Spinning Fer-de-Lance [fixed]

[Cody]

I was having a duel with a Ferdie, and it was trying to circle me so I hove-to - and so did the Ferdie. It just sat there in my sights - spinning round its long axis, and only came to life when I applied a little thrust. It's not the first time I've seen odd behaviour from bandits when I'm hove-to. Trunk nightly r5695.

[cim]

Strange. Had you bothered to target them? What sort of range was this at? Any OXPs which might increase accuracy above the core defaults?

[Cody]

It was one of two bandits - I had a missile locked-onto each. Range to the Ferdie (a Griff) was 0.568km (so not quite filling the reticle). There was a problem like this years ago - if you hove-to, the bandit wouldn't press the attack. As regards OXPs - only Skilled NPCs would affect that, I'd think (I'll list them if needed).

[cim]

That's probably enough to be going on with - I'll look into it.

[JazHaz]

It was one of two bandits - I had a missile locked-onto each. Range to the Ferdie (a Griff) was 0.568km (so not quite filling the reticle). There was a problem like this years ago - if you hove-to, the bandit wouldn't press the attack. As regards OXPs - only Skilled NPCs would affect that, I'd think (I'll list them if needed).

I'd ask what the debug console showed when you'd inspect it, what AI was running etc. Except I don't know what command to give it to get that info.

[Cody]

I'd ask what the debug console showed when you'd inspect it, what AI was running etc.

I'd ask what is the debug console? I don't use none of that stuff - I'm a dumb pilot!

[JazHaz]

I'd ask what the debug console showed when you'd inspect it, what AI was running etc.

I'd ask what is the debug console? I don't use none of that stuff - I'm a dumb pilot!

Oh ok. You've just been here for so long, that I thought you'd use it. You're almost part of the furniture!

[Cody]

You're almost part of the furniture!

Yeah, I'm an occasional table - though what I am the rest of the time has perplexed me for years!

[Norby]

I'd ask what is the debug console?

Install [wiki]Debug_OXP[/wiki] and run OoDebugConsole (works with trunk builds only).

[Cody]

<grins>

[JazHaz]

OoDebugConsole (works with trunk builds only).

My Debug Console works fine on 1.77.

[Norby]

My Debug Console works fine on 1.77.

I am using Linux and get "Waiting for connection..." only with 1.77 but connects instantly with 1.77.1.

[Thargoid]

Do you get any warning about incompatibility with debug OXP when you start up the 1.77 game (in logs and on the spinning cobbie screen)?

Debug OXP is usually set to have a max and min game version level as it does tend to change as trunk set-up does, but I'm not sure offhand if that's only major revisions or also more minor ones. But I know the debug oxp for git-trunk (1.79) doesn't work with 1.77 as it tells me so (and it's a bit of a pain as I have to remember to swap over, as both versions share the same add-on folder).

[cim]

Found it: certain code to prevent overuse of injectors was setting speed to target speed rather than maximum non-injector speed. It only affects high-accuracy opponents who also have injectors, and only particularly seriously when at a dead stop, which is why it doesn't happen all the time.

Debug Console: it should work with any non-deployment build. The nightly builds are non-deployment, but there is also a non-deployment build available of 1.77 (it's just not the one most obviously available for download)

[Cody]

Found it: certain code to prevent overuse of injectors was setting speed to target speed rather than maximum non-injector speed. It only affects high-accuracy opponents who also have injectors, and only particularly seriously when at a dead stop, which is why it doesn't happen all the time.

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