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Re: [UPDATE RELEASE] Xeptatl's Sword OXP
Posted: Sun Jan 09, 2022 2:52 pm
by spara
Cody wrote: ↑Sun Jan 09, 2022 1:22 pm
I'd be interested to see what the broken station looks like (broken, as in missing a chunk by design.)
It's so long ago, I can only remember it was fun/tricky to dock at.
In the latest released version it was the same rock, but with a broken textures for the box in the entrance. Don't know if it at some point was planned to be or even was a different rock with chunk taken off. Thus the broken station can be cobbled from the new station by altering the docking slit or adding some debris or something. I think
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There are two other models that could require some love too, if fancied. Monitor stations are here and there and you see them from time to time so they are priority one. On one mission there is a crashed anaconda and on another there is a crystalloid. Both are sort of one shots, but they are quite outdated nevertheless. I had an idea of using an iceasteroid for the crystalloid, but don't really recall what I did with the wreck. At least I experimented with the current core models, but did it go anywhere. Bugger. It's been too long for one to remember.
Re: [UPDATE RELEASE] Xeptatl's Sword OXP
Posted: Sun Jan 09, 2022 3:04 pm
by Cody
spara wrote: ↑Sun Jan 09, 2022 2:52 pm
In the latest released version it was the same rock...
Ah, I see! Somewhere in the original (the one I was test pilot for) there was a proper station (not a rock). From a very dim memory, it had a central dock and two arms, one of which was broken, but it was still rotating. Perhaps Smivs removed it?
Re: [UPDATE RELEASE] Xeptatl's Sword OXP
Posted: Sun Jan 09, 2022 3:27 pm
by spara
Cody wrote: ↑Sun Jan 09, 2022 3:04 pm
spara wrote: ↑Sun Jan 09, 2022 2:52 pm
In the latest released version it was the same rock...
Ah, I see! Somewhere in the original (the one I was test pilot for) there was a proper station (not a rock). From a very dim memory, it had a central dock and two arms, one of which was broken, but it was still rotating. Perhaps Smivs removed it?
Ah. Maybe we might be talking about the other broken station? That has been unchanged.
Re: [UPDATE RELEASE] Xeptatl's Sword OXP
Posted: Sun Jan 09, 2022 3:49 pm
by Cody
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Re: [UPDATE RELEASE] Xeptatl's Sword OXP
Posted: Mon Jan 10, 2022 12:37 am
by montana05
spara wrote: ↑Sun Jan 09, 2022 2:52 pm
On one mission there is a crashed anaconda and on another there is a crystalloid. Both are sort of one shots, but they are quite outdated nevertheless. I had an idea of using an iceasteroid for the crystalloid, but don't really recall what I did with the wreck. At least I experimented with the current core models, but did it go anywhere. Bugger. It's been too long for one to remember.
I can modify an Anaconda for you, same style as the ship wrecks at SIRF. Regarding the iceasteroid, a design similar to the Quirium Crystal might work.
Re: [UPDATE RELEASE] Xeptatl's Sword OXP
Posted: Mon Jan 10, 2022 9:43 am
by Cody
I think Anaconda nose-cones were used as the spikes on the psychosaucer.
Re: [UPDATE RELEASE] Xeptatl's Sword OXP
Posted: Thu Jan 13, 2022 11:01 pm
by cbr
( ingame gallery, shaders off, difuse map only )
obj to datfile conversion still seem to work.
Re: [UPDATE RELEASE] Xeptatl's Sword OXP
Posted: Fri Jan 14, 2022 12:26 am
by Cholmondely
Impressive!
Re: [UPDATE RELEASE] Xeptatl's Sword OXP
Posted: Sat Jan 15, 2022 1:19 pm
by cbr
So I managed to make a rock, unfortunately docking with a rock doesnot sit well with the ship (bump or bump-boom).
In need of information regarding the dock and station build, which seems scarce...
Re: [UPDATE RELEASE] Xeptatl's Sword OXP
Posted: Sat Jan 15, 2022 1:31 pm
by Cody
From oolite_rock_hermit_dock.dat: model size: 194.688 x 108.567 x 253.500
Is that what you need to know? Or do you need expert information?
Re: [UPDATE RELEASE] Xeptatl's Sword OXP
Posted: Sat Jan 15, 2022 1:43 pm
by montana05
cbr wrote: ↑Sat Jan 15, 2022 1:19 pm
In need of information regarding the dock and station build, which seems scarce...
Did you define a subentity as dock ? You can even design a virtual dock a bit ahead of your bay.
Re: [UPDATE RELEASE] Xeptatl's Sword OXP
Posted: Sat Jan 15, 2022 2:06 pm
by Cody
Ah good - an expert.
Re: [UPDATE RELEASE] Xeptatl's Sword OXP
Posted: Sat Jan 15, 2022 2:26 pm
by cbr
Tried with this / these
1] Dock size used is reasonable 192 64 250
2] Put subentity in front of bay ( position = (0, 0, -300); )
3] Used dock.dat from other oxp to compare behaviour
1 & 2 & 3, boom boom boom
Code: Select all
subentities = ({
subentity_key = "rock-dock";
//orientation = (0, 0, 0, 1);
position = (0, 0, -300);
is_dock = true;
},);
Re: [UPDATE RELEASE] Xeptatl's Sword OXP
Posted: Sat Jan 15, 2022 2:35 pm
by cbr
Ok!
Bump docking with the rockoid...
With a bit of liquid-forum-luck.
My guess would be the role "himsn_station_buoy", that has the word "station" in it, thus Oolite probably sees it as a station.
From cim & spara
Added the word station to its roles and could dock... ( wah
)
Still, a complete station making tutorial has to be somewhere?
Re: [UPDATE RELEASE] Xeptatl's Sword OXP
Posted: Sat Jan 15, 2022 4:46 pm
by spara
Nice work cbr. Really nice. Looking real good.
I'm a bit out of touch, but at least in the past the role of the ship defined what the ship was/does. Role station creates a station. Probably the best tutorial with these sorts of things is the game itself. Look at the config of the native station, including the hermit and figure the workings from there.