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Re: Griff's normalmapped ship remakes
Posted: Sun Sep 20, 2015 5:39 pm
by Griff
@Dizzy - I did used to get email notifications when I first signed up, but that seemed to stop a year or so ago, not sure if it's because I'm using a free account.
I've uploaded nearly all of the shader versions of the 'core' shipset oxps i had over at box into the Oolite oxp manager, there's an extra asteroids oxp and i think an alternative cobra Mk I oxp still to do.
I'll sort out a 'meta oxz' to act as a bundle installer for all of these once i find out how to make one
- is there a guide somewhere here of the boards, i remember them being discussed a while back but i forgot to bookmark the thread.
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Adder http://wiki.alioth.net/img_auth.php/f/f5/Oolite.oxp.Griff.Adder.oxz
Alloys_and_wreckage http://wiki.alioth.net/img_auth.php/0/01/Oolite.oxp.Griff.Alloys_and_wreckage.oxz
Anaconda http://wiki.alioth.net/img_auth.php/b/b6/Oolite.oxp.Griff.Anaconda.oxz
Asp http://wiki.alioth.net/img_auth.php/3/3d/Oolite.oxp.Griff.Asp.oxz
Boa http://wiki.alioth.net/img_auth.php/8/8d/Oolite.oxp.Griff.Boa.oxz
Boa_MkII http://wiki.alioth.net/img_auth.php/c/c0/Oolite.oxp.Griff.Boa_MkII.oxz
Cargopod http://wiki.alioth.net/img_auth.php/7/73/Oolite.oxp.Griff.Cargopod.oxz
Cobra_MkI http://wiki.alioth.net/img_auth.php/7/77/Oolite.oxp.Griff.Cobra_MkI.oxz
Cobra_MkIII http://wiki.alioth.net/img_auth.php/d/dc/Oolite.oxp.Griff.Cobra_MkIII.oxz
Constrictor http://wiki.alioth.net/img_auth.php/f/f3/Oolite.oxp.Griff.Constrictor.oxz
Escape_Capsule http://wiki.alioth.net/img_auth.php/2/22/Oolite.oxp.Griff.Escape_Capsule.oxz
Ferdelance http://wiki.alioth.net/img_auth.php/b/bb/Oolite.oxp.Griff.Ferdelance.oxz
Gecko http://wiki.alioth.net/img_auth.php/4/4e/Oolite.oxp.Griff.Gecko.oxz
Krait http://wiki.alioth.net/img_auth.php/3/3d/Oolite.oxp.Griff.Krait.oxz
Mamba http://wiki.alioth.net/img_auth.php/a/aa/Oolite.oxp.Griff.Mamba.oxz
Mamba_alt_texture http://wiki.alioth.net/img_auth.php/e/e6/Oolite.oxp.Griff.Mamba_alt_texture.oxz
Missiles http://wiki.alioth.net/img_auth.php/4/40/Oolite.oxp.Griff.Missiles.oxz
Moray http://wiki.alioth.net/img_auth.php/7/70/Oolite.oxp.Griff.Moray.oxz
Python http://wiki.alioth.net/img_auth.php/9/98/Oolite.oxp.Griff.Python.oxz
Shuttle http://wiki.alioth.net/img_auth.php/d/d6/Oolite.oxp.Griff.Shuttle.oxz
Sidewinder http://wiki.alioth.net/img_auth.php/9/93/Oolite.oxp.Griff.Sidewinder.oxz
Thargoids http://wiki.alioth.net/img_auth.php/7/7d/Oolite.oxp.Griff.Thargoids.oxz
Transporter http://wiki.alioth.net/img_auth.php/7/7d/Oolite.oxp.Griff.Transporter.oxz
Viper http://wiki.alioth.net/img_auth.php/b/b6/Oolite.oxp.Griff.Viper.oxz
Worm http://wiki.alioth.net/img_auth.php/3/31/Oolite.oxp.Griff.Worm.oxz
and some of the later extra ships are already up, there's one or two more of these to do such as the highpoly cobra III and probably some others lurking up on box somewhre amongst all the odds and sods, need to dig about on box.com a bit more
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Station Bundle http://wiki.alioth.net/img_auth.php/a/a5/Oolite.oxp.Griff.Station_bundle.oxz
Bug (Elite 2) http://wiki.alioth.net/img_auth.php/1/1d/Oolite.oxp.Griff.Bug_%28Elite2%29.oxz
