having played Oolite for a while I finally made it to the Imperial Star Destroyer. (admitted, I also played with the save games)
It is a really nice ship and I enjoy having the size so usually I do not get attacked by pirates - and if I get involved in combat there is a huge fleet of fighters with me.
However that ship's size is also a problem. It seems I can neither dock in stations, fuel stations, asteroid/pirate hideouts or anywhere. When I tried to perform planetary landing the ship crashed again. That means no trading, no refuel, no repairs, no missions.
So how is the ship actually handled? How am I intended to perform trading or just repairing the ship? How can I release the fighters, or more importantly call them back? Do I have to trade the ship for something else when I have a chance?
By the way, one presumes you have to refuel with fuel scoops, yes? Although if you don't have them already ...
The fuel itself is not really the problem. Yes, I can fuel scoop, and I have this fuel generator which consumes enough power to drain the shields.
But there is so much more that you need the station for. One important part is the game saving...
There is supposed to be a shuttle for docking with stations. Not sure exactly what triggers it, try targeting the station maybe?
The screenshots on the Imperial Destroyer’s wiki page show the lambda shuttle. Its wiki page says it is broken on current versions of Oolite (paraphrased from the known issues section). I’m afraid this renders the imperial destroyer useless.
I just managed to dock into a coriolis station. Not authorized, and I was lucky not to scratch the walls with a ship that size.
On a dodecahedron station such attempts were lethal several times.
Maybe it is station dependent? But then I'd like to know before trying...
Edit: The icosahedron station also seemed to work. Hmmmm.....
Last edited by hiran on Fri Mar 26, 2021 10:16 pm, edited 1 time in total.
There is supposed to be a shuttle for docking with stations. Not sure exactly what triggers it, try targeting the station maybe?
I also read something about the docking shuttle - although I have not seen where it should come from. Also I have plenty of tie fighters and viper escorts but I would'nt even know how to choose them for docking.
I did fly this ship for a while and shift + c indeed sent a shuttle and simulated a docking. With Lambda Freighters/Liners I used parts of this code, and it is working, However, as much as I recall there were some problems with the fighters, not sure what exactly, but I could find out again.
The screenshots on the Imperial Destroyer’s wiki page show the lambda shuttle. Its wiki page says it is broken on current versions of Oolite (paraphrased from the known issues section). I’m afraid this renders the imperial destroyer useless.
Norby is using his own version of the shuttle, its independent from the Star Wars Ships.
Scars remind us where we've been. They don't have to dictate where we're going.
I just tried targeting the station ('r') while piloting a Star Destroyer and saw a shuttle launching from my Destroyer. I waited a bit and observed it docking with the station, at which point the game presented me with the docking tunnel sequence and I was in and able to use all station menus normally. Seems like it's working fine, To be on the safe side, just don't switch targets while the shuttle is in flight.
I just tried targeting the station ('r') while piloting a Star Destroyer and saw a shuttle launching from my Destroyer. I waited a bit and observed it docking with the station, at which point the game presented me with the docking tunnel sequence and I was in and able to use all station menus normally. Seems like it's working fine, To be on the safe side, just don't switch targets while the shuttle is in flight.
When I point the ship to the station and press 'r', I get the message
Ident system set to Coriolis Station.
ILS set to Coriolis Station
Auto roll will be active before the dock
I do not see any shuttle launching. And the messages do not hint that a shuttle might be sent. It all just sounds like I should do the docking myself. Pressing 'c' or 'shift-c' behave as I mentioned above - the Coriolis Station does not want me to dock, hence there are no docking instructions or other navigation help. All I could do so far is try my luck with unauthorized docking.
It sounds odd to me that my setup behaves differently than you or others describe. What could be the reason? Is there anything we can investigate?
E.g. I have an Ubuntu 18 machine with german keyboard. Is the OS an issue? Could it be that the keys I press are not exctly the ones expected? Is there a plugin I have or have not installed that could cause the situation?
Things we can do to troubleshoot:
1. Check your Latest.log file for any unusual messages or errors originating from the ISD scripts.
2. Empty your OXP folder and have only ISD installed. Is the issue still there?
3. Which version of the OXP are you actually using? I did all the above with version 1.6, downloaded from the wiki page link, not the expansion manager.
4. Do you have a legal record in the game? Maybe the station does not let you in because you are fugitive or something like that'?
I forgot to mention earlier that when I target the station with 'r', the message "Your Shuttle is going to Coriolis Station" appears together with the shuttle itself. So the OXP clearly tells you what is happening. I also think that being on Ubuntu or on a German keyboard are not relevant with the issue.
for 1) Latest.log:
I found this file in ~/.Oolite/Logs/Latest.log
So I loaded the commander where I have the Imperial Star Destroyer, launched from the station to fly to the navigation boy, then turn around and try to dock again. Docking means I press 'r' to select the station, then 'L' to ask for permission and finally 'c' or 'C' to make the ship dock. It failed with the above described effects. So far everything is repeatable. Here is the excerpt from the log:
22:54:25.222 [LogEvents]: will launch from Icosahedron Station 13798 flying Imperial Star Destroyer 5886
22:54:25.238 [Repair System]: Launch: Repair System equipment status: EQUIPMENT_OK
22:54:25.239 [Repair System]: Launch: Repair system Online, no equipment damaged, entering Standby mode
22:54:25.316 [bigShips_populator]: 3 big trader(s) added to the Zaonce system.
