RFC: Fancy classics

Post by **Disembodied** » Mon Jan 12, 2009 2:55 pm

Simon B wrote:
As usual, I have to really push for critique...

If you want more criticism, you should make more mistakes... I find that works for me.

I can see ZygoUgo's point about the difference between V1 and V2, though. The original Viper profile, all hard straight lines, still screams "COP!!" to me. The Interceptor is maybe just a bit too crinkly and fancy. Maybe if it kept the same V1 shape over the cockpit and back to the engine? Just that one hard triangle in the middle might make a difference, and it would make the V2 more obviously the same family as the V1.

Plain metal is fine by me for a texture, although I like the stripes (maybe there's room for a decal or two as well). The green thing will probably alter when it's against a black sky, anyway.

Website · Post by **DaddyHoggy** » Mon Jan 12, 2009 3:11 pm

Given that you're thinking of doing shaders and glows and stuff at some pint then note that Griff did some excellent shiny metallic effects in one of his demo oxps and a shiny metal cop wagon (like most modern UK polic force cars - they have a better resale value than white ones) would look quite good I think...

I agree with the comment on the V2 - it's not triangular enough - I just couldn't think why I didn't like it until it was pointed out.

Commander McLane · Post by **Commander McLane** » Mon Jan 12, 2009 7:03 pm

If you want more criticism: I don't like them!

Although I could probably live with V1. V2 definitely isn't it. But, sorry, V1 isn't it either.

Probably the whole theme is the problem. I really don't see why somebody in the 32nd century should fall back to a design that looks like made from flintstone. (Okay, I misread 'Neolite' as 'Neolithic', yet that somehow captures it.)

JensAyton · Post by **JensAyton** » Mon Jan 12, 2009 7:07 pm

Commander McLane will not rest until he’s got everyone making mirrored eggships. ;-)

Griff · Post by **Griff** » Mon Jan 12, 2009 8:12 pm

very nice stuff, but there's something about the dark burn lines in the interceptor II's texture that, to me, are giving it a bit of a crumpled paper look especially in the top down view - it's probably just the screen shot though as it looks ok in all the other views, I prefer the Neo Viper I though, that looks great!

wackyman465 · Post by **wackyman465** » Mon Jan 12, 2009 11:41 pm

I really like them...

@Lestradae: Legit?

Lestradae · Post by **Lestradae** » Mon Jan 12, 2009 11:52 pm

wackyman465 wrote:
@Lestradae: Legit?

Well. They indeed look gorgeous!

I am usually for as much diversity as I can get - so I would be for inclusion as an additional, alternate shipset as good as always.

Also in this case. That's my 0.02 Cr, and I guess a matter of taste about which you can hardly debate.

Roll out the mirrored egg-ships, I say!

wackyman465 · Post by **wackyman465** » Mon Jan 12, 2009 11:57 pm

I was talking about the thargoid = vogons part. For real = legit.

Lestradae · Post by **Lestradae** » Tue Jan 13, 2009 12:06 am

Sometimes I notice that english is not my mother tongue, this is one of them

Yes, really. "It was only when their ideas were rejected by systems manipulated by galactic corporate strategy that they became belligerent" - in FFE, it turns out that the humans started the war with the Thargoids and when the war ... came to a patt situation, retreated into their own space to avoid having to wipe humanity from the galaxy as a last ressort.

The Thargoids attempted to negotiate a truce, but the translation was also enormously difficult and would only produce bad poetry in the beginning

You are of course the to-be-ELITE hero, who goes out there, kicks some INRA (the secret military society that keeps the abovementioned secret) butt and brokers a peace accord with the Thargoids, which leads to the whole scandal coming out amongst much face loosing.

And the Thargs give you a Thargoid Warship in the end

It could jump 680 LYs in one go

Eat some more icebergs, poets!

</bad poetry>

L

wackyman465 · Post by **wackyman465** » Tue Jan 13, 2009 12:10 am

Well I shouldn't have expected middle-aged austrians to understand recent eastern US slang...

Lestradae · Post by **Lestradae** » Tue Jan 13, 2009 12:12 am

wackyman465 wrote:
... middle-aged ...

Be careful what you're saying. Very very careful

wackyman465 · Post by **wackyman465** » Tue Jan 13, 2009 12:13 am

oop!

(noise made by throat slammed against wall by virtual arm)

Lestradae · Post by **Lestradae** » Tue Jan 13, 2009 12:17 am

wackyman465 · Post by **wackyman465** » Tue Jan 13, 2009 12:59 am

Now I have to kill you at 60 to make my statement true...

ClymAngus · Post by **ClymAngus** » Tue Jan 13, 2009 7:13 am

Commander McLane wrote:
If you want more criticism: I don't like them!

Although I could probably live with V1. V2 definitely isn't it. But, sorry, V1 isn't it either.

Probably the whole theme is the problem. I really don't see why somebody in the 32nd century should fall back to a design that looks like made from flintstone. (Okay, I misread 'Neolite' as 'Neolithic', yet that somehow captures it.)

That's the point, it's psychology..... no one is scared of an airy fairy manga ship. You want something that looks like it has the punch of an arrow head. It's supposed to make people think twice, give an air of authority, of lethality.

I like them they look like tanks, they look like any one crossing them is in deep trouble. Bravo.