UPDATED Old Ships2010 v.2.5. Better Pricing!

pagroove · Post by **pagroove** » Fri Apr 30, 2010 3:59 pm

P.A. Groove Oldships2010 V2.5.oxp

Concept and Idea: P.A. Groove
New textures: P.A. Groove
Texture alterations: ADCK
Normal Maps & Effects maps: ADCK
Original Models: Murgh
Altered Models: ADCK
Shader Files: Simon B
Hosting and altering: Lestradae

Download Link

http://www.box.net/shared/bt8i5z2o9l

based on the original Oldships.oxp by Murgh

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Version History
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V2.5. (update)

Prices altered as they where to high:

Now the Monitors can be good starting ships. While they are slow they offer a lot of Cargo space. So you have now a low priced entry into the large hauler market.

Ship Price

Bushmaster Miner : 10.000 Cr
Cat: 24.000 Cr
Chameleon Player: 20.000 Cr
Ghavial 22.000 Cr
Iguana 28.000 Cr
Monitor 19.500 Cr
Monitor 2 23.000 Cr
Ophidian 1 14.000 Cr
Ophidian 2 14.000 Cr
Salamander 20.000 Cr

V2.0. Shader version.
Textures altered by ADCK, Normal/Specular/Illumination maps added.
Models altered to use new UV Map.
Ship entries altered by ADCK to remove conflicts.

V1.5.

Better Textures. Baked in Lights removed

V.1.0.

Original version.

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Description
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Adds new textures to Murgh's Oldsips.oxp. These do not overwrite the original or Simon B's neolite versions.
Original OXP available here:

http://wiki.alioth.net/index.php/Old_Ships

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Ship List
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-Bushmaster
-Cat
-Chameleon
-Ghavial (2 versions)
-Iguana
-Monitor
-Monitor2 (new variant with altered skin and statistics by P.A. Groove)
-Ophidian Class Yacht (2 versions)
-Salamander

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Installation
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Remove any previous installations of "PA Grooves Old Ships" before installation.
Extract the PAG_oldships_v2.oxp into your Addons directory of Oolite. Just to be sure startup Oolite with the SHIFT-key pressed until you see the spinning CobraMKIII.

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Licence
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This work is licensed under the Creative Commons Attribution-Noncommercial-Share Alike 3.0 Unported License.
To view a copy of this license, visit http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-sa/3.0/ or send a letter
to Creative Commons, 171 Second Street, Suite 300, San Francisco, California, 94105, USA.

Example images:

The monitor 2

Chameleon

pagroove · Post by **pagroove** » Fri Apr 30, 2010 4:02 pm

As A bonus I addes The Monitor 2. A modernized version of the Monitor Classic. With a little more speed, pitch and roll.

JensAyton · Post by **JensAyton** » Fri Apr 30, 2010 4:09 pm

To quote myself from earlier today:

Ahruman wrote:
It’s a bad idea to put documentation inside an OXP. Mac users will not see it, and other users are likely not to look.

Also (he says, continuing his habit of finding the negative side of everything), it’s a pity you’re using baked-in lighting effects, given that separate lighting maps have been easy to use on systems with shader support for the past two years and will work on most non-shader systems in 1.74.

Post by **Micha** » Fri Apr 30, 2010 4:26 pm

The new skins look great (*)! Good work.

(*) Although, personally I'm not that keen on hull lighting (whether baked in or not) - what's the point?! (unless you have someone doing an EVA). If it's to make the models more visible in the blackness of space, just increase the brightness of the whole model.. I'm quite fond of bright-ish ships so I can appreciate them without having to crash into them.
This does not, of course, refer to lights spilling out from portholes or cabins or similar.

Lastly, (personal request) would it be possible to add an Info.plist? I'm in the process of making a (very basic and simple) OXP manager which will be able to read & extract data from an Info.plist. Will make it nice and consistent to view version numbers, OXP name, etc. As far as I can tell, this is something standard on a Mac anyway.
2010.05.03 - After some discussion we will probably use a different file for this. Striking this out in case other scripters feel the need to add metadata to their OXPs. More information as soon as we finalise the base requirements.

snork · Post by **snork** » Fri Apr 30, 2010 5:25 pm

Micha wrote:
(*) Although, personally I'm not that keen on hull lighting (whether baked in or not) - what's the point?!

