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Problems with Keyboardsettings!
Posted: Wed Apr 04, 2007 4:40 pm
by julyy
I have the mac version of oolite - newest.
Most of the keys are not working, like the tab for the energybomb, the ` for comlog, switching compass mode, the \ (alt shift 7) for ...? dont remember. everything with no effect.
Also I saw a description of "emergency hyperspace" never heard of that (?).
Also rotating the cargo was new to me. Edit: is described in the manual. I read over it.
The game isnt playable with half of the keys not working and half of the keys not known at all! Why is there no _complete_ Manual? And what should I do to get a correct keyconfig.plist?
all the best, j
Posted: Wed Apr 04, 2007 5:39 pm
by JensAyton
Hmm, the energy bomb does seem to be broken in 1.68. As for the others: due to the way Oolite handles keys, non-English keyboard layouts won’t work out of the box. Personally I switch to a UK layout to play/test. I realise this isn’t optimal.
There is no up-to-date manual because no-one has yet written one. Marianne started on one a couple of weeks ago, I don’t know how that is progressing.
Posted: Thu Apr 05, 2007 12:14 am
by another_commander
Maybe the energy bomb is broken only in the Mac version? I just fired an energy bomb outside a station - bad move - and it worked as expected (my subsequent instant termination by Vipers also worked as expected). Running Win32 current SVN snapshot, US keyboard layout.
Posted: Thu Apr 05, 2007 2:05 am
by julyy
Perhaps its because I got an European Keyboard?? But in the config its standart ascii values ...
.... I dont have a clue ...
(And hey, the bomb still failed but I shot the vipers down!
Posted: Thu Apr 05, 2007 7:04 am
by Uncle Reno
Energy bomb on the Mac is tied to the "9" key.
Had a quick run through trying other controls and everything else seems to work but I am using an English keyboard.
Never heard of "emergency hyperdrive", where did you see that?
Posted: Thu Apr 05, 2007 7:21 am
by Uncle Reno
I wrote:Energy bomb on the Mac is tied to the "9" key.
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Never heard of "emergency hyperdrive", where did you see that?
OK, I've updated the Wiki with the information about the Energy bomb key but if somebody knows the Dec and Hex keycodes please can they add those.
On the same page I also found the emergency hyperdrive listed (shift+H) - it has a note that it "wont work, probably".
Posted: Thu Apr 05, 2007 12:11 pm
by JensAyton
Energy bomb is tied to key code 9 -- which is the tab key. It works for me now, and I haven’t changed anything; my guess is I tapped it too fast when I was tested it yesterday.
Posted: Thu Apr 05, 2007 4:26 pm
by Uncle Reno
Not for me it's not, it is the key 9, and I have made no changes to the keys used, currently running 1.68.
Posted: Thu Apr 05, 2007 4:43 pm
by JensAyton
Weird.
Posted: Thu Apr 05, 2007 4:50 pm
by julyy
I have to press the _number_key 9 to release the energy bomb. Although I know that ascii 9 is TAB, but with TAB nothing happens.
Posted: Thu Apr 05, 2007 4:55 pm
by Captain Hesperus
julyy wrote:I have to press the numerkey 9 to release the energy bomb. Allthouh I know that ascii 9 is TAB, but with TAB ntohing happens.
Well, it's not so much of a problem as long as you can deploy the thing. At least you avoid the embarrassing moment on a PC when you Alt-Tab between screens (to check e-mail, BB posts, maybe write a couple of lines of essay....) to hear 900 Cr go bye-bye, Alt-Tab back to find you've murdered a Viper and are now a Fugitive....
Worst you'll get is you'll either fire up your Cloaking Device (no big problem), or get the local market prices for your cargo (bit of a problem, but not fatal).
Captain Hesperus
Posted: Thu Apr 05, 2007 5:00 pm
by JensAyton
Captain Hesperus wrote:Well, it's not so much of a problem as long as you can deploy the thing. At least you avoid the embarrassing moment on a PC when you Alt-Tab between screens (to check e-mail, BB posts, maybe write a couple of lines of essay....) to hear 900 Cr go bye-bye, Alt-Tab back to find you've murdered a Viper and are now a Fugitive....
Trust me when I say that this is not a PC-specific issue.
Posted: Sun Apr 08, 2007 12:50 pm
by Commander McLane
It is an age-old known bug--or better: a mystery--that the energy bomb on the Mac is tied to the number-9-key, despite the fact that the keyconfig.plist ties it to ASCII-9, which is the TAB-key.
Up to now I haven't come across any explanation for this, indeed, weird behaviour (all the other ASCII-definitions are just fine), so it remains a mystery.
If the answer isn't buried somewhere deep in the code of Oolite (perhaps in that case you could dig it out, Ahruman), I guess it must be buried somewhere deep in OS X and/or the Mac's key-handling.
Posted: Sun Apr 08, 2007 1:50 pm
by JensAyton
Commander McLane wrote:It is an age-old known bug--or better: a mystery--that the energy bomb on the Mac is tied to the number-9-key, despite the fact that the keyconfig.plist ties it to ASCII-9, which is the TAB-key.
But it’s Tab on
my Mac.
Commander McLane wrote:…I guess it must be buried somewhere deep in OS X and/or the Mac's key-handling.
Highly unlikely.
Posted: Sun Apr 08, 2007 6:36 pm
by JensAyton
Uncle Reno wrote:I wrote:Energy bomb on the Mac is tied to the "9" key.
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Never heard of "emergency hyperdrive", where did you see that?
OK, I've updated the Wiki with the information about the Energy bomb key but if somebody knows the Dec and Hex keycodes please can they add those.
On the same page I also found the emergency hyperdrive listed (shift+H) - it has a note that it "wont work, probably". :)
I’ve just been going over the keys, so I can now reliably state that the reason for it probably not working is that it’s never checked. At all. Ever.
So I’ve taken it out.