more annoying newbie questions

[benjie]

hi there,

i stumbled across oolite a couple of days before, liked it (surprise!) and now i'm facing some questions:

.) the ANA i purchased is just not working. the keyconfig.plist indicates "^" for its use, but i hit "^" (in chart view) and nothing happens. i tried to change the key, but no effect. changing other keys did work, but not this one. might this be a mac thing? anything known about this issue?

.) is it true that no joysticks are supported in MacOS? Neither analog nor digital? (if yes, how could that happen? if no, is there a list of products that reportedly do work?)

thank you for your patience,
benjie

[Disembodied]

Hi Benjie, welcome to the friendliest board this side of Riedquat! (TM, patent pending) Not sure about number 2, but for number 1, just to check:

a) what version of Oolite are you using?

b) are you pressing ^, or are you pressing 6 – i.e. are you holding down SHIFT?

Edit: it's not looking good for Mac joystick support at present ...

Edit again: although Nubo (same thread as above) reported the ability to map keyboard controls onto a joystick using Gamepad Companion.

[another_commander]

benjie: Have you actually bought the ANA equipment? It does not work on the default Jameson/Mk3/100Cr configuration, you need to pay 2500Cr to get it.
(Note to self: learn to read first, then post)

This is quite unusual and I think it's the first time we have a report like this for Mac. Can you post Latest.log after having started the game with Shift pressed? Have you tried to edit keyconfig.plist at any point?

Regarding joysticks, this thread contains some useful information. But bottomline is no, there is no native joystick support on the Mac.

[goran]

I'm not a coder and i don't know what is the problem with Oolite and joysticks on Mac. When compiling VICE, mac joystick support is added via external HID utilities and library.

[benjie]

Can you post Latest.log after having started the game with Shift pressed? Have you tried to edit keyconfig.plist at any point?

I did try to change settings in keyconfig.plist, and successfully for other keys, but ANA never worked, no matter which key it was assigned to.

And sorry, I cannot post "latest.log" for I have no idea what it is or where to find it - but i will try if you give me a hint where to search (but keep in mind i'm noob not only to oolite, but to computers in general).

thx
benjie

[another_commander]

And sorry, I cannot post "latest.log" for I have no idea what it is or where to find it - but i will try if you give me a hint where to search (but keep in mind i'm noob not only to oolite, but to computers in general).

For Mac OS X look here: ~/Library/Logs/Oolite/Latest.log (that is, in your home folder, open the folder named Library, then Logs, then Oolite).

[Diziet Sma]

Just a thought that occurred to me.. you are trying to use the ANA on the F6-F6 Long Range Chart, aren't you? It won't have any effect on the F6 Short Range Chart.

[benjie]

i successfully identified the log file (small step for mankind, big step for myself, though). so if you think this is a developer's issue, should i send it to anybody (mail, PM)? or find some webspace to post it? (there is no option to use an attachment in this forum, right?)

and yes, we're talking about the long range chart here

[DaddyHoggy]

i successfully identified the log file (small step for mankind, big step for myself, though). so if you think this is a developer's issue, should i send it to anybody (mail, PM)? or find some webspace to post it? (there is no option to use an attachment in this forum, right?)

and yes, we're talking about the long range chart here

The best way to post a log here is to copy from your Mac text editor and paste it into a post here on the forum (inside the [ code] [ /code] or [ quote] [ /quote] tags you see appearing as buttons along the top the window just where you're typing your posts)

[benjie]

so here's the log file:

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[log.header]: Opening log for Oolite version 1.73.4 (x86-32 test release) under Mac OS X Version 10.6.2 (Build 10C540) at 2010-02-05 11:59:00 +0100.
Machine type: MacBook5,2, 2048 MiB memory, 2 x x86 (Penryn) @ 2130 MHz.
Oolite Options: [Docking Clearance] [Wormhole Scanner] [Target Incoming Missiles]

Note that the contents of the log file can be adjusted by editing logcontrol.plist.

