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Re: Show and Tell (new ships/ ships in progress)

Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2012 4:08 pm
by mandoman
You know, that all sounds cool, and I have seen the evidence of the technique you describe, but even reading what you just wrote sounds confusing to me. I took a lot of art in both high school, and college, and almost decided to major in art, but I don't ever remember anything in art that was as confusing as what you describe.

Killer Wolf, you say your ships look bad without shaders, but I'm of the opinion of Mi Mroriarty. I think your designs are fantastic. I have to admit that the shader effects make them all the more so, but believe they would look great either way.

It's cool that there are those of you that know how to use those techniques, but I seem to have the same struggle with them as I do with understanding Java Script. You have to be able to visualise, and think in a certain way to understand either. The Wiki speaks of mixing colours, but all I see are a bunch of numbers, and letters. I understand them to a point, as I can now place flashers on my ships, but there is a point where I just begin to feel lost. Shoot, when I mix colours to create a painting, or screen work, I just mix the colours till I get the effect I want. That's what I do with my ships. It may not be as visually stimulating as shaders, but it's what I understand. That's all I have to go on, for now. :)

Re: Show and Tell (new ships/ ships in progress)

Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2012 4:45 pm
by CaptSolo
mandoman wrote:
You know, that all sounds cool, and I have seen the evidence of the technique you describe, but even reading what you just wrote sounds confusing to me. I took a lot of art in both high school, and college, and almost decided to major in art, but I don't ever remember anything in art that was as confusing as what you describe.

Killer Wolf, you say your ships look bad without shaders, but I'm of the opinion of Mi Mroriarty. I think your designs are fantastic. I have to admit that the shader effects make them all the more so, but believe they would look great either way.

It's cool that there are those of you that know how to use those techniques, but I seem to have the same struggle with them as I do with understanding Java Script. You have to be able to visualise, and think in a certain way to understand either. The Wiki speaks of mixing colours, but all I see are a bunch of numbers, and letters. I understand them to a point, as I can now place flashers on my ships, but there is a point where I just begin to feel lost. Shoot, when I mix colours to create a painting, or screen work, I just mix the colours till I get the effect I want. That's what I do with my ships. It may not be as visually stimulating as shaders, but it's what I understand. That's all I have to go on, for now. :)
This is why I was hesitant to expand on the technique and instead referred to Griffs work because by studying them is how I learned, that and by losing a little sleep with GIMP. But the principle is sound and once understood a walk in the park.

Re: Show and Tell (new ships/ ships in progress)

Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2012 10:47 pm
by mandoman
See my Mandotech Ind. Topic for this ship pic.

Re: Show and Tell (new ships/ ships in progress)

Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2012 11:04 pm
by Gimi
Wow, the Mandoman Armada. :shock: :D

Re: Show and Tell (new ships/ ships in progress)

Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2012 1:26 am
by mandoman
Gimi wrote:
Wow, the Mandoman Armada. :shock: :D
I guess. I actually did start to build two different armadas with what is in that picture. I'm still working on the second, which uses the biggest as the mother or base ship, the ships aft and forward are destroyers, and the tiny ones are cruisers and fighters. I'm still trying to visualise a Battleship, a Medical ship, a scout ship, and an actual carrier, as apposed to just the Base Ship. It's fun, even though most of it will never be released. :)

Re: Show and Tell (new ships/ ships in progress)

Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2012 9:07 am
by MiMoriarty
I guess. I actually did start to build two different armadas with what is in that picture. I'm still working on the second, which uses the biggest as the mother or base ship, the ships aft and forward are destroyers, and the tiny ones are cruisers and fighters. I'm still trying to visualise a Battleship, a Medical ship, a scout ship, and an actual carrier, as apposed to just the Base Ship. It's fun, even though most of it will never be released.
Are you on the way for a Ooniverse's invasion? :shock:

Re: Show and Tell (new ships/ ships in progress)

Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2012 11:49 am
by Storm
Hi folks,

I've been lurking here a little while (been a fan of Elite since back in the days of the BBC Micro) and recently decided to try out Wings3d. After some trial and error and some useful howto's on this forum I have managed to texture my first model.

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For emergency use only!

Re: Show and Tell (new ships/ ships in progress)

Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2012 1:35 pm
by mandoman
MiMoriarty wrote:
Are you on the way for a Ooniverse's invasion? :shock:
Sure. At least MY Ooniverse. :D

Re: Show and Tell (new ships/ ships in progress)

Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2012 1:36 pm
by mandoman
Storm wrote:
Hi folks,

I've been lurking here a little while (been a fan of Elite since back in the days of the BBC Micro) and recently decided to try out Wings3d. After some trial and error and some useful howto's on this forum I have managed to texture my first model. For emergency use only!
Nice job, Storm. You are tackling the hardest part first. Way to go. :)

Re: Show and Tell (new ships/ ships in progress)

Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2012 3:29 pm
by MiMoriarty
After some trial and error and some useful howto's on this forum I have managed to texture my first model.
Nice Pod!! :o

Re: Show and Tell (new ships/ ships in progress)

Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2012 8:56 pm
by Storm
Still working on the small end of the object scales, currently in the WIP (or Faulcon de Lacy R&D) phase...

The famous Faulcon de Lacy HM3 Homing Missile...

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And the Faulcon de Lacy Sidewinder...

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The underview of the Sidewinder on the top right clearly showing the missile bay doors and forward laser mount.

Re: Show and Tell (new ships/ ships in progress)

Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2012 10:45 pm
by Disembodied
Nice work there, Storm! Keep 'em coming! :D

Re: Show and Tell (new ships/ ships in progress)

Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2012 10:50 pm
by Cody
Hi Storm and welcome... nice work, but I don't think the Sidewinder mounts any missiles?

Re: Show and Tell (new ships/ ships in progress)

Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2012 10:54 pm
by Storm
The Sidewinder Scout Ship can carry just the one missile.

Re: Show and Tell (new ships/ ships in progress)

Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2012 8:07 am
by MiMoriarty
The famous Faulcon de Lacy HM3 Homing Missile...



And the Faulcon de Lacy Sidewinder...



The underview of the Sidewinder on the top right clearly showing the missile bay doors and forward laser mount.
You're skilled, Storm. The Sidewinder looks amazing, how much faces has it?