I am not sure if I got this right - but I think (wether baked in or not) it is this that makes the ships better visible when running Oolite without shaders.
So I do not have to approach to say 5 km distance before I can aim (and shoot) them.

pagroove, those look nice.

What happened to the bushmaster ? I liked that a lot, from your screenshot. Or is it just not an "old ship" and will go separately ?

Post by **Cmdr James** » Fri Apr 30, 2010 5:51 pm

i think the point was that ingame in makes little sense to have lights fitted externally, but that you can get the same effect by having windows or other light sources.

Alternativly a reason could be thought up such as to help detection of asteroids and cargo pods, or perhaps for docking etc.

Lestradae · Post by **Lestradae** » Fri Apr 30, 2010 6:31 pm

Very nice new colour-y ship set, I like it

JazHaz · Post by **JazHaz** » Fri Apr 30, 2010 7:03 pm

snork wrote:
What happened to the bushmaster ? I liked that a lot, from your screenshot. Or is it just not an "old ship" and will go separately ?

I believe it is included. Just not on the collage.

pagroove · Post by **pagroove** » Fri Apr 30, 2010 7:09 pm

Lestradae pointed out that the OXP is still using some elements from the OLD OLDShips.oxp so atm they are not compatible. I'll look into that for a v 1.1.

Pluisje · Post by **Pluisje** » Fri Apr 30, 2010 7:38 pm

Ahruman wrote:
It’s a bad idea to put documentation inside an OXP. Mac users will not see it, and other users are likely not to look.

Actually, I would prefer it if we put the documents in twice, once inside the OXP and once on the "outside". That way when I install the OXP, I read the readme, but after installation I don't have all documents in a separate dir somewhere I can't remember. But I can access it in the OXP by means of the "show contents" function.

@ pagroove: The ships look great, I'm downloading now.

JazHaz · Post by **JazHaz** » Fri Apr 30, 2010 8:50 pm

The OXP is now on the wiki: http://wiki.alioth.net/index.php/Old_Ships_2010

EDIT: Have added images of these ships to the Custom Paintjobs sections of the ship pages.

pagroove · Post by **pagroove** » Fri Apr 30, 2010 9:09 pm

JazHaz wrote:
The OXP is now on the wiki: http://wiki.alioth.net/index.php/Old_Ships_2010

I'm also working on adding these ships to the Custom Paintjobs sections of the ship pages.

Cool!
JazHaz: King of the WIKI

pagroove · Post by **pagroove** » Fri Apr 30, 2010 9:35 pm

Does anyone know where the original ship descriptions can be found. As I know these ships are from Elite-A and that version has a ship encyclopedia inside.

On these pages there are descriptions but these are ship reviews from the author and probably not the originals.

http://elite.acornarcade.com/ships/chameleo.htm

JazHaz · Post by **JazHaz** » Fri Apr 30, 2010 10:02 pm

pagroove wrote:
As a bonus I added The Monitor 2. A modernized version of the Monitor Classic. With a little more speed, pitch and roll.

Have also created a ship page for the Monitor 2. Can you confirm that all you changed from the original Monitor was the speed, pitch and roll?

I copied the ship data table from the original Monitor, however some of the stats are "Unknown"...?

http://wiki.alioth.net/index.php/Monitor_2

ADCK · Post by **ADCK** » Fri Apr 30, 2010 10:15 pm

pagroove wrote:
Does anyone know where the original ship descriptions can be found. As I know these ships are from Elite-A and that version has a ship encyclopedia inside.

On these pages there are descriptions but these are ship reviews from the author and probably not the originals.

http://elite.acornarcade.com/ships/chameleo.htm

I think those are the officail versions, Ian Bells site has a link to Elite-A and an emulator if you want to check in game

http://www.iancgbell.clara.net/elite/bbc/index.htm