Lovecats - stuck!

JohnnyBoy · Post by **JohnnyBoy** » Mon Jul 14, 2008 9:56 am

DaddyHoggy wrote:
From memory - even if you pull an OXP the data remains saved in your save file, so when you re-install "Lovecats" the mission will continue from where you left off/

I'll be in Galaxy 5 by then, looking for my cloaking device...

Website · Post by **DaddyHoggy** » Mon Jul 14, 2008 10:01 am

@JB - it'll still be there lurking, waiting for you to come full circle...

JohnnyBoy · Post by **JohnnyBoy** » Mon Jul 14, 2008 10:05 am

DaddyHoggy wrote:
@JB - it'll still be there lurking, waiting for you to come full circle...

Very good, DH.....

Erai · Post by **Erai** » Mon Dec 15, 2008 2:45 pm

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So... well, couple of questions for those who have done this mission before (and maybe johnsmith

)
1: Did I miss any obvious clues? (am I even searching at the correct planet?)
2: Is it possible that Romeo simply crashed on the planet before I was able to get to him?
3: Is there any other way to locate him?

Or could my installation of Oolite be messing with this scenario? (it's been displaying some funky behaviour lately: in the UPS-missions, no "pick up" screen appears on the destination and the mission does not end; the advanced space compass only displays N,W,C and F, but no hacker outposts, rock hermits, etc; also, "Save Commander" results in the game resetting to "Strict Gameplay" instead of saving)

Post by **another_commander** » Mon Dec 15, 2008 2:56 pm

Erai, which version of the game are you using? The reset to strict mode when saving bug was resolved long ago.

Erai · Post by **Erai** » Mon Dec 15, 2008 3:24 pm

another_commander wrote:
Erai, which version of the game are you using? The reset to strict mode when saving bug was resolved long ago.

Not sure, but I think it was 1.65
So I'd better start by looking for a newer version then

LittleBear · Post by **LittleBear** » Mon Dec 15, 2008 3:29 pm

Yep. I've hit that bug on 1.65. Somtimes when a mision variable is changed it causes the save file to always reset to strict gameplay. I don't think there is a work around on 1.65 and the save file always does this making the commander unplayable on 1.65. Think you'd have to update! Its worth doing anyway as there's a lot of fun new stuff in the test releases.

Post by **Eric Walch** » Mon Dec 15, 2008 3:40 pm

Erai wrote:
So... well, couple of questions for those who have done this mission before (and maybe johnsmith )
1: Did I miss any obvious clues? (am I even searching at the correct planet?)
2: Is it possible that Romeo simply crashed on the planet before I was able to get to him?
3: Is there any other way to locate him?

Read here:

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Erai · Post by **Erai** » Tue Dec 16, 2008 5:04 pm

And that was indeed the trick, thanks

. Got him in one go, fortunately.

Erai · Post by **Erai** » Wed Dec 17, 2008 2:47 pm

One last thing- this may be not be specifically for lovecats, but:

Part 2 of the storyline did not initialize correctly. The mission text did appear, along with the accept/decline buttons. Straight after accepting, however, the "Red Alert" screen from the thargoid wars oxp popped up. I accepted that one as well and had my little tussle with the thargoids.

After docking again I noticed that the lovecats mission did not appear in the mission list. For all certainty I went to the destination anyway, but nothing happened there. So possibly one oxp can cause another oxp to "trip"?

Post by **Eric Walch** » Wed Dec 17, 2008 5:22 pm

The launch action is bad for a lot of code. Many oxp's are not anticipating this exception. Both oxp's still have a bug because both could have additional code to prevent this. Thargoid wars should not offer a screen when there is still a pending choice to be read in and lovecats should write its offering in a way that it can recover from such occasions. Now you probably have somewhere in your save file the words: mission_wedding STAGE98. If yes, changing it to mission_wedding STAGE4 will set it back one level so you will get the offer again.

In both oxp's I put already code to make them more compatible. But I think I should add more code so every exception is handled. Specially the thargoid screen where the station attack is announced should only be offered when there is no active choice to be read out. In UPS I have used all these checks together but almost no other oxp's do all these checks. I have no intention to make lovecats more secure as this would require rewriting part of it, but adding the check missionChoice_string undefined at the right places in thargoid wars would be no great effort.

Problem is just that there are also oxp's that don't clear their choice after having it read out. This bad code than blocks the offers from other oxp's that wait indefinitely until the choice was cleared.

biffa · Post by **biffa** » Thu Jan 21, 2010 1:33 pm

Hi everyone

for those who need any help with finding the asp heres a snap shot of it!

SPOILER IF U CLICK LINK

http://img638.imageshack.us/img638/8820/asplovecats.png

I have allready done this mission on the older type of oolite but have started all over again with the 1.73 game installer.2 times i have found the asp and 2 times i have lost or killed the dude,after this post it will be 3rd time lucky.

JQW · Post by **JQW** » Thu Jan 21, 2010 11:05 pm

I tried the OXP with the current version a few days ago. Although I was able to shoot down the ship, something went wrong in the transition to an escape capsule. It registered on the scanner as a white dot, but was still shown on the main display as an Asp, albeit one moving like an escape capsule. Consequentially I wasn't able to scoop the thing up.

I presume it was an incompatibility with another OXP, but as I've got many installed I'm not sure which one it was.

In the end I just removed the Love Cats OXP and edited all references to it out of the save file.

JazHaz · Post by **JazHaz** » Fri Jan 22, 2010 5:02 pm

Eric Walch has today released a new version of Love Cats, to v.1.2.1. See the Love Cats OXP wiki page.

Don't know if it will fix your problem. Surprised he's not posted on here!

Post by **Eric Walch** » Fri Jan 22, 2010 9:11 pm

JazHaz wrote:
Don't know if it will fix your problem. Surprised he's not posted on here!

I have been posting here but deleted again. I was worried that mentioning the minor fixes would give spoilers.

I tripled the energy of the escape pod to lower the change it destroys when hitting the asp after killing it. In general when a pilot leaves a ship in a escape pod, it leaves the empty ship back as cargo, so it could be normal seeing the asp as cargo. The other fix is to make finding the asp more predictable. Due to randomness it could happen that is was placed at a position were the player could impossible find him. Only jumping in and out of the system helped here. However I don't think Johnsmith mend it to be this difficult. I think he was just less familiar with the newer code, that was added in oolite 1.47, to add ships more precisely.

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