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Arexack_Heretic · Post by **Arexack_Heretic** » Tue May 29, 2007 11:59 pm

I forgot for whom he's lugging stuff about now, it used to be a theatre in Norway...I think.

and yes.
Ahruman is currently revamping oolite rather a bit.
Most notably for us OXPers the lingua franka has stopped being plist and is now javascript.
It will allow near unlimited acces to the fundamental code of oolite, but most of us still have to wait till someone with the skill gives us some reference codes, which we can pick appart (retroengineer/autodidact) .

JensAyton · Post by **JensAyton** » Wed May 30, 2007 6:16 am

lex_talionis wrote:
I've run across a prob - you know that in aegidian's 'how to texture stuff you numpty' tutorial that he's got on the Oolite frontpage, he tells you to export the textures as a .png? Well, if I export mine, they come out as .bmp. Is this a problem?

It is. The next version of Oolite will only handle PNG textures.

To clarify, or at least rehash, Arexack_Heretic’s advice: the way to convert to PNG textures is:

Export your model as OBJ, generating foo.obj and foo.mtl files.
Convert the textures themselves. (GraphicConverter is a good choice here; it provides good compression and doesn’t add a bunch of unnecessary junk to the file. If you can be bothered, follow up with PNGCrusher for even better compression.)
Open foo.mtl in TextEdit. Search for “.bmp” and replace with “.png” (assuming you’ve converted texture bar.bmp to bar.png, etc).

As for the postage stamp issue, it’s likely that whatever you’re converting with is adding a “physical resolution chunk” to the PNG, specifying that it’s at, say, 300 ppi instead of the default 72 ppi. This doesn’t matter; Oolite will ignore it.

lex_talionis · Post by **lex_talionis** » Wed May 30, 2007 1:06 pm

Cool - cheers for that Ahruman.

The only really problem with the size of the png file is that it's really hard to edit at that size! I'l work on it when the alcohol has worn off.

Just had my exam, and I'm drunkish by 2pm - good style!

Vajo · Post by **Vajo** » Wed May 30, 2007 5:32 pm

lex_talionis wrote:

Just had my exam, and I'm drunkish by 2pm - good style!

I hope not to much

JensAyton · Post by **JensAyton** » Wed May 30, 2007 9:01 pm

lex_talionis wrote:
The only really problem with the size of the png file is that it's really hard to edit at that size! I'l work on it when the alcohol has worn off.

Zoom in? :-) If this makes it blocky, your conversion is in fact damaging the image. Which shouldn’t happen when converting BMP to PNG, but you never know.

Captain Hesperus · Post by **Captain Hesperus** » Wed May 30, 2007 10:21 pm

Vajo wrote:
lex_talionis wrote:

Just had my exam, and I'm drunkish by 2pm - good style!

I hope not to much

It's a student thing. Most of us 'career students' can hold (and excrete) our own body weight in alcoholic beverages on a single night's (and a single term's bursary/grant/loan) debauch!

Captain Hesperus
"Barman, give me four pints of what that guy passed out under the table was drinking!"

Cmdr. Maegil · Post by **Cmdr. Maegil** » Wed May 30, 2007 10:49 pm

Pints?! Humpf, make that liters!

Bloody Yanks!

lex_talionis · Post by **lex_talionis** » Wed May 30, 2007 11:49 pm

What? Pints is a British thing!

Cmdr. Maegil · Post by **Cmdr. Maegil** » Thu May 31, 2007 1:06 am

I thought that the Brits had joined the EU some time ago and ditched their anachronic measuring system in exchange for a civilized one!

I might be wrong, though. What's written in the books might not relate to hard reality...

Arexack_Heretic · Post by **Arexack_Heretic** » Thu May 31, 2007 6:11 am

That is true.
A shopkeeper caught selling stuff in illegal measures can get fined.
I heard.

drink glasses are a cultural thing though, you can get pints in any expat pub in Europe.

TGHC · Post by **TGHC** » Thu May 31, 2007 7:38 am

Arexack_Heretic wrote:
That is true.
A shopkeeper caught selling stuff in illegal measures can get fined.
I heard.

That has just been revoked, common sense has prevailed and we can still use the good old imperial measures.

And as far as pint glasses are concerned we have never had anything else, the only issue has been that glasses should be slightly oversized to allow for froth and therefore a "full" pint of liquid, and not a short measure.

Captain Hesperus · Post by **Captain Hesperus** » Thu May 31, 2007 8:17 am

TGHC wrote:
And as far as pint glasses are concerned we have never had anything else, the only issue has been that glasses should be slightly oversized to allow for froth and therefore a "full" pint of liquid, and not a short measure.

Yes! God save the Nonic pint glass!!

Captain Hesperus

Cmdr. Maegil · Post by **Cmdr. Maegil** » Thu May 31, 2007 9:54 am

Captain Hesperus wrote:
Yes! God save the Nonic pint glass!!

Nonic pint?! What worth can the pint have when users from different countries can't agree on how much beer goes in it? I've wikied on this and only got more confused, so I decided that any glass over 300mL is good enough for me, hear, hear!

But please, PLEASE get rid of the Imperial spanners!

TGHC · Post by **TGHC** » Thu May 31, 2007 10:38 am

Cmdr. Maegil wrote:
I decided that any glass over 300mL is good enough for me

Now that's the right attitude, and not only that, who says it has to be a glass, as long as plenty of alcohol is consumed (but not tooo much) who cares.

Captain Hesperus · Post by **Captain Hesperus** » Thu May 31, 2007 1:31 pm

TGHC wrote:
some stuff and....as long as plenty of alcohol is consumed (public health warning) who cares.

But your own body weight in real ale can't really be toooo much alcohol?!?!?!

Captain Hesperus
"cracking open a bottle right <clink> now."