and added 3 OXPs) and now I have more crashes. It's just a data point...

I have tried putting everything oxp in one by one and looked when and if something didn`t work and viewed the stderr file afterwards. Anything that cropped up I reported here (and still do). I assume that bugs will be in 1.70 or in any of the oxps. If I can exclude oxps at some point (and I think I`m nearly there) it has to be 1.70. And I do this - even if I start grating on some nerves - because 1) this will improve my game and 2) if it works with aaaaaalltheoxps in on my system, that means I have found a stable configuration, and others can profit from that.

So, that`s why I`m so obsessive nowadays. Behold my brandnew signature.

For example I've noticed that it leaks 6Meg a second when you're on the short range chart.

Wow, that`s bad. Does it also happen with the Galactic Chart? And, do you know if it gets worse when just watching the Short range chart, or does it happen when changing screens back and forth?

Because, my game usually uses (in the aaalloxps-state) about 550 MB RAM. When one of those crashes comes, this goes up to 1.400 MB RAM. That would be 120 times the short range chart?! Could that be the culprit?

Still

L

[Hoopy]

it happens when just sitting on the screen doing nothing. It's fixed in the development source so we'll get that in 1.71.

If you want to see for yourself (you're on windows aren't you?) then go and download 'process explorer' (google will find it, it's a microsoft thing). It's like task manager but much more powerful.

Right click on the column headings so you can add 'private bytes' as a column to be displayed.

Then find the row corresponding to Oolite and watch the number goup. (You may want to add 'private bytes delta' as well to see the change per second).