Decals http://wiki.alioth.net/img_auth.php/8/8c/Oolite.oxp.Griff.Griff_shipset_decals.oxz
Gnat http://wiki.alioth.net/img_auth.php/d/dd/Oolite.oxp.Griff.Gnat_%28Elite2%29.oxz
Griffin Mk I http://wiki.alioth.net/img_auth.php/e/ef/Oolite.oxp.Griff.Griffin1_%28Elite2%29.oxz
Hognose http://wiki.alioth.net/img_auth.php/a/ae/Oolite.oxp.Griff.Hognose.oxz
Ophidian http://wiki.alioth.net/img_auth.php/c/c4/Oolite.oxp.Griff.Ophidian_%28EliteA%29.oxz
Wolf Mk II http://wiki.alioth.net/img_auth.php/f/f8/Oolite.oxp.Griff.Wolf_Mk_II.oxz
Viper http://wiki.alioth.net/img_auth.php/b/b6/Oolite.oxp.Griff.Viper.oxz
Viper Interceptor: http://wiki.alioth.net/img_auth.php/d/db/Oolite.oxp.Griff.Viper_Interceptor.oxz
Re: Griff's normalmapped ship remakes
Posted: Sun Sep 20, 2015 5:52 pm
by spara
With compilation (meta) packages you can make the good old replace and addition shipsets. You might want to check my hacks
https://bb.oolite.space/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=17251 for creating a replace set from your ships. If you want, I can also make and maintain meta packages for replace and addition sets after you have uploaded your ships. Just an offer...
Re: Griff's normalmapped ship remakes
Posted: Sun Sep 20, 2015 5:56 pm
by Griff
that would be awesome, I think the least I tinker with stuff that's not polygons and pixels the better
Is there anything you need me to put into the individual ship oxz's to make your work easier?
Re: Griff's normalmapped ship remakes
Posted: Sun Sep 20, 2015 6:23 pm
by spara
Griff wrote:that would be awesome, I think the least I tinker with stuff that's not polygons and pixels the better
Is there anything you need me to put into the individual ship oxz's to make your work easier?
Great, I'll patch something up and we'll make a solid set.
About your individual ship oxzs. Leave all individual suppressors (shipdata-overrides) out. If there are any, I mean.
Roles are a bit of a question mark. I see two sensible options. First option would be to just like_ship the original roles from core templates. That naturally affects the game balance as every variant adds to the current ship type's roles. Another option is to use fractions of core roles for the current ship type based on the number of variants. That way the original ship distribution is replicated. Your call here as I can override the roles from the meta package anyway. If you want to go with the second option, I have already calculated the fractions in my balancer oxp. Just replace the roles of the first ship in individual packages as you have already like_shipped variants from the first one.
Re: Griff's normalmapped ship remakes
Posted: Mon Sep 21, 2015 12:03 am
by Devium
18:59:27.066 [oxz.manager.error]: Downloaded OXZ does not have the same identifer and version as expected. This might be due to your manifests list being out of date - try updating it
I can't seem to download the Viper Interceptor, get the above error in my log. Updated list multiple times, only ship I couldn't get.
Re: Griff's normalmapped ship remakes
Posted: Mon Sep 21, 2015 3:20 am
by Diziet Sma
Griff wrote:@Dizzy - I did used to get email notifications when I first signed up, but that seemed to stop a year or so ago, not sure if it's because I'm using a free account.
Mine is a free account also, and I still receive notifications.
