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Posted: Wed Mar 28, 2007 5:57 pm
by TGHC
It rocks my socks in or out of water, forward or backwards, up or down, as you rightly say Sel mate ( :roll: ) it looks good, and sooner or later it'll get improved even more when there's a "pimp my Moray star boat competition"

Keep em coming!

Posted: Wed Mar 28, 2007 7:25 pm
by Killer Wolf
I don't know what to do! I like the model as it is, but don't want to lose the accuracy!
just call it the Moray MkII :-)
it could be one of those urban legends (? or is it actually true?) about why the Mini has the seams on the outside ~ because someone read the blueprints backwards. maybe someone at the shipyard loaded the Moray blueprints up the wrong way :-D

Posted: Thu Mar 29, 2007 9:19 am
by Selezen
I had a play with this thing last night. Turning it the right way up raises all sorts of problems.

For one thing, simple hydronamics make the original design a bit shaky. When in water, the shape is top heavy, and the sloping front will have water sloshing up it and will compromise stability and speed.

I'll still do a version, but I'm not happy with the physics. Yeah, I know. It's a fictional universe: get over it Sel...

Posted: Thu Mar 29, 2007 9:29 am
by Flying_Circus
I vote you keep the current skin - since the skin is stuck to the vertices, you could maybe pull them about, a bit, to change the over alll shape, and issue it as a new ship. that way, it's Moray-origins are a little less obvious.

Then you could start out, reskinning the Moray from scratch, knowing what you now do.

I thought you'd put ibn a rear view window, to be honest. I do that on my ships. All the points of view on my models have a corresponding picece of glass that can justify the point of view being displayed.

Posted: Fri Mar 30, 2007 10:09 am
by CaptKev
Going back to the Thargoid ship, how about this type of look?

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Posted: Fri Mar 30, 2007 10:47 am
by JensAyton
The server hosting the image is not responding to HTTP requests.

Posted: Fri Mar 30, 2007 10:52 am
by Commander McLane
I can see the image.

But for the reasons I gave one or two pages ago in this thread it is not to my taste.

Posted: Fri Mar 30, 2007 11:13 am
by TGHC
brilliant texture, not sure it's a thargoid texture, but it would look great on a krait.........

Posted: Fri Mar 30, 2007 11:15 am
by Arexack_Heretic
looks interesting.
Be aware that you need to have octagonal symetry (minimally) in the top texture as well. A squarish texture doesn't look right. :)

Posted: Fri Mar 30, 2007 11:37 am
by Commander McLane
While waiting for my last reply to appear on my screen I incidentally looked to the bb-logo in the top left corner, and I have to say: That's the thargoid I am imagining. (Okay, you perhaps can say my imagination is poor, but still, I like it that way.)

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And BTW: This is my 256th post on this board. So I'm ELITE finally here as well! :D :D :D

Posted: Fri Mar 30, 2007 11:40 am
by JensAyton
Hmm. Coral cache can see it. I may be getting an old DNS record or some such.

Posted: Fri Mar 30, 2007 12:51 pm
by CaptKev
@Ahruman, I'm not experiencing any problems here, I'll try uploading the image again, it might just make a difference.

@AH, I agree with you about the top, it does need something more on the it.

@TGHC, might just give that a try.

@CM, maybe we should just stick with the redux version, just playing with ideas.

Posted: Fri Mar 30, 2007 1:44 pm
by Star Gazer
Hmmm... ...too busy for my taste, I still see it as a shiny shell like 'thing' - I think it needs specularity mapping to make it very reflective surfaced - as if it were something extruded in one piece... ???

Posted: Fri Mar 30, 2007 1:53 pm
by Selezen
The original model Moray:

Image

I just hit on a much more realistic way of doing scratches on the paintwork. Hope you like it.

Regarding the Thargoid, I think we'll leave the texture pretty much as the redux version - I'll just play with the model and see if there's anything nice and subtle that can be done with it to busy it up. Not too much though - the Thargoid seems to have more affection than the Cobra! ;-)

Posted: Fri Mar 30, 2007 2:58 pm
by Selezen
Update: Original design Moray:

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