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Thargoids, thargoids everywhere.
Posted: Sat Oct 19, 2013 11:47 am
by Agis Silverfish
Hello!
I have been milkrunning Diso and Leesti for some time but now everywhere I go there are Thargoids attacking the Station as I dock in and out. Diso, Leesti, Lave, Zaonce... I am getting better at docking under fire but all I want is to trade peacefully. What's the matter?
Re: Thargoids, thargoids everywhere.
Posted: Sat Oct 19, 2013 11:56 am
by Smivs
Sounds OXP related to me...
Re: Thargoids, thargoids everywhere.
Posted: Sat Oct 19, 2013 11:56 am
by Cody
It has to be an OXP causing that - any likely suspects?
Re: Thargoids, thargoids everywhere.
Posted: Sat Oct 19, 2013 12:06 pm
by Diziet Sma
Agis Silverfish wrote:I am getting better at docking under fire
A most valuable skill to acquire, is that.. and you've cunningly found a method that doesn't involve a criminal record.. well done!
Re: Thargoids, thargoids everywhere.
Posted: Sat Oct 19, 2013 12:15 pm
by Shipbuilder
Which OXPs do you have installed ?
Re: Thargoids, thargoids everywhere.
Posted: Sat Oct 19, 2013 12:57 pm
by Agis Silverfish
Diziet Sma wrote:Agis Silverfish wrote:I am getting better at docking under fire
A most valuable skill to acquire, is that.. and you've cunningly found a method that doesn't involve a criminal record.. well done!
I wouldn't go as far as calling that a method. Let's just say that I don't get killed 100% of the times.
My current OXPs are:
Anarchies
Behemoth
Better Screens
Bigships
Buoy Repair
Cabal Common Library
Commies
Dictators
Diso
Galactic Navy
Gritty Coriolis
Hard Ships
Ice-Asteroids
Iron Hide
Lane Legal
Missionaries
New Ships
Ore Processor
PA Groove Stations
Planetfall
Randomshipnames
Saveanywhere
System Redux
Target Reticle
Taxi Galactica
Telescope
Feudal States
Tori2
Total Patrol
Towbar
Transhab
Transports
X-ships
Z-Groovy Sistem Stations
Zeke Mining Transporter
Z-Ships
Zygobuoy
ZygoCinematicSky&Nebulas
ZygoRoids
Zz-Oo-Haul
I am going to try planetfalling at an adequate planet.
Edit: Oh, boy. I still haven't bought the license.
Edit: Zaonce Station under attack. I could dock but I didn't have enough money for Planetary Landing Capability.
Edit: Same problem with a new game and a new install. I removed all OXPs and the Thargoids went away. I'll put back the OXPs one by one and I'll tell you if any OXP seems to be involved in the incident.
Re: Thargoids, thargoids everywhere.
Posted: Sun Oct 20, 2013 8:37 am
by Diziet Sma
Agis Silverfish wrote:Edit: Same problem with a new game and a new install. I removed all OXPs and the Thargoids went away. I'll put back the OXPs one by one and I'll tell you if any OXP seems to be involved in the incident.
When trying to identify which OXP is causing problems, the binary method saves a lot of time..
Remove half the OXPs. If problem goes away, change to the other half of the set and try again.
Continue removing half the OXPs each time, eliminating the half that are trouble-free. Repeat until you have identified the culprit.
Even if you have hundreds of OXPs, this method will let you identify the source of the trouble in less than 10 iterations.
Re: Thargoids, thargoids everywhere.
Posted: Sun Oct 20, 2013 10:44 am
by Agis Silverfish
Great tip. I assumed that some OXP were working properly since they have been with me for quite a time and I examined the new ones more carefully. To my surprise, the problem came from Telescope_0.85.oxp. I double checked. If you're interested in my saves or anything please tell me.
Thank you!
Re: Thargoids, thargoids everywhere.
Posted: Sun Oct 20, 2013 11:21 am
by Duggan
Hello Agis Silverfish,
I see that your version of Telescope is an older experimental version designed specifically for play testing and development.
The latest release of Telescope
https://bb.oolite.space/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=14961 will address the issue regarding too many Thargoids
Re: Thargoids, thargoids everywhere.
Posted: Sun Oct 20, 2013 1:23 pm
by Agis Silverfish
Thank you very much. I'm looking forward to it.
Re: Thargoids, thargoids everywhere.
Posted: Sun Oct 20, 2013 1:55 pm
by Eric Walch
Duggan wrote:... is an older experimental version designed specifically for play testing and development.
The best thing for an test oxp is the addition of an [wiki]OXPMessages.plist[/wiki] inside the OXP. This will put an annoying message on the startup screen, telling the player he is working with a test versions of an oxp.
This helps preventing the use of that oxp outside testing purposes.
Re: Thargoids, thargoids everywhere.
Posted: Sun Oct 20, 2013 2:20 pm
by Norby
Hi Agis Silverfish!
I would like to ask how you managed to install exatcly the 0.85 version. I put it into the oldversions folder of my box when there are newer versions in the same folder also so I do not known why you missed these. Maybe we can prevent others to make the same mistake if you remember what was the false way.
Re: Thargoids, thargoids everywhere.
Posted: Sun Oct 20, 2013 2:57 pm
by Agis Silverfish
Norby wrote:Hi Agis Silverfish! I would like to ask how you managed to install exactly the 0.85 version..
I think I clicked too quickly and I didn't notice that I had opened the Older Versions folder. Sorry for all the trouble. I'll be more careful next time.
Re: Thargoids, thargoids everywhere.
Posted: Sun Oct 20, 2013 3:37 pm
by Norby
Ok, thank you.
Eric Walch wrote:The best thing for an test oxp is the addition of an [wiki]OXPMessages.plist[/wiki] inside the OXP. This will put an annoying message on the startup screen, telling the player he is working with a test versions of an oxp.
Thanks Eric for the information, now I inserted this and a commsMessage at undock for sure.
Re: Thargoids, thargoids everywhere.
Posted: Mon Oct 21, 2013 6:56 pm
by Malacandra
Thargoids, Thargoids everywhere, nor any ship to sink.