Oolite Bulletins

Kaks wrote:

Unfortunately the escorts are still prone to spinning in place, as Eric said:

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There is a bug in the AI scripting of default escorts. After the second attack round they end up in a AI-state without update state. I send this bug already some time ago to the Berlios bug site.

That bug hasn't yet been fixed in trunk.

"BEGIN_BUSINESS" = {
		"LAUNCHED OKAY" = ("setStateTo: CLEAR_STATION");
        ATTACKED = (setTargetToPrimaryAggressor, "setAITo: interceptAI.plist");
        ENTER = (escortCheckMother); 
        EXIT = ();
		ESCORTING = ("setDesiredRangeTo: 0.0", "setStateTo: FLYING_ESCORT");
        "NOT_ESCORTING" = ("setStateTo: LOOK_FOR_BUSINESS");
        UPDATE = (escortCheckMother, "pauseAI: 7.5"); 
    }; 

As per Eric's analysis on the forum, sometimes escorts seem to fall in a state of idleness after an attack. The cause of this has been found to be that they go into the BEGIN_BUSINESS state, which does not have an UPDATE method defined. In SVN 1413, the escortAI.plist has been updated as follows for the ESCORTING and UPDATE methods:
1) ESCORTING = ("setDesiredRangeTo: 0.0", "setStateTo: FLYING_ESCORT");
and
2) UPDATE = (escortCheckMother, "pauseAI: 7.5");

This seems to work without side effects so far. Escorts will attempt to look for mothership when the AI requests an UPDATE and, if accepted, they will enter FLYING_ESCORT state, which is the state they should be in for normal flight. They no longer hang about doing nothing, even if the player attacks multiple times switching on/off the cloaking device...

Cholmondely wrote: ↑Sun May 23, 2021 9:26 am

Would there be point in updating this?

Lave is the System where we begin the standard game... and we already have the Academy!

Lave is the system where HIMSN is based (and we have the ships and textures)

We have DAJT's monument (untouched since 2006)!

We have Stranger's new planet texture!

Could we put together a new Lave.OXP which would combine the above with this OXP (Single Moon - with the Empress's palace?), instructor & trainees & advertising droids?

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1) Would we really need to bother updating the instructors/trinkets etc? It would make sense that they use clunky-looking ships.

2) Would we want some new Lave-specific ads? (The only part I could meaningfully contribute to at the moment)

3) Could we tweak the monument in any way to make it interact with the player?

4) Would it make sense to add a HIMSN naval base?

5) Some sort of traffic between planet/naval base and the Moon Palace? A space port image and interaction on Moon Landings? A space port image for landing on Lave itself?

6) Would we want a Lave which is limited to just the one sun, one planet and the one peculiar moon (as in the Lore)? Or would we want a more complex solar system?

7) Add some more orbital stations? And maybe some sort of interaction with the player?
1) On starting. Say two starting missions, one for a law-abiding player and another for someone less scrupulous?
2) On returning, presumably with a better equipped ship?

• Is there anything else we might wish to add to the mix?
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Lave OXPs
* Lave OXP: single "fake" moon, restaurant ships, instructor & trinkets, advertising droid, Lave bumped from TL5 to TL8
* Lave Academy
* Monument: either close to sun or in orbit around planet depending on sun distance
* FPO Lave: new Lave texture for v.1.90
* PSLave (Planet Scanner) & Far Planets create other planets in the Lave System
* Lave is Earth: A_C_'s planetary texture demonstration

Lave Lore sources (contradictory!)
* Dark Wheel
* Imprint
* Drew's Oolite novels
* Selezen's work - see Lave page on wiki
* Rough Guide (Disembodied)

Personally I'd vote for Disembodied's interpretation (he's the only one still regularly with us!), and try and fit in the others if they work with the Rough Guide.

Disembodied wrote: ↑Sat Feb 23, 2008 4:16 pm

cultist wrote:

From reading planet descriptions many are "colonised" with human colonists?
Maybe some wars of independence from natives?Or something between these lines

There are a lot of planets suffering from "civil wars"... perhaps some of these are between natives and pockets of colonists.

As a remake of Elite, Oolite has taken the -- necessarily -- simplistic original background to the game. While some OXPs can flesh this out a little, most of the work really has to be performed by the player's imagination!

For most of the inhabitants of the oooniverse, life is probably fairly backwards and/or oppressive, not to say brutal and short. The Galactic Co-Operative means very little to the serfs tilling the fields of a Poor Agricultural Feudal planet, or the mind-numbed drones of an Industrial Dictatorship, or the Corporate wage-slaves. We, the pilots, are the lucky ones. We're out, and free: and, shameful to admit, we don't really care about the suffering billions toiling away at the bottom of all those gravity wells. A two-line description tells us all we want to know about them, their planets and their lives.

The Co-Operative is for our benefit, largely, as long as we keep the wealth flowing between the worlds, and filling the pockets of the rich and powerful who dominate the various polities. There must be peasants, cold and hungry, who look up at night to the wormholes blossoming open against the stars, who see us as little high-riding tin gods, unshackled, uncaring, doing whatever we please. Probably, they envy us. Probably, many of them hate us, too. But what's that to us? Open a wormhole: fly away.

Captain Hesperus wrote:

I go by the fiction that mentions that the GalCop central government is based on Lave Coriolis One and that the most famous (in fact the only mentioned) space flight school is there.

Lave is still a backwater. That's probably why the central authority is there, on Coriolis One, along with the Flight School. You can't put something like that in a powerful system: none of the other powerful systems would agree to it. Lave has "compromise" written all over it.

Old Murgh wrote: ↑Sat Dec 04, 2021 11:20 pm

... of course you may feel totally free to update any of the old OXPs or otherwise make use of the old scraps if they can still hold appeal. It would be very cool for me if something from so long ago could even in a small part manage to survive through the ages, along with the simple and brilliant concept of Oolite...

Seat of the Galactic Co-operative of Worlds.
Part of the Old Worlds.
Located in the south-west of Galaxy 1.

Cholmondely wrote: ↑Tue Feb 22, 2022 1:04 pm

If/when this is eventually updated and posted to the in-game Expansions Manager, it would be nice to include a fuller entry for the P.A.D. from the Library OXP!

The current entry:

Seat of the Galactic Co-operative of Worlds.
Part of the Old Worlds.
Located in the south-west of Galaxy 1.

There are no entries for any other star systems in the P.A.D.