Universal external views ?

PsychotropicDog · Post by **PsychotropicDog** » Wed Jul 11, 2007 7:27 pm

Forgive me if this has been said before, but a cursory search showed if it had it was not recent.

Since I am currently trying to tweak a custom view, it occured to me, why does each ship need it's own listing of a custom view?

Would it be possible to have one custom view array available for ALL ships, thus reducing the number of times it is cut and pasted into a shipdata.plist, and theoretically reducing the load on the CPU ?

Or even have two - one for larger ships.

Thus if anyone wanted to alter their custom views, the changes would apply to all ships they pilot.

Commander McLane · Post by **Commander McLane** » Wed Jul 11, 2007 8:03 pm

In externalviews.oxp (available on Oosat 2) there are four different arrays for different shipsizes. Two wouldn't be enough, as ships vary quite a lot in sizes. And for sure you wouldn't have an Adder appear very small on the screen, whereas you would see only fractions of your Anaconda.

So, see it just as a nice possibility for customizing. Anyway, there are also the internal viewpositions and the weapons positions defined for each and every ship.

Besides, I don't think a hard-coded view would reduce the load on the CPU much.

And of course you're welcome to use one of the arrays in externalviews.oxp for your own ship. I'm quite sure one of them fits for your purpose. And there is no need at all to re-invent the wheel in this community.

Wiggy · Post by **Wiggy** » Thu Jul 12, 2007 10:21 am

Commander McLane wrote:
And there is no need at all to re-invent the wheel in this community.

Damn. There goes my wheel-inventing project. <Puts down chisel>

PsychotropicDog · Post by **PsychotropicDog** » Thu Jul 12, 2007 4:41 pm

hmm, what was I thinking?

I really like the views of the Drake, including the scoop cam, but I found I actually have an easier time with the normal interior view when trying to scoop stuff up.

Don't worry, give it time and I will come up with another idea for a different wheel.

Helvellyn · Post by **Helvellyn** » Thu Jul 12, 2007 6:00 pm

Wiggy wrote:
Commander McLane wrote:
And there is no need at all to re-invent the wheel in this community.
Damn. There goes my wheel-inventing project. <Puts down chisel>

And your graphic-borrowing (avatar)... I don't mind much, but I wish people would ask. Mind you, since I removed contact details from the site years ago it's probably not unexpected that people don't, and it's not as if I have any claim on the original design.

Commander McLane · Post by **Commander McLane** » Thu Jul 12, 2007 9:57 pm

Helvellyn wrote:
Wiggy wrote:
Commander McLane wrote:
And there is no need at all to re-invent the wheel in this community.
Damn. There goes my wheel-inventing project. <Puts down chisel>
And your graphic-borrowing (avatar)... I don't mind much, but I wish people would ask. Mind you, since I removed contact details from the site years ago it's probably not unexpected that people don't, and it's not as if I have any claim on the original design.

???

Wiggy · Post by **Wiggy** » Fri Jul 13, 2007 11:14 am

Helvellyn wrote:
And your graphic-borrowing (avatar)... I don't mind much, but I wish people would ask. Mind you, since I removed contact details from the site years ago it's probably not unexpected that people don't, and it's not as if I have any claim on the original design.

I wasn't aware that anyone had used the original Elite graphic as an avatar image on this site before. If I had been, I wouldn't have used it. (I joined in Jan 2005.)

But if you don't have any claim to the design, what exactly should I be asking?

I'm reasonably confident that I didn't get the graphic from you. Unless you are Ian Bell or David Braben, of course.

Helvellyn · Post by **Helvellyn** » Sat Jul 14, 2007 3:26 pm

Wiggy wrote:
Helvellyn wrote:
And your graphic-borrowing (avatar)... I don't mind much, but I wish people would ask. Mind you, since I removed contact details from the site years ago it's probably not unexpected that people don't, and it's not as if I have any claim on the original design.
I wasn't aware that anyone had used the original Elite graphic as an avatar image on this site before. If I had been, I wouldn't have used it. (I joined in Jan 2005.)

But if you don't have any claim to the design, what exactly should I be asking?

I'm reasonably confident that I didn't get the graphic from you. Unless you are Ian Bell or David Braben, of course.

I don't have claim to the original design, of course, because I didn't design the box and manual and so on for the original game, but that particular version of it looks very much like a shrunk down to avatar size version of one of the one I drew and have on my site.

I did a shrunk version for an avatar, http://elite.acornarcade.com/ims/smlogo.gif , which looks a bit better (better shrinking), but it may be a bit small for you.