Oolite Bulletins

Anarchies: 20 ships? but there seems to be a lot of repetition (anarchies collage above)
Commies: 7 ships?
Dictatorships: 8 ships (including repetition)
Feudal States: 3 ships with a zillion versions of each (different coats of arms).

Old Murgh wrote: ↑Tue Apr 19, 2022 4:26 pm

...how do you feel about the brand name of the Coral liners?

Couldn't find it. It's not listed in the Ship's Library, and when I try to open your new Lave.oxp it turns into a massive 20mb text file rather than a folder...

Cholmondely wrote: ↑Tue Apr 19, 2022 5:00 pm

Couldn't find it. It's not listed in the Ship's Library, and when I try to open your new Lave.oxp it turns into a massive 20mb text file rather than a folder...

Thanks for illustration, but.. mon dieu!
I didn't make library entries for the Lave critters, but I can't understand the event you're explaining. It downloads fine for me when I try it now, resulting in the usual file.
Is it possible some freak accident happened during your download? Would you try to fetch it again and see if it is the same?

Cholmondely wrote: ↑Tue Apr 19, 2022 5:00 pm

... and when I try to open your new Lave.oxp it turns into a massive 20mb text file rather than a folder...

Old Murgh wrote: ↑Tue Apr 19, 2022 5:43 pm

Is it possible some freak accident happened during your download? Would you try to fetch it again and see if it is the same?

I'm not sure it will make any difference. I've just tried changing the .oxp ending to .txt for all five Iron Ass .oxp's - and your new wpb.oxp - the same issue with each and every one of them. I've not had this before. Not even with your old oxp's.

It's some sort of Scandinavian thing, right? Something to do with the tragic loss of Sweden in 1905, or the devastating forfeiture of Denmark in 1814? Or does it date back to missing out on the Swedish celebration of February 30th back in 1712?

Cholmondely wrote: ↑Tue Apr 19, 2022 6:32 pm

I'm not sure it will make any difference. I've just tried changing the .oxp ending to .txt for all five Iron Ass .oxp's - and your new wpb.oxp - the same issue with each and every one of them. I've not had this before. Not even with your old oxp's.

But I don't understand what you would achieve by changing the suffix.
You controlclick to expose package contents.. and then in that folder you would blah.. Or remove the suffix altogether making it a regular folder.. but you know this, so I don't understand.

Cholmondely wrote: ↑Tue Apr 19, 2022 6:32 pm

It's some sort of Scandinavian thing, right? Something to do with the tragic loss of Sweden in 1905, or the devastating forfeiture of Denmark in 1814? Or does it date back to missing out on the Swedish celebration of February 30th back in 1712?

That's some compact, merciless deep-cutting to my inflated sense of patriotism. You must have detected a weakness there.

Old Murgh wrote: ↑Tue Apr 19, 2022 8:05 pm

Cholmondely wrote: ↑Tue Apr 19, 2022 6:32 pm

I'm not sure it will make any difference. I've just tried changing the .oxp ending to .txt for all five Iron Ass .oxp's - and your new wpb.oxp - the same issue with each and every one of them. I've not had this before. Not even with your old oxp's.

But I don't understand what you would achieve by changing the suffix.
You controlclick to expose package contents.. and then in that folder you would blah.. Or remove the suffix altogether making it a regular folder.. but you know this, so I don't understand.

Nope.



The way I've opened .oxp's for the past year and a half is to click on the name and change

"oolite.oxp.Murgh.IronAssVol1_V.1.0.1_1024_replace.oxp"

into

"oolite.oxp.Murgh.IronAssVol1_V.1.0.1_1024_replace.txt"

- which transmogrifies the bally thing into a folder which I can then pick over to my heart's content (unless it is one of yours).



Removing the suffix does nothing - my AppleMac remembers it is an .oxp


The .oxz's get dragged onto Archive Utility which blows them up.

Cholmondely wrote: ↑Tue Apr 19, 2022 8:33 pm

Nope.



The way I've opened .oxp's for the past year and a half is to click on the name and change

"oolite.oxp.Murgh.IronAssVol1_V.1.0.1_1024_replace.oxp"

into

"oolite.oxp.Murgh.IronAssVol1_V.1.0.1_1024_replace.txt"

- which transmogrifies the bally thing into a folder which I can then pick over to my heart's content (unless it is one of yours).