Re: Griff's normalmapped ship remakes
Posted: Mon Sep 21, 2015 2:41 pm
by spara
I have now created "Griff's Normalmapped Ships (Replace)" package and it's available from the manager. It combines together all Griff's core ships, missiles, cargo pods, stations, escape pod and alloys & wreckage as dependencies. It also balances the roles back to core distribution and overrides core ships with Griff's normalmapped ships.
There's one problem though. In every Griff's individual ship there's a shiplibrary file. This causes all ship's to appear twice in ship library. Don't see any simple fix for that other than removing shiplibrary.plist from all individual ships.
It's also practically impossible to create an "Addition" set as long as there's a suppressor in every individual ship. "Griff's Normalmapped Ships (Replace)" already has a suppressor, so those are a bit redundant. Unless someone wants to override just a few ships with normalmapped variants. If there's no need for an "Addition" set, this naturally does not matter.
Re: Griff's normalmapped ship remakes
Posted: Mon Sep 21, 2015 5:59 pm
by Tichy
I can't download Griff Viper and Griff Viper_Interceptor throgh the expansion manager.
For both I get this message in the logfile
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19:55:03.401 [oxz.manager.error]: Downloaded OXZ does not have the same identifer and version as expected. This might be due to your manifests list being out of date - try updating it.
Looks like they are also conflicting with anothe OXZ: Vipers
When it's installed, i get this message in the logfile
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19:57:24.349 [version.debug]: oolite.oxp.Griff.Viper mv:1.04.2 mav:1.3
Re: Griff's normalmapped ship remakes
Posted: Mon Sep 21, 2015 6:26 pm
by spara
Naming could be thought over a bit. I suggest to name ships with Griff prefix so that Adder would become Griff Adder and so on. Just "Adder" is a bit too general IMHO.
Tichy wrote:I can't download Griff Viper and Griff Viper_Interceptor throgh the expansion manager...
Manifest problems aside, I think these are some advanced high poly experimental versions and should probably be named differently. It would be nice though, if these were not conflicting with Viper and could be installed as additional models.
Griff Viper and Viper seem to have the same identifier: "oolite.oxp.Griff.Viper". Now that I have done the meta-package and it depends on IDs, it would be good to change the ID of the experimental model to "oolite.oxp.Griff.Viper_exp" or something. And shipdata in the experimental models entries need to be changed to non-conflicting ones too.
Now that I took a closer look, it seems that Griff Viper is the same as Viper! Unless I'm totally wrong of course.
Re: Griff's normalmapped ship remakes
Posted: Mon Sep 21, 2015 6:50 pm
by Griff
sorry about the bugs guys, i'll get these reuploaded over the next few days, to do:
1 - remove shipdata and shipyard overrides.plist from each oxp
2 - remove shiplibrary.plist from each oxp
3 - rename ships to avoid clashes - not sure what to do here, is this to add Griff into the name key in the manifest.plist or somewhere in the shipdata.plist in each oxp?
4 - role weighting, is there anything i need to do here or does your rebalancing oxp fix this spara?
Re: Griff's normalmapped ship remakes
Posted: Mon Sep 21, 2015 7:05 pm
by spara
Griff wrote:sorry about the bugs guys, i'll get these reuploaded over the next few days, to do:
1 - remove shipdata and shipyard overrides.plist from each oxp
Good. That will simplify things.
Griff wrote:
2 - remove shiplibrary.plist from each oxp
This is good too.
Griff wrote:
3 - rename ships to avoid clashes - not sure what to do here, is this to add Griff into the name key in the manifest.plist or somewhere in the shipdata.plist in each oxp?
Just edit the name in the manifest so that "Adder" becomes "Griff's Adder" and so on. Don't touch the identifiers, if possible. Also check the Griff Viper package, I think you've uploaded the wrong version. You probably meant it to be the viper_alt. Can't check it as your box limit is up, but if it follows your viper_interceptor_alt, it already has unique shipdata keys. I also suggest naming these to something like "Griff Viper Alternative."
Griff wrote:
4 - role weighting, is there anything i need to do here or does your rebalancing oxp fix this spara?
Meta-package fixes them already, so that's fine for me.
