UPDATED OXPS: Lave 1.70 & transports 2.45(new)

[phkb]

The benefit of putting all the PF2.0 code into Famous Planets means there’s fewer issues with conflicts and one centralised place to do everything. On the flip side, any OXP that adds planets or moons will need separate code anyway. My feeling is, system-specific OXPs should probably be in control of any system-specific functions, like PF2.0 integration. FPO should really only touch systems that don’t have a specific OXP, or only touch them when the system specific OXP isn’t installed. So, probably a bit of both will end up being the the answer, with FPO ceding control when the system OXP is present.

[Cholmondely]

The benefit of putting all the PF2.0 code into Famous Planets means there’s fewer issues with conflicts and one centralised place to do everything. On the flip side, any OXP that adds planets or moons will need separate code anyway. My feeling is, system-specific OXPs should probably be in control of any system-specific functions, like PF2.0 integration. FPO should really only touch systems that don’t have a specific OXP, or only touch them when the system specific OXP isn’t installed. So, probably a bit of both will end up being the the answer, with FPO ceding control when the system OXP is present.

So bung the planetary locations into Famous Planets and bung the Bastan palace into Lave 2.0 ?

As an aside, Lave (Lore) claims: "Lave now has a total of six stations in orbit" (Selezen's wiki page based on Elite/Frontier).

I'm afraid that I posted Riredi before I saw your suggestion here.

[phkb]

So bung the planetary locations into Famous Planets and bung the Bastan palace into Lave 2.0 ?

As an aside, Lave (Lore) claims: "Lave now has a total of six stations in orbit" (Selezen's wiki page based on Elite/Frontier).

I'm afraid that I posted Riredi before I saw your suggestion here.

I'm busily adding all the locations into the individual OXP's as we speak, mainly because I have control over those ones at the moment. FPO isn't something I'm looking to get involved in at the moment, but I can compile all the changes I'm making into a script that could be included in FDO so it hands control to the system OXP's nicely.

[Selezen]

The Galactic Co-Operative means very little to the serfs tilling the fields of a Poor Agricultural Feudal planet, or the mind-numbed drones of an Industrial Dictatorship, or the Corporate wage-slaves. We, the pilots, are the lucky ones. We're out, and free: and, shameful to admit, we don't really care about the suffering billions toiling away at the bottom of all those gravity wells. A two-line description tells us all we want to know about them, their planets and their lives.

1) Interraction with Diplomancy. Should graduates of Lave Academy be given (say) a year's visa for Lave on graduation?
2) HIMSN is not based at Lave. But maybe some sort of office at the Academy for "recruiting" students if they have a sufficient Elite ranking?
3) Recruiting offices for Galactic Navy, RRS Group, Taxi Galactica (are there any others of relevance?).

Some thoughts on the above.

The initial quite from Disembodied is crucial to what I feel is the core of the Ooniverse. That massive gap between the planetary societies and the spacefaring community. I think most worlds are probably unaware that there is a functional space society miling about above their heads. I think GalCop has used their systems for strategic and economic reasons to allow interstellar trade to flourish but hasn't bothered to let the more technoologically challenged worlds even know they are there. That's why GalCop lists members by world name rather than system name. TL10+ worlds are probably aware that GalCop exists and there are likely treaties between them that grease the wheels. Which brings me to...

1) Should graduates of Lave Academy be given a visa for Lave? No. Canon fiction (Dark Wheel, I think) states that it's very rare for spacefarers to be allowed planetside. And this makes sense to me given the economic and biological impact. Quarantine would be a necessity, and any potential biogens would need to be strongly filtered out. I imagine the process of trying to get access to a planet you weren't born on being 20 times worse than Australian Border Control.
2) Her Imperial Majesty's Space Navy - jeeez, those guys. This opens up a few theories I've had for probably about thirty years on the structure of GalCop and the member worlds. First, GalCop basically has no jurisdiction planetside - worlds govern themselves and are left to their own devices. That's why there's a label for each political type of world and not a blanket "GalCop Planetary Governance" status. As such, and with the first point in mind, HIMSN and the galactic navy are two entirely separate entities. I don't think HIMSN would be based on a GalCop station - I doubt they would have a presence due to the aforementioned potential risk of contagion. Also, Lave is a "dictatorship" run by "the tyrant" and if that name is earned rather than granted then I think there would be a strong independent vein running through LaveGov. As such I think any HIMSN presence in Lave orbitspace would be in a separate and secure facility. I have a LOT more of this stuff bouncing around in my brain...

Anyway, just some thoughts. It's been a while since I let me mind wander through Elite/Oolite lore so thanks for indulging me.

[phkb]

That massive gap between the planetary societies and the spacefaring community. I think most worlds are probably unaware that there is a functional space society miling about above their heads.

How to you see the issue of the TL of the station being linked to the planet? With a (say) TL2 Av.Ag. world, why would the station be linked technologically with the planet if most worlds are unaware of the spacefaring community, and there is a massive gap between the planet and space communities?

[Selezen]

Yeah, that's a big plot hole right there. No answer to that one, sorry.

If I was to make something up on the hoof, I'd say potentially there could be a clandestine link to the planetary economy. Unmanned drones could be doing naughty things in remote places to ferry goods to the station?

Alternatively GalCop controls the economy of those stations to deliberately affect supply and demand and balance the galactic economy. Another reason why the Federation and Imperials don't like them...