[rendering.opengl.version]: OpenGL renderer version: 2.1.0 ("2.1 NVIDIA-1.6.6")
Vendor: NVIDIA Corporation
Renderer: NVIDIA GeForce 9400M OpenGL Engine
[rendering.opengl.extensions]: OpenGL extensions (112):
GL_ARB_transpose_matrix GL_ARB_vertex_program GL_ARB_vertex_blend GL_ARB_window_pos GL_ARB_shader_objects GL_ARB_vertex_shader GL_ARB_shading_language_100 GL_EXT_multi_draw_arrays GL_EXT_clip_volume_hint GL_EXT_rescale_normal GL_EXT_draw_range_elements GL_EXT_fog_coord GL_EXT_gpu_program_parameters GL_EXT_geometry_shader4 GL_EXT_transform_feedback GL_APPLE_client_storage GL_APPLE_specular_vector GL_APPLE_transform_hint GL_APPLE_packed_pixels GL_APPLE_fence GL_APPLE_vertex_array_object GL_APPLE_vertex_program_evaluators GL_APPLE_element_array GL_APPLE_flush_render GL_APPLE_aux_depth_stencil GL_NV_texgen_reflection GL_NV_light_max_exponent GL_IBM_rasterpos_clip GL_SGIS_generate_mipmap GL_ARB_imaging GL_ARB_point_parameters GL_ARB_texture_env_crossbar GL_ARB_texture_border_clamp GL_ARB_multitexture GL_ARB_texture_env_add GL_ARB_texture_cube_map GL_ARB_texture_env_dot3 GL_ARB_multisample GL_ARB_texture_env_combine GL_ARB_texture_compression GL_ARB_texture_mirrored_repeat GL_ARB_shadow GL_ARB_depth_texture GL_ARB_fragment_program GL_ARB_fragment_program_shadow GL_ARB_fragment_shader GL_ARB_occlusion_query GL_ARB_point_sprite GL_ARB_texture_non_power_of_two GL_ARB_vertex_buffer_object GL_ARB_pixel_buffer_object GL_ARB_draw_buffers GL_ARB_shader_texture_lod GL_ARB_color_buffer_float GL_ARB_half_float_vertex GL_EXT_compiled_vertex_array GL_EXT_draw_buffers2 GL_EXT_framebuffer_object GL_EXT_framebuffer_blit GL_EXT_framebuffer_multisample GL_EXT_texture_rectangle GL_ARB_texture_rectangle GL_EXT_texture_env_add GL_EXT_blend_color GL_EXT_blend_minmax GL_EXT_blend_subtract GL_EXT_texture_lod_bias GL_EXT_abgr GL_EXT_bgra GL_EXT_stencil_wrap GL_EXT_texture_filter_anisotropic GL_EXT_secondary_color GL_EXT_blend_func_separate GL_EXT_shadow_funcs GL_EXT_stencil_two_side GL_EXT_depth_bounds_test GL_EXT_texture_compression_s3tc GL_EXT_texture_compression_dxt1 GL_EXT_texture_sRGB GL_EXT_blend_equation_separate GL_EXT_texture_mirror_clamp GL_EXT_packed_depth_stencil GL_EXT_bindable_uniform GL_EXT_texture_integer GL_EXT_gpu_shader4 GL_EXT_framebuffer_sRGB GL_APPLE_flush_buffer_range GL_APPLE_ycbcr_422 GL_APPLE_rgb_422 GL_APPLE_vertex_array_range GL_APPLE_texture_range GL_APPLE_float_pixels GL_ATI_texture_float GL_ARB_texture_float GL_ARB_half_float_pixel GL_APPLE_pixel_buffer GL_APPLE_object_purgeable GL_NV_point_sprite GL_NV_blend_square GL_NV_fog_distance GL_NV_depth_clamp GL_NV_multisample_filter_hint GL_NV_fragment_program_option GL_NV_fragment_program2 GL_NV_vertex_program2_option GL_NV_vertex_program3 GL_ATI_texture_mirror_once GL_ATI_texture_env_combine3 GL_ATI_separate_stencil GL_SGIS_texture_edge_clamp GL_SGIS_texture_lod 
[searchPaths.dumpAll]: ---> OXP search paths:
(
    "/Users/BT/Downloads/Oolite (v1.73.4)/Oolite/Oolite.app/Contents/Resources",
    "/Users/BT/Downloads/Oolite (v1.73.4)/Oolite/AddOns",
    "/Users/BT/.Oolite/AddOns",
    "/Users/BT/Library/Application Support/Oolite/AddOns"
)
[dataCache.rebuild.explicitFlush]: Cache explicitly flushed with shift key. Rebuilding from scratch.
[shipData.load.begin]: Loading ship data...
[script.load.world.listAll]: Loaded 5 world scripts: "oolite-cloaking-device" 1.73.4, "oolite-constrictor-hunt" 1.73.4, "oolite-nova" 1.73.4, "oolite-thargoid-plans" 1.73.4, "oolite-trumbles" 1.73.4
[dataCache.willWrite]: About to write data cache.
[dataCache.write.success]: Wrote data cache.
 

i hope you can figure something out from this,
thx benjie

[Commander McLane]

The log doesn't report any problem at all.

Can you tell us on what kind of keyboard you are playing? In many countries there is no key for "\", so the ANA would use another key.

[benjie]

so, more confusion. meanwhile, oolite completely ignores the keyconfig.plist, (no, i did not rename it, nor move it, nor mess around with it. especially the funny brackets at the beginning and end of the list are still there.) i think i should reinstall the whole stuff, but then, how do i save my game status? (i read there was a file somewhere inside the oolite package, but could not find it yet ...)

suggestions?

thx benjie

ps. i'm playing on a macbook, and i've been trying numerous key assignments for this (ANA). none of them worked, neither in plain text nor in ascii code. other changes did work without any problems until recently.

[Cmdr James]

save games should be in ~/oolite-saves or at least thats where mine are and I dont think I ever moved them. They shouldnt be impacted by removing or reinstalling oolite.

Where is the keyconfig.plist you are editing, and where oolite is installed to?

[JazHaz]

so, more confusion. meanwhile, oolite completely ignores the keyconfig.plist, (no, i did not rename it, nor move it, nor mess around with...)

What program have you been editting the keyconfig file with? Some programs mess up the file so that Oolite can't open it.

I'm not up on the Mac, but on Windows the standard Notepad buggers it up quite often.

You can get another copy of the original keyconfig.plist file here.

[benjie]

i made the changes with the apple textedit app. as i mentioned before, it worked fine for some time and i was able to made the changes i wanted to. then the ANA came in and from this point on, less and less worked, and now all the changes are without effect, allthough they are still in he file and the file is were it should be (config folder).

well, i have no problem with that as i feel that computers are driven by magic or anything similar, i just want it to work

my plan: copy the savegamges (name of the commander.oolite-save) elsewhere and reinstall the whole thing. objections anyone?

but i dont expect the ANA to work then, which IS annoying.

benjie