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Let me first say I'm sorry for my pedantism.
The in-game picture shows very well another general issue with planet textures. You beautifully see the edge, where the left and right edge of the PNG are glued together on the planet surface. It's like a seam that breaks the texture.
In order to avoid this, planetary textures should always be like tiles in the horizontal direction, so that the left edge fits perfectly and seamless to the right edge. (Not so, however, for the top and bottom edge, which should create the illusion of a polar area, because they are deformed and transformed into one pixel only.)
See the textures I have posted above as an example. They are seamless.
The in-game picture shows very well another general issue with planet textures. You beautifully see the edge, where the left and right edge of the PNG are glued together on the planet surface. It's like a seam that breaks the texture.
In order to avoid this, planetary textures should always be like tiles in the horizontal direction, so that the left edge fits perfectly and seamless to the right edge. (Not so, however, for the top and bottom edge, which should create the illusion of a polar area, because they are deformed and transformed into one pixel only.)
See the textures I have posted above as an example. They are seamless.
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Commander McLane's right, painting out the seam makes a whole world of difference (no pun intended) to the finished planet texture. It's quite easy to do, just swap the left & right positions of the two halves of your texture map so the seam now runs down the middle of the image. now just grab your painting tools and paint it out!
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Captkev,
It looks great. Can you do mod my texture so that it is indeed seemless?
I have some more textures btw:
a very stormy planet
and a Ice/mountain planet
It looks great. Can you do mod my texture so that it is indeed seemless?
I have some more textures btw:
a very stormy planet
and a Ice/mountain planet
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Commander Mclane,
You are right. I did lost myself to much in texturing and forgot to make it seamless. The new textures I have will be seamless. I'il do it with Photoshop CS.
You are right. I did lost myself to much in texturing and forgot to make it seamless. The new textures I have will be seamless. I'il do it with Photoshop CS.
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What did, by the way, happen to the Skyscraper planet and Borg City planet textures?
Perhaps they could be used for alien High-Tech worlds? And I happened to like them
Just saying
L
Perhaps they could be used for alien High-Tech worlds? And I happened to like them
Not nescessarily - assume the guys living down there are "Blue insects" or "Bony green birds" - perhaps they would like to live in a self-created hive mind environment, i.e.?I am pretty sure that the rich inhabitants of a rich industrial world would prefer to live not in a giant industrial area, but somewhere where there is at least a little green. Don't you think so?
Just saying
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That's true.
My point is, however, that the inhabitants of a rich industrial world who can afford it, most likely would prefer to live in an environment that suits not only their needs but is also pleasant to them.
Of course what seems pleasant to you depends on who you are. But my guess is that for most races in Oolite a planet completely transformed into an industrial plant would not be a pleasant natural environment.
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To make things more complicated: Perhaps we should not only take the planet's economy into consideration for texturing it, but also its description string (meaning it has to be done by hand). Just imagine you see a planet with this industrial texture on the F7-screen, and below you read that it is "fabled for its vast rain forests".
My point is, however, that the inhabitants of a rich industrial world who can afford it, most likely would prefer to live in an environment that suits not only their needs but is also pleasant to them.
Of course what seems pleasant to you depends on who you are. But my guess is that for most races in Oolite a planet completely transformed into an industrial plant would not be a pleasant natural environment.
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To make things more complicated: Perhaps we should not only take the planet's economy into consideration for texturing it, but also its description string (meaning it has to be done by hand). Just imagine you see a planet with this industrial texture on the F7-screen, and below you read that it is "fabled for its vast rain forests".
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The rain forests could be under the City Skin (as in Asimov's Trantor in the Foundation Series). Only the top people of the Empire lived on Trantor and very pleasent it was too! Temperature, Climate etc were all artifically controlled under the Skin. Because these people had lived in Cities for centuries before the whole planet was enclosed they were terrified of "the outside". - "What you mean it might rain on me unexpectedly? - Arrgh the horror!" What an argirgultual race might consider pleasent might not be at all pleasent for the mega-urbanites of a Trantor type world! If you are born and live out your life under the City Skin, being in a non-enclosed area would feel wired and disturbing.
EDIT : Hand Coding would be a bit much! But somthing like Tech =14, Gov = Rich Industrial, planetnumber lessthan 100 do use trantor1, (with trantor2 /3 or whatever used for other planetnumber combinations) would give good variety without having to hand code every system.
EDIT : Hand Coding would be a bit much! But somthing like Tech =14, Gov = Rich Industrial, planetnumber lessthan 100 do use trantor1, (with trantor2 /3 or whatever used for other planetnumber combinations) would give good variety without having to hand code every system.
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All true and good points, but it wouldn't hurt, on some industrial textures, to have a few splashes of green here and there: small, clipped, and in some sort of geometric enclosed space. Could be parkland or pleasure-domes or nature reserves. I'd keep them under tight control, though: after all, "vast" is a relative term! In Scotland someone might talk about Rannoch Moor being "a vast stretch of MAMBA country" (miles and miles of bugger all); whereas to an Australian, it would just be a back garden...
Sorry I haven't got back to you sooner but I've been very busy this morning.
I've uploaded a new screen grab of the slightly modified texture (see above).
I've uploaded a new screen grab of the slightly modified texture (see above).
Download Fighter HUD, Stingray and System Redux from the EliteWiki
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McLane,
Very good point. But is that possible? (Tech level or description vs the texture applied to the planet.?
Very good point. But is that possible? (Tech level or description vs the texture applied to the planet.?
For P.A. Groove's music check
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https://bb.oolite.space/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=13709
https://soundcloud.com/p-a-groove
Famous Planets v 2.7. (for Povray)
https://bb.oolite.space/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=13709
- pagroove
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I know the city planet is grey. But is was inspired by Corusant form Star Wars. I thought of placing some Biodomes on the surface
For P.A. Groove's music check
https://soundcloud.com/p-a-groove
Famous Planets v 2.7. (for Povray)
https://bb.oolite.space/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=13709
https://soundcloud.com/p-a-groove
Famous Planets v 2.7. (for Povray)
https://bb.oolite.space/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=13709
- pagroove
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A hurricane/storm planet. I think the winds are well in excess of 500 km here
mmm nice weather
For P.A. Groove's music check
https://soundcloud.com/p-a-groove
Famous Planets v 2.7. (for Povray)
https://bb.oolite.space/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=13709
https://soundcloud.com/p-a-groove
Famous Planets v 2.7. (for Povray)
https://bb.oolite.space/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=13709
- pagroove
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An Ice and mountainplanet. With a city
CaptKev. Should I send you also these textures?
For P.A. Groove's music check
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Famous Planets v 2.7. (for Povray)
https://bb.oolite.space/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=13709
https://soundcloud.com/p-a-groove
Famous Planets v 2.7. (for Povray)
https://bb.oolite.space/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=13709