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Re: Changing Key Mappings?

Posted: Sun May 02, 2021 8:16 pm
by Cholmondely
I wonder if that
Coyote wrote: Tue Aug 16, 2016 2:08 pm
I didn't do it, nobody saw me do it, you can't prove anything!
chap could come up with a Spanish layout? Do you suppose it would be Spanish, Catalan, Basque or Latin-American?

Re: Changing Key Mappings?

Posted: Sun May 02, 2021 9:02 pm
by hiran
Cholmondely wrote: Sun May 02, 2021 8:16 pm
I wonder if that
Coyote wrote: Tue Aug 16, 2016 2:08 pm
I didn't do it, nobody saw me do it, you can't prove anything!
chap could come up with a Spanish layout? Do you suppose it would be Spanish, Catalan, Basque or Latin-American?
Hmmm, all these input locales (aka keyboard drivers) do not rearrange the keys - they just change the interpretation. Which means they tweak the translation from scan codes (make/break codes) to characters that applications usually work on.

But Oolite works on scan codes so the input locale does not matter. Having one picture per keyboard type is absolutely sufficient. Unless someone modifies that and then might come up with his own mapping.

Re: Changing Key Mappings?

Posted: Sun May 02, 2021 9:06 pm
by hiran
Cholmondely wrote: Sun May 02, 2021 1:34 pm
I think I just now understood the overlay functionality. That picture is meant to be printed, cut, folded, glued and just placed onto the real keyboard!
Really nice idea! _lol_

Re: Changing Key Mappings?

Posted: Sun May 02, 2021 10:15 pm
by Cholmondely
hiran wrote: Sun May 02, 2021 9:06 pm
Cholmondely wrote: Sun May 02, 2021 1:34 pm
I think I just now understood the overlay functionality. That picture is meant to be printed, cut, folded, glued and just placed onto the real keyboard!
Really nice idea! _lol_
That's how it worked with the original Elite. The game for the BBC computer came with an overlay that fitted the keyboard.

See here for overlay: https://www.frontierastro.co.uk/Elite/b ... upTape.jpg - the white strip of card in the bottom right corner. It sat on top of the red function keys - see here: http://wiki.alioth.net/index.php/BBC_Micro

Now you know!

Re: Changing Key Mappings?

Posted: Mon May 03, 2021 6:11 pm
by hiran
Cholmondely wrote: Sun May 02, 2021 1:34 pm
That's how it worked with the original Elite. The game for the BBC computer came with an overlay that fitted the keyboard.

See here for overlay: https://www.frontierastro.co.uk/Elite/b ... upTape.jpg - the white strip of card in the bottom right corner. It sat on top of the red function keys - see here: http://wiki.alioth.net/index.php/BBC_Micro

Now you know!
I have seen such strips - even create some for myself for Paradox for Windows - way later than what you referring to.
The way that BBC micro is built it seems to be asking for strips to be placed on top of the function keys.

But these DIY key caps were really new to me. So easy to create, so easy to rearrange...

Re: Changing Key Mappings?

Posted: Thu Oct 31, 2024 5:53 pm
by ClymAngus
One does try to make life a little easier....
if you can deadicate a pure 'oolite' game keyboard then I've found spaying the overlays with a quick burst of plasticote after their fitted (and before you put the keys back on the keyboard of course!) Gives them a professional lustre and extends their use.
I'll see if I can find the original layered file as different languages would be easy (and it was a little angalo-centric at the time (sorry about that)).

I mean if you were going whole hog on this you could come up with something rather special mapping a button box.

Hell in a pinch I've seen people do some fantastic work with hotwired stream decks. Honestly with 3D printing, a little bit of soldering skill and time (the one commodity that no one has) It's amazing what you could accomplish.

At some point someone will map this game onto a cockpit. That's just humans tinkering. :D

Re: Changing Key Mappings?

Posted: Thu Oct 31, 2024 11:16 pm
by hiran
ClymAngus wrote: Thu Oct 31, 2024 5:53 pm
Hell in a pinch I've seen people do some fantastic work with hotwired stream decks. Honestly with 3D printing, a little bit of soldering skill and time (the one commodity that no one has) It's amazing what you could accomplish.

At some point someone will map this game onto a cockpit. That's just humans tinkering. :D
If has happened/is happening. Just look at

- viewtopic.php?p=297100
- viewtopic.php?p=296825
- viewtopic.php?p=281780

Re: Changing Key Mappings?

Posted: Fri Nov 01, 2024 10:35 am
by ClymAngus
You see this is why I always end up coming back here. Your all a bunch of Mad Mad bastards and I love you all dearly.
Oolite has the kind of infectous technical enthusiasm, I've only really seen with arcade enthusiasts.