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Stuck at Estiri

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Made it to deadly but seriously stuck in Assassins Guild with, of course, The Supergrass Bi Xea'Nu whacking. I've been at it for 2 weeks, at least an hour every night. I have tried everything my 68 year old brain can come up with. ( laughter, I can hear snickering..you little creeps..) But at any rate this is getting to be like Super Mario or Candy Crunch or some other mindless task instead of a freewheeling, pirate killing, fast action, independent motive, greed and slaughter quest.

I do not like to jump thru hoops, I hate hoops, they smell bad and get fur on the rugs.

Need help; Rot 13 is fine. I just have to figure out how to get back to my own posting..lol

By the way, an Amiga veteran of Elite.. You kids have done a wonderful and much longed for job on this beautiful concept of a game..God Bless,
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EmperorPenguin wrote:
You kids have done a wonderful and much longed for job on this beautiful concept of a game..
<snorts> Kids? Hah! Welcome aboard, old man - from an old BBC Elite veteran!
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One of the things to remember as an assassin is the only thing that matters is the taking out of the mark. How that is done matters little.

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Fatleaf seems to like good ale and rich food, I intend to provide such should he ever visit, provide in abundance. !!
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FatLeaf; I will try suggestion, Poor poor pitiful me. I will relate results. 11pm thursday and 2 chess moves pending befor I get to the REAL game..
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Sharp Shooter; thank you for the welcome as well as the help from lifers ; .Good buddies ,help in times of need, English beer and Las vegas women ; what could go wrong?
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EmperorPenguin wrote:
Fatleaf seems to like good ale and rich food, I intend to provide such should he ever visit, provide in abundance. !!
Looks a nice location East Aurora, I might just take you up on that if there is plenty of Beer and Food!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :D

Las Vegas women? Eerrmmm............ She sounds expensive. I'm too much of a cheap ass Scotsman :mrgreen:

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Re: Stuck at Estiri

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Thanks for the advice, Tried it, but it is still too much trial and error for my taste. OOLITE is a game where the player is in control, not the game controlling the player; that is why it is so beautiful. There are other missions where the hoops are not so small and the hurdles are not almost impossibly high. Games are supposed to be fun, not work. AG wiped from my add ons. I do NOT rcecommend this oxp to anyone except the diehard closet gamer.
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Well don't judge it too harshly yet as with the current version the ships are harder and more deadly than they were before. Also the mission was designed when there was the energy bomb and assumed that you had one for each hit. Might be good to wait for the next version when things will be toned down a little. Alternatively just for this one you might want to install (just for this once to move the story along) Killit. Then once you have killed the mark uninstall it. I know it is cheating a bit but take the viewpoint that the mission is unfairly balanced at present beyond the intentions of the writer, which is an accurate statement.

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Fatleaf wrote:
Well don't judge it too harshly yet as with the current version the ships are harder and more deadly than they were before. ...
I've been noticing that! I'm going to have to change some of my tactics - but probably for the best. :mrgreen:
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Re: Stuck at Estiri

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Well, in a fit of temper, plus other libations last night, I dumped AG. But now you overly gracious gentlemen come to my assistance with very wise and practiced tactics. It is a good thing that I back up my saves to the desktop..lol. BEAR and ISA; I will persist, thanks for your advice !

Driving a CADDY-O with everything on it except an 8 track. Slightly modified speed. Well, perhaps a bit more than "slightly". Got it cheap too; my brother in law works at the dealership. I'm not gonna live forever so a good deal is a fast deal.

BIG RULE: Never touch the laser temp, never adjust the jump range. All that and I still am a dufus.

Is Elite Dangerous playable as single player? Graphics are outstanding.

PS probably won't do KILLIT.. I may adjust my caddy's speed but omnipotence is a bit scary.


Feb 26 th.. tried all advice..still hacking away at this mission 7-8 times a night. I even hired 2 hired escorts. They did very well for a long while, kept up with my speed and whacked about 6 or 7 of the robot fighters before they met their demise. Still, when I went full speed towards the mark and beyond, the laser fire was withering, aft shields gone in seconds ( Naval shields) . Q bombs inert, Ebomb discharged at the base; ineffective. The mark follows but to keep him in range is to die under the 8,000 degree hate heat lasers of the robots. I'll give it 2 more sessions and if I don't nail it I will seriously consider that online course in interior decorating that is on Utube.

Or I could cheat..I don't know squat about complimentary colors.
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