Join us at the Oolite Anniversary Party -- London, 7th July 2024, 1pm
More details in this thread.

Autosaving

An area for discussing new ideas and additions to Oolite.

Moderators: winston, another_commander

OBese87
Poor
Poor
Posts: 7
Joined: Mon Jul 02, 2007 5:49 am
Location: Downstairs

Autosaving

Post by OBese87 »

I think there should be an auto-save when you dock at a station. Not really worth its own thread but I couldn't see it mentioned anywhere else :roll:
User avatar
Uncle Reno
---- E L I T E ----
---- E L I T E ----
Posts: 648
Joined: Mon Apr 24, 2006 12:54 pm
Location: UK

Post by Uncle Reno »

Hmm, could do but it doesn't take that much to save manually - mind you I'm as guilty as the next person for not remembering to do it. :)
"Get back or I unleash my lethal spotted batoid!!"

What I do when not reading the Oolite bulletin board!
User avatar
TGHC
---- E L I T E ----
---- E L I T E ----
Posts: 2157
Joined: Mon Jan 31, 2005 4:16 pm
Location: Berkshire, UK

Post by TGHC »

It's the golden rule!
The Grey Haired Commander has spoken!
OK so I'm a PC user - "you know whats scary? Out of billions of sperm I was the fastest"
User avatar
elite
Deadly
Deadly
Posts: 128
Joined: Thu Jun 21, 2007 9:26 am

Post by elite »

TGHC wrote:
It's the golden rule!
LOL yeah that's true, but an auto save function when you dock does sound like a good idea.
User avatar
TGHC
---- E L I T E ----
---- E L I T E ----
Posts: 2157
Joined: Mon Jan 31, 2005 4:16 pm
Location: Berkshire, UK

Post by TGHC »

If you use a PC and hit alt-tab to change screens, it triggers the energy bomb, makes you duck and jump out of your seat, and you become a fugitive if any galcops are around. Nope auto save is not for me, if it was an option you could select then fine, but me I like the manual save.
The Grey Haired Commander has spoken!
OK so I'm a PC user - "you know whats scary? Out of billions of sperm I was the fastest"
OBese87
Poor
Poor
Posts: 7
Joined: Mon Jul 02, 2007 5:49 am
Location: Downstairs

Post by OBese87 »

@ TGHC

I don't see how that would affect it as you'd have to be airborne to do all that anyway. Do you mean you would then try to dock and then an autosave would be undesirable? So maybe there a prompt when you dock?
I don't know, as you can probably tell from my number of posts I'm not that experienced at this game, but I haven't been in the situation where an autosave in a docking station would be a nuissance.
Maybe there should just be a prompt when you hit "F1/1" to make sure you do in fact want to launch?
I don't know, these are all just suggestions, I'll leave it to the more experienced players to decide. :roll:
User avatar
PsychotropicDog
Above Average
Above Average
Posts: 28
Joined: Tue Jul 10, 2007 8:09 pm

Post by PsychotropicDog »

I do not think an autosave is a good idea, unless of course it was an option that those of us who loathe autosaves of all kinds can simply not install.
User avatar
*cat
Dangerous
Dangerous
Posts: 103
Joined: Wed Mar 28, 2007 12:12 pm
Location: Bristol, UK (or maybe Anerak?!)

Autosave

Post by *cat »

There are those (myself not included) who consider the "save at every station" technique to be a terrible form of cheating! The chance of losing three hours of gameplay concentrates the mind somewhat when you're planning to take on 7 pirates!
It's nice to have the choice to "cheat" or not! I think there were some purists amongst the 80s players who refused to save every jump... Any 80s Elites out there prepared to step forward? Though I suspect it wou;d take 20 years to reach Elite on the BBC A anyway!

*cat
(currently dealing with an infestation of *fleas at the moment, thanks to our neighbour's cat. At least trumbles don't bite you in your bed, and we can't go visiting stars in our house like you can in Oolite!)
User avatar
davcefai
---- E L I T E ----
---- E L I T E ----
Posts: 400
Joined: Sun Dec 03, 2006 9:07 pm

Post by davcefai »

You sometimes want to save under a new name. Autosave will probably save over your previous savegame.
User avatar
Captain Hesperus
Grand High Clock-Tower Poobah
Grand High Clock-Tower Poobah
Posts: 2310
Joined: Tue Sep 19, 2006 1:10 pm
Location: Anywhere I can sell Trumbles.....