Removing the suffix does nothing - my AppleMac remembers it is an .oxp


The .oxz's get dragged onto Archive Utility which blows them up.

Ah, yes it would remember it's an OXP, nevermind.
But. Pressing ctrl while clicking on the oxp (or rightclicking with one's 2-button mouse) exposes menu that offers to show the package contents. This is the only way to do it as far as I'm concerned.

Yes, altering .oxp to .txt would make you one huge text doc, I can't imagine anything else happening. I 'll have to try this with a PC-made oxp.

Maybe you are experiencing this pure form of file treatment because it's the first time you've ever received an OXP directly from another mac?

Old Murgh wrote: ↑Tue Apr 19, 2022 8:51 pm

Yes, altering .oxp to .txt would make you one huge text doc, I can't imagine anything else happening. I 'll have to try this with a PC-made oxp.

Maybe you are experiencing this pure form of file treatment because it's the first time you've ever received an OXP directly from another mac?

But I've opened zillions of oxp's using this method. Never had a problem before today. And some of them will have been from Mac users (including your early ones...). No problems with your original Lave, Diso, Refugee Adder, etc. Or with Stranger's .oxp offerings (PlanetLand) - he also uses a Mac.

Cholmondely wrote: ↑Tue Apr 19, 2022 9:08 pm

But I've opened zillions of oxp's using this method. Never had a problem before today. And some of them will have been from Mac users (including your early ones...). No problems with your original Lave, Diso, Refugee Adder, etc. Or with Stranger's .oxp offerings (PlanetLand) - he also uses a Mac.

I don't think you can rule out PC middle men in those cases. Mine (new ones) are the only pure Mac OXP you've laid your hands on

Just tried your txt trick with a PCmade OXP. Cute. But highly irregular.

Old Murgh wrote: ↑Tue Apr 19, 2022 9:34 pm

I don't think you can rule out PC middle men in those cases. Mine (new ones) are the only pure Mac OXP you've laid your hands on

Just tried your txt trick with a PCmade OXP. Cute. But highly irregular.

Don't believe a word of it. I know it has to be something to do with the Union of Calmar... unless it's the Witchspace Lobster... !

Cholmondely wrote: ↑Tue Apr 19, 2022 11:24 pm

Don't believe a word of it. I know it has to be something to do with the Union of Calmar... unless it's the Witchspace Lobster... !

Centuries of oppression will inevitably foment profound resentment. We will have our vengeance against our former masters. The lobsters will pay.

Cholmondely wrote: ↑Tue Apr 19, 2022 11:24 pm

... unless it's the Witchspace Lobster... !

Nah... it's the ghost of Jobs, walking his walled garden with his Indian guru!

Cody wrote: ↑Wed Apr 20, 2022 8:37 am

Cholmondely wrote: ↑Tue Apr 19, 2022 11:24 pm

... unless it's the Witchspace Lobster... !

Nah... it's the ghost of Jobs, walking his walled garden with his Indian guru!

More apologetics from the Prophet of the Witchspace Lobster... Murgh - he's trying it on...

Cholmondely wrote: ↑Tue Apr 19, 2022 5:00 pm

Old Murgh wrote: ↑Tue Apr 19, 2022 4:26 pm

...how do you feel about the brand name of the Coral liners?

Couldn't find it. It's not listed in the Ship's Library, and when I try to open your new Lave.oxp it turns into a massive 20mb text file rather than a folder...

So now that the Jobs Lobster permits all to be transparent, what was your reaction?

Old Murgh wrote: ↑Wed Apr 20, 2022 11:31 am

So now that the Jobs Lobster permits all to be transparent, what was your reaction?

In the words of the Holy Profit: Water off a duck's back... (or should that be a lobster's?)

Thank heavens I've a reasonably thick skin (but not yet a lobster's carapace). And compared to what I've done to you, it seems minimal...



But did you see cbr's exquisite riposte?

cbr wrote: ↑Fri Jun 11, 2021 8:02 pm

This constore really does contain a lot of different ad screens, it is a puzzle itself to find out what everything is and does.
it will take some time to convert this fully to a constore casino...



but it is all in the details. lol.

Cholmondely wrote: ↑Wed Apr 20, 2022 12:14 pm

But did you see cbr's exquisite riposte?

I hadn’t. It’s mesmerising and intricate. A skinning nightmare I reckon.

I was only referring to the name given to the Coral line of passenger ships in IronAssLave, if you happened to fly underneath one or IDping it..