22:54:25.369 [LogEvents]: compass targeted lost target in mode COMPASS_MODE_PLANET
22:54:25.400 [LogEvents]: alert condition changed from 0 to 2
22:54:25.501 [LogEvents]: Python Leader 8838 spawned at 4 km
22:54:25.501 [LogEvents]: Transporter Leader 23069 spawned at 12 km
22:54:25.501 [LogEvents]: Transporter 13398 from Transporter Leader 23069 spawned at 12 km
22:54:25.501 [LogEvents]: Transporter 4508 from Transporter Leader 23069 spawned at 12 km
22:54:25.501 [LogEvents]: Transporter 26189 from Transporter Leader 23069 spawned at 12 km
22:54:25.501 [LogEvents]: Transporter 16219 from Transporter Leader 23069 spawned at 12 km
22:54:25.501 [LogEvents]: Transporter 3597 from Transporter Leader 23069 spawned at 12 km
22:54:25.501 [LogEvents]: Transporter 17507 from Transporter Leader 23069 spawned at 12 km
22:54:25.501 [LogEvents]: Star Destroyer 14725 spawned at 73 km
22:54:25.501 [LogEvents]: Emerald Class Liner 28399 spawned at 125 km
22:54:25.501 [LogEvents]: Fuel Station 484 spawned at 176 km
22:54:25.501 [LogEvents]: Constitution Class Heavy Cruiser 29948 spawned at 247 km
22:54:25.501 [LogEvents]: Fuel Station 14926 spawned at 368 km
22:54:25.769 [LogEvents]: got message from Transporter Leader 23069 : Cleared the launch corridor now. Course set.
22:54:25.852 [LogEvents]: got message from Transporter 26189 : Now this is my sort of trip.
22:54:26.502 [LogEvents]: compass targeted Zaonce Prime undefined in mode COMPASS_MODE_PLANET
22:54:27.736 [LogEvents]: launched from Icosahedron Station 13798
22:54:27.737 [LogEvents]: got message from lost target : Zaonce Traffic Control: Bon voyage Commander Jameson. Please clear the approach lane as soon as possible.
22:54:27.774 [compass target autoswitch]: Starting.
22:54:27.774 [LogEvents]: ship got EQ_TARGETSELECTOR_MODECHANGER
22:54:27.839 [LogEvents]: targeted Navigation Buoy 5578 who has 250 energy
22:54:27.924 [LogEvents]: Ophidian Escort 20248 spawned at 1 km
22:54:27.924 [LogEvents]: Ophidian Escort 1581 spawned at 1 km
22:54:27.924 [LogEvents]: Ophidian Escort 6273 spawned at 1 km
22:54:27.924 [LogEvents]: Ophidian Escort 31056 spawned at 1 km
22:54:27.924 [LogEvents]: Ophidian Escort 4936 spawned at 1 km
22:54:27.924 [LogEvents]: Ophidian Escort 5554 spawned at 1 km
22:54:29.276 [telescope]: should never happen anymore!!!!!! co > cl: 40 > 39
22:54:42.744 [LogEvents]: got message from lost target : Zaonce Traffic Control: Please clear the docking area!
22:54:57.791 [LogEvents]: got message from lost target : Government - Corporate State.
22:54:57.791 [LogEvents]: got message from lost target : Tech level - 12.
22:54:57.792 [LogEvents]: got message from lost target : Economy - Average Industrial.
22:54:57.792 [LogEvents]: got message from lost target : This system has a strong police presence.
22:54:57.797 [LogEvents]: got message from lost target : Zaonce Traffic Control: Please clear the docking area!
22:55:05.954 [LogEvents]: Shuttle 1815 spawned at 71 km
22:55:12.756 [LogEvents]: got message from lost target : Zaonce Traffic Control: Please clear the docking area!
22:55:27.753 [LogEvents]: got message from lost target : Zaonce Traffic Control: Please clear the docking area!
22:55:27.754 [LogEvents]: got message from lost target : Government - Corporate State.
22:55:27.754 [LogEvents]: got message from lost target : Tech level - 12.
22:55:27.754 [LogEvents]: got message from lost target : Economy - Average Industrial.
22:55:27.755 [LogEvents]: got message from lost target : This system has a strong police presence.
22:55:33.458 [LogEvents]: weapons systems toggled to 0
22:55:33.458 [LogEvents]: ship got EQ_POWER_TO_ENGINES
22:55:33.534 [LogEvents]: targeted Icosahedron Station 13798 who has 25000 energy
22:55:41.133 [LogEvents]: lost lock on Icosahedron Station 13798
Things we can do to troubleshoot:
1. Check your Latest.log file for any unusual messages or errors originating from the ISD scripts.
2. Empty your OXP folder and have only ISD installed. Is the issue still there?
3. Which version of the OXP are you actually using? I did all the above with version 1.6, downloaded from the wiki page link, not the expansion manager.
4. Do you have a legal record in the game? Maybe the station does not let you in because you are fugitive or something like that'?
I forgot to mention earlier that when I target the station with 'r', the message "Your Shuttle is going to Coriolis Station" appears together with the shuttle itself. So the OXP clearly tells you what is happening. I also think that being on Ubuntu or on a German keyboard are not relevant with the issue.
For 2)
I should probably answer the other questions before deleting the OXPs...
But what is ISD? And how do I identify them?
For 3)
Confirmed, I used the expansion manager and it installed version 1.6.
For 4)
My legal status is clean, the rank is mostly harmless. I am anything but good at fighting. That's where I enjoy the escort and fighter options.
I should probably answer the other questions before deleting the OXPs...
No need to delete them, just move them elsewhere (temporarily).
Well, I think I need to learn a bit about Oolite now. How do I move the OXP/OXZ/ISDs elsewhere? Is every plugin one file or folder? If yes, where? Somehow I cannot find the Star Destroyer in my filesystem although it should exist somehwere.