Re: Autosave

Post by Captain Hesperus »

*cat wrote:
(currently dealing with an infestation of *fleas at the moment, thanks to our neighbour's cat. At least trumbles don't bite you in your bed, and we can't go visiting stars in our house like you can in Oolite!)
You obviously haven't had a major outbreak of Trumbles! At least with *fleas, you *actually have* a bed to be bitten in. With Trumbles, you are lucky if you can maintain hull integrity.

Cute and fluffy Trumble for sale, any takers?:wink:

Captain Hesperus
The truth, revealed!!
Image
User avatar
Helvellyn
Dangerous
Dangerous
Posts: 118
Joined: Wed Jul 11, 2007 11:59 pm
Location: Qudira
Contact:

Re: Autosave

Post by Helvellyn »

*cat wrote:
There are those (myself not included) who consider the "save at every station" technique to be a terrible form of cheating! The chance of losing three hours of gameplay concentrates the mind somewhat when you're planning to take on 7 pirates!
It's nice to have the choice to "cheat" or not! I think there were some purists amongst the 80s players who refused to save every jump... Any 80s Elites out there prepared to step forward? Though I suspect it wou;d take 20 years to reach Elite on the BBC A anyway!
Think you mean BBC B... What do you mean, "suspect"? Didn't you ever get there? :)

Most people saved at every station in the original, half the magazine articles at the time said it was the golden rule. Sometimes I like to have games where I start from scratch, and restart if I die, but that's not my usual method.

What I would like to see are the other control options (restart and load, really) enabled when in flight. I can understand not saving in flight, to avoid making things too easy, but the others should be allowed.
User avatar
*cat
Dangerous
Dangerous
Posts: 103
Joined: Wed Mar 28, 2007 12:12 pm
Location: Bristol, UK (or maybe Anerak?!)

Attention span

Post by *cat »

It [b]was[/b] a BBC A, though with an extra blitter(?) chip and the RAM upgrade. I've never got beyond Deadly in Elite. Currently only Dangerous on the Oolite; hopefully I'll have the concentration span to "go all the way" this time, though my kill rate is not huge... maybe by star-flea kill rate can be added?!
User avatar
Helvellyn
Dangerous
Dangerous
Posts: 118
Joined: Wed Jul 11, 2007 11:59 pm
Location: Qudira
Contact:

Post by Helvellyn »

Ah, the upgrade that turned the A into a B anyway. I'm not sure what the change was other than RAM (it wasn't a blitter), you've got me curious now.
The Dreamcatcher
Competent
Competent
Posts: 35
Joined: Wed Jul 11, 2007 1:25 pm

Post by The Dreamcatcher »

I don't like the idea of an autosave. Like *cat said, it makes you concentrate more if there's the risk of losing all your hard work. I tend to save about once an hour. If you save every time you dock then it's easy to get into the mentality that it doesn't matter if you die. I think you ought to have to buy "save game tokens" at the stations.

Saving in flight isn't really an option. It would have to remember the current state (location, direction, speed, status etc.) of every ship/object in the system.
User avatar
Helvellyn
Dangerous
Dangerous
Posts: 118
Joined: Wed Jul 11, 2007 11:59 pm
Location: Qudira
Contact:

Post by Helvellyn »

The Dreamcatcher wrote:
I don't like the idea of an autosave. Like *cat said, it makes you concentrate more if there's the risk of losing all your hard work. I tend to save about once an hour. If you save every time you dock then it's easy to get into the mentality that it doesn't matter if you die. I think you ought to have to buy "save game tokens" at the stations.
Save game tokens for sale wouldn't be good - there's no logical reason for them to be part of the game universe. Elite has always had saving at stations.
Saving in flight isn't really an option. It would have to remember the current state (location, direction, speed, status etc.) of every ship/object in the system.
But there's no reason not to have reload and restart available in flight.
Post Reply