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Station sizes on the wiki vs the dat files

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Station sizes on the wiki vs the dat files

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I was doing a bit of research, and came across this apparent discrepancy.

The Coriolis station DAT file has this at the top

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// model size: 1000.000 x 1000.000 x 995.918
This corresponds pretty well with the lore, which says the stations were 1km x 1km x 1km in size, with a small rounding issue for that 995 value. I'm not going to sweat small variations like that.

So, at this point, the wiki, the DAT file and the lore is all *pretty much* consistent.

So I then had a look at the Dodo DAT file:

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// model size: 1336.798 x 1406.010 x 1148.755
Ah, so it's a bit bigger, then. 1.3km x 1.4km x 1.1km. And the wiki says:
1000 x 1000 x 1000
OK, so one of these is wrong. What about the Ico?

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// model size: 1286.006 x 1286.006 x 1278.767
And the wiki says:
1000 x 1000 x 1000
At this point, I would be prepared to say the wiki is wrong. But let's check the in-game values (or at least, the information available via the boundingBox property).

Coriolis station: 1000 x 1000 x 1034.3
Dodo station: 1336.8 x 1406.01 x 1172.12
Ico station: 1286.01 x 1286.01 x 1291.13

Each of these bounding box values is pretty much in line with the values specified in the DAT files for the associated station.

Summary: I *think* the wiki is wrong, at least as far as the Griff-style stations is concerned. However, before I make wholesale changes, is there any lore that would come into play for this? Or any other take on this I haven't considered?
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Re: Station sizes on the wiki vs the dat files

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https://wiki.alioth.net/index.php/Dodec ... n_(Oolite) - written by Murgh (our beloved wine-wallah) in 2006
https://wiki.alioth.net/index.php/Dodec ... _(classic) - written by Dr Beeb in 2010

Seems you are spot on.

It makes good sense that the more expensive stations (subsidised by the wealthier systems) are bigger.

And that it would make good sense to update the wiki. I'll wait a bit before doing so to give others (User,Selezen etc) a chance to weigh in.
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Re: Station sizes on the wiki vs the dat files

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I'll make the wiki match the in-game values, as that seems like the obvious link. The DAT files are probably not taking into consideration any subentity additions which is why they're slightly different to the in-game numbers.
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