this is going to show my stupidity

phonebook · Post by **phonebook** » Tue Oct 20, 2009 8:20 am

i have just downloaded oolite mac, where is my shipdata.plist, or any of the others for that matter, all i seem to have is the application!

Post by **Kaks** » Tue Oct 20, 2009 8:54 am

It's all cleverly hidden out of the way, to avoid bothering you with the tedious details....

If you want to change configuration files it's always best if you do so inside the AddOns folder, which will override what's inside Resources

To see Resources, right click the Oolite app (shows the action menu), and you should see something like 'show package contents'... click there, and all will be revealed.

phonebook · Post by **phonebook** » Tue Oct 20, 2009 2:58 pm

does that mean, i can copy my shipdata.plist to my add on folder, make the changes i want to make, then it will over ride whats in the config?

i told you i was going to show plenty of sillyness, i have only had a mac for a week now!

Greyman · Post by **Greyman** » Tue Oct 20, 2009 4:08 pm

phonebook wrote:
... i have only had a mac for a week now!

Very good choice!

And regarding your question: I guess so, since putting a keyconfig.plist inside AddOns/Config works well, too. And there's always the elegant way of the self-made man: Just try it!

Post by **Eric Walch** » Tue Oct 20, 2009 4:21 pm

does that mean, i can copy my shipdata.plist to my add on folder, make the changes i want to make, then it will over ride whats in the config?

You must fist create a Config folder inside addOns. Everything there will overwrite the corresponding things in oolite's internal config folder. The same is true for creating a Texture or Sounds folder in addOns.

i told you i was going to show plenty of sillyness, i have only had a mac for a week now!

Its a bit different than you are used. The mac does not want the average user to change things inside Oolite (or inside oxps). It turns them into packages that are not opened when you just double-click on it. Instead the mac looks for the application inside and opens that.

If you want to look at it as you are used with windows, you must contr-click the oolite icon. This opens a contextual window. One of the menu point is "open Package". It is the item just above the "move to trash". (And it has happened me more than once I choose that one accidently.)
When you try to edit the plists inside this package you'll notice it is all write protected for Oolite, even the copies.

phonebook · Post by **phonebook** » Tue Oct 20, 2009 8:04 pm

yes indeed, i was about to ask about write protection!!!

but i shall try as you suggest and see what happens

Commander McLane · Post by **Commander McLane** » Wed Oct 21, 2009 8:41 am

Disable write protection (only advised for your copies in AddOns/Config, not for the originals):

(1) Highlight the file you want to get access to.

(2) Press APPLE-I to open its information panel.

(3) Change your privileges in the "owner and access" section (or something of the like, it's at the bottom of the info panel) to "read and write".

(4) Close the information panel.

(5) Violà.

goran · Post by **goran** » Wed Oct 21, 2009 1:22 pm

Commander McLane wrote:
(5) Violà.

Sounds nice.

phonebook · Post by **phonebook** » Thu Oct 22, 2009 7:03 am

there is an apple button?? told you i was stupid

Post by **Eric Walch** » Thu Oct 22, 2009 7:30 am

phonebook wrote:
there is an apple button?? told you i was stupid

Only on the first apples like the mac plus. Current macs have often two identical "apple" keys. Probably a sign that they are used often.

Commander McLane · Post by **Commander McLane** » Thu Oct 22, 2009 7:46 am

Eric Walch wrote:
phonebook wrote:
there is an apple button?? told you i was stupid
Only on the first apples like the mac plus. Current macs have often two identical "apple" keys. Probably a sign that they are used often.

You may also find it called CMND or with the other sign printed on it: ⌘.

phonebook · Post by **phonebook** » Fri Oct 23, 2009 6:38 am

aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah!

JensAyton · Post by **JensAyton** » Sat Oct 24, 2009 1:57 pm

Eric Walch wrote:
Current macs have often two identical "apple" keys. Probably a sign that they are used often. :lol:

No current Macs have apples on their Command keys. Clearly you need to upgrade. ;-)

Post by **Eric Walch** » Sat Oct 24, 2009 3:49 pm

Ahruman wrote:
[Clearly you need to upgrade.

You are right, the new keyboard has them labelled as "⌘ cmd". But that keyboard is still in its original box as I liked my 8 years old one much better.

Commander McLane · Post by **Commander McLane** » Sun Oct 25, 2009 10:52 am

Oops! My keyboard is still labelled " ⌘", and the computer is not that old (first generation MacBook Pro).

Actually the apple is hollow, and I seem to remember that a hollow apple used to be available as a character, but I can't find it in my character table. The filled one can be created by ALT-SHIFT-*.