Still can't see the difference.Cody wrote: ↑Wed Oct 06, 2021 6:11 pmThat should work fine. I'm reliably informed it could also be in ashipdata-overrides.plist
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"oolite_template_cobra3" = { "sun_glare_filter" = 0.9; };
the sun is too bright
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Two questions: which ship are you flying? If not a Cobra III, you'd need to change that; and have you done a shift-restart?
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Re: the sun is too bright
Boa CC and Cobra 3.
I don't know why the glow of the sun is related to the ships. It's weird.
I don't know why the glow of the sun is related to the ships. It's weird.
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It's not. But the suggested tweak is being applied to a particular ship, so if your ship data key is different to the one in the example, the tweak won't be applied and you won't see any difference in game.
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It doesn't work anyway. Unless I'm doing something wrong.
Now I hate this "special effect" even more.
This is unnecessarily complicated. There should be some normal option if you don't want to remove this effect.
Now I hate this "special effect" even more.
This is unnecessarily complicated. There should be some normal option if you don't want to remove this effect.
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Have you installed the Glare Clarifier OXZ? That removes the sun glare completely on a global level.
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It's better, but only from a distance.phkb wrote: ↑Thu Oct 07, 2021 12:20 amHave you installed the Glare Clarifier OXZ? That removes the sun glare completely on a global level.
So someone broke the game so bad that even the mods aren't helping.
As a reminder, older and much nicer photos:
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But is the second old photograph realistic? If one is looking through a glass cockpit window, no. If one is looking through a viewscreen, possibly, if the view has been modified. But also possibly not:3DH wrote: ↑Thu Oct 07, 2021 11:49 amIt's better, but only from a distance.phkb wrote: ↑Thu Oct 07, 2021 12:20 amHave you installed the Glare Clarifier OXZ? That removes the sun glare completely on a global level.
So someone broke the game so bad that even the mods aren't helping.
As a reminder, older and much nicer photos:
What does the "border" between star and space actually signify? It is not a physical border, surely? Just as a bonfire does not have a stable physical border...
Note: I presume that the new look for the sun came in with v.1.80 back in 2014:
• New look for the sun, including improved corona and a glare effect
• Early 2014 discussion on the matter - see this and the next few posts
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This is a simple game, not a simulator. A game that should be fun, not frustrating. This effect is frustrating and doesn't look realsitic.
PS. This is what the sun looks like in Elite Dangerous Horizons:
Nice, right? In addition, you can see everything, not just a white screen.
PS. This is what the sun looks like in Elite Dangerous Horizons:
Nice, right? In addition, you can see everything, not just a white screen.
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Fair point.3DH wrote: ↑Thu Oct 07, 2021 1:19 pmThis is a simple game, not a simulator. A game that should be fun, not frustrating. This effect is frustrating and doesn't look realistic.
PS. This is what the sun looks like in Elite Dangerous Horizons:
Nice, right? In addition, you can see everything, not just a white screen.
If I wanted everything to be extremely realistic, I'd be playing a different game.
On the other hand, if everything is too unrealistic, I start having problems (eg with Reval's Goods Containers). But, glories of this game, I can oxp away almost all of what I dislike... and also ignore the oxp's which I dislike, too!
While I'm happy with the new-look sun myself, I do accept what you say about it. I wonder if there is an oxp which sorts it out. Sun Gear doesn't, but maybe one of these does? I suspect not, sadly. And I wonder if it is oxp-able back to the original version?
And I wonder how many other people have complained about this.
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It makes the most sense to add an option to enable/disable this effect. Then everyone will be happy. If this is too hard, why not add a new global variable in your config files? So that you can easily turn it on or off.
Cholmondely wrote: ↑Thu Oct 07, 2021 1:44 pmAnd I wonder how many other people have complained about this.
This guy doesn't like the effect either
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Re: the sun is too bright
OK, try this: NoFlare.oxz. In combination with Glare Clarifier, you should get rid of most of the glare/flare effects you've highlighted.
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It doesn't work.phkb wrote: ↑Fri Oct 08, 2021 1:04 amOK, try this: NoFlare.oxz. In combination with Glare Clarifier, you should get rid of most of the glare/flare effects you've highlighted.
I've already had enough. Maybe in some update they will fix it.
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I've had exactly the same with my interpretation of Cody's suggestion and with Phkb's oxp (even when I removed everything else from both AddOns folders and tried them separately and together). That's on an AppleMac.3DH wrote: ↑Fri Oct 08, 2021 11:08 amIt doesn't work.phkb wrote: ↑Fri Oct 08, 2021 1:04 amOK, try this: NoFlare.oxz. In combination with Glare Clarifier, you should get rid of most of the glare/flare effects you've highlighted.
I've already had enough. Maybe in some update they will fix it.
But the older limited-use Glare Filter OXZ did work a month ago.
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•Missing OXPs? What do you think is missing?
•Lore: The economics of ship building How many built for Aronar?
•Lore: The Space Traders Flight Training Manual: Cowell & MgRath Do you agree with Redspear?
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I haven't checked this add-on because I don't want to install the extension package manager. I am happy to check it if someone adds a link to this add-on.Cholmondely wrote: ↑Fri Oct 08, 2021 12:11 pmBut the older limited-use Glare Filter OXZ did work a month ago.