And while we're here, to get rid of flashers that come from like_shipping Vipers, you can define subentities like this:
That will nullify the flashers.
Re: Griff's normalmapped ship remakes
Posted: Mon Sep 21, 2015 7:12 pm
by Griff
awesome, thanks for your help with this spara
Yeah, it looks like I accidentally overwrote the vipers oxp, I've amended the highpoly version and re-uploaded it to the wiki and oxz manager
manifest.plist
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{
"identifier" = "oolite.oxp.Griff.Viper_exp";
"required_oolite_version" = "1.80";
"title" = "Griff Viper High Poly version";
"version" = "1.3.1";
"category" = "Ships";
"description" = "High poly model version of the Viper. Requires a video card capable of supporting Oolite Shaders. This oxz includes a 'shipdata-overrides.plist' file that stops the default Viper model from spawning";
"download_url" = "http://wiki.alioth.net/img_auth.php/e/e6/Oolite.oxp.Griff.Viper_exp.oxz";
"author" = "Griff";
"file_size" = "2871000";
"information_url" = "http://wiki.alioth.net/index.php/Griff_Industries";
"license" = "CC-BY-NC-SA 4.0";
"upload_date" = "2015-09-21 21:04:28";
}
I'll sort out the viper interceptor now too....
should be done now - it looked a little bit mangled for some reason, copy and paste error when I was filing out the details on the oxz manager site
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{
"identifier" = "oolite.oxp.Griff.Viper_Interceptor_exp";
"required_oolite_version" = "1.80";
"title" = "Griff Viper Interceptor High Poly version";
"version" = "1.0.3";
"category" = "Ships";
"description" = "Highpoly remake of the Oolite Viper Interceptor. Requires a video card capable of supporting Oolite Shaders";
"download_url" = "http://wiki.alioth.net/img_auth.php/d/db/Oolite.oxp.Griff.Viper_Interceptor.oxz";
"author" = "Griff";
"file_size" = "5263000";
"information_url" = "http://wiki.alioth.net/index.php/Griff_Industries";
"license" = "CC-BY-NC-SA 4.0";
"upload_date" = "2015-09-21 21:34:16";
}
Re: Griff's normalmapped ship remakes
Posted: Tue Sep 22, 2015 2:45 pm
by Duggan
Hello Spara
I have now created "Griff's Normalmapped Ships (Replace)"
Thank you for doing this.
I note however that I seem unable to buy a Military Shield Enhancement and subsequently am unable to buy a Naval Energy Grid for the Boa Class Cruiser I purchased that had as a part of its purchase price A Naval Energy Unit . It might be me , but thought it worth mentioning this. It might be that a Military Sheild Enhancement needs adding to those ships purchaseble in this oxz.
Re: Griff's normalmapped ship remakes
Posted: Tue Sep 22, 2015 4:55 pm
by spara
Duggan wrote:Hello Spara
I have now created "Griff's Normalmapped Ships (Replace)"
Thank you for doing this.
I note however that I seem unable to buy a Military Shield Enhancement and subsequently am unable to buy a Naval Energy Grid for the Boa Class Cruiser I purchased that had as a part of its purchase price A Naval Energy Unit . It might be me , but thought it worth mentioning this. It might be that a Military Sheild Enhancement needs adding to those ships purchaseble in this oxz.
Oh my. Shipyard definitions in Griff's individual ships don't match the current core definitions, which I think they should. I'll fix them via overrides from the Replace package, but that will not help those who use individual packages
.
Griff, could you please fix all shipyard.plist files to match core shipyard definitions? Just copy-paste.
Re: Griff's normalmapped ship remakes
Posted: Tue Sep 22, 2015 5:14 pm
by spara
Updated "Griff's Normalmapped Ships (Replace)" to 1.0.1. Should fix the bug Duggan reported. Could you, Duggan, test it and report back, please?
If you have already downloaded ships, the new replace package is a small download.
Griff, one more thing, could you please add "use strict" to the js-scripts in "Alloys and wreckage" package. It's causing deprecated errors to the log.