Automated docking with moving vessels

General discussion for players of Oolite.

Moderators: winston, another_commander

Post Reply
Dunk
Poor
Poor
Posts: 7
Joined: Wed Aug 08, 2007 2:00 pm

Automated docking with moving vessels

Post by Dunk »

I'm having some hassle performing an automated docking with Behemoths and Dredgers. I get to within a few km of them, line myself up nicely with the bay and then hit Shift-C. I get the messages from the vessel saying that they're preparing for my arrival and then, as far as I can tell, they go evasive on me - looping and then simply flying away. Last night I saw a Behemoth heading away from a planet and requested, and was granted, a docking slot. Sure enough, my autopilot slammed on the anchors and the behomoth turned tail and ran back to the planet. Was it something I said? I'm clean, using version 1.65 (PC), flying one of the dream team Moray Medical Boats, good sense of humour...
User avatar
Commander McLane
---- E L I T E ----
---- E L I T E ----
Posts: 9520
Joined: Thu Dec 14, 2006 9:08 am
Location: a Hacker Outpost in a moderately remote area
Contact:

Post by Commander McLane »

Hi, Dunk!

The docking computer is not very reliable, I'm afraid. Often it's safer to dock manually.
User avatar
Cmdr Wyvern
---- E L I T E ----
---- E L I T E ----
Posts: 1649
Joined: Tue Apr 11, 2006 1:47 am
Location: Somewhere in the great starry void

Post by Cmdr Wyvern »

You've heard of Murphy's Law?

Mr Murphy lives on, as a ghost lurking in the docking computer's operating system. :P
Running Oolite buttery smooth & rock stable w/ tons of eyecandy oxps on:
ASUS Prime X370-A
Ryzen 5 1500X
16GB DDR4 3200MHZ
128GB NVMe M.2 SSD (Boot drive)
1TB Hybrid HDD (For software and games)
EVGA GTX-1070 SC
1080P Samsung large screen monitor
User avatar
TGHC
---- E L I T E ----
---- E L I T E ----
Posts: 2157
Joined: Mon Jan 31, 2005 4:16 pm
Location: Berkshire, UK

Post by TGHC »

Manual docking is the best way, but takes a bit of practice. If you are a sadist, then try docking by parking yourself in front and let it swallow you whole. (it's easier head on, but if you want to be really flash point yourself in the same direction and use your rear view.)
The Grey Haired Commander has spoken!
OK so I'm a PC user - "you know whats scary? Out of billions of sperm I was the fastest"
User avatar
Eric Walch
Slightly Grand Rear Admiral
Slightly Grand Rear Admiral
Posts: 5536
Joined: Sat Jun 16, 2007 3:48 pm
Location: Netherlands

Post by Eric Walch »

I'm having some hassle performing an automated docking with Behemoths and Dredgers. I get to within a few km of them, line myself up nicely with the bay and then hit Shift-C. I get the messages from the vessel saying that they're preparing for my arrival and then, as far as I can tell, they go evasive on me - looping and then simply flying away. Last night I saw a Behemoth heading away from a planet and requested, and was granted, a docking slot. Sure enough, my autopilot slammed on the anchors and the behomoth turned tail and ran back to the planet. Was it something I said? I'm clean, using version 1.65
I have docked them several times with no problem. After docking request, they halt and start the docking sequence. So I looked at the Intelligence file of those ships. Both are identical. According to the script they halt if docked as you noticed, but they keep searching for enemies. If they see one they decide that your docking has no priority and first make sure the enemy is terminated. That is OK as this is the main function of these ships: Clear the space from offenders. You are just a little ship in his thoughts.

As said by others manual docking is saver as it is faster. And it is better for improving your flying skills. But start the auto docking sequence as it will bring those ships to a halt and then abort the auto docking and do it manually.
User avatar
Arexack_Heretic
Dangerous Subversive Element
Dangerous Subversive Element
Posts: 1876
Joined: Tue Jun 07, 2005 7:32 pm
Location: [%H] = Earth surface, Lattitude 52°10'58.19"N, longtitude 4°30'0.25"E.
Contact:

Post by Arexack_Heretic »

maybe adding a small commsmessage would be prudent...

"Enemy presence detected, docking requests suspended untill further notice"

...but I'm not sure whether the docking-state is accesible from the AI.
Riding the Rocket!
chaos syndrome
Above Average
Above Average
Posts: 30
Joined: Thu Jun 28, 2007 2:19 pm

Post by chaos syndrome »

Is there a way to stop the docking computer sequence? You could turn the system off on the BBC version.

(What about instant-docking for other objects than space stations?)
User avatar
LittleBear
---- E L I T E ----
---- E L I T E ----
Posts: 2882
Joined: Tue Apr 04, 2006 7:02 pm
Location: On a survey mission for GalCop. Ship: Cobra Corvette: Hidden Dragon Rated: Deadly.

Post by LittleBear »

C turns it off.
OXPS : The Assassins Guild, Asteroid Storm, The Bank of the Black Monks, Random Hits, The Galactic Almanac, Renegade Pirates can be downloaded from the Elite Wiki here.
chaos syndrome
Above Average
Above Average
Posts: 30
Joined: Thu Jun 28, 2007 2:19 pm

Post by chaos syndrome »

Ah thanks for that. I'd assumed that because the BBC version used different keys for turning the computer off and on, Oolite would do also.
User avatar
Commander McLane
---- E L I T E ----
---- E L I T E ----
Posts: 9520
Joined: Thu Dec 14, 2006 9:08 am
Location: a Hacker Outpost in a moderately remote area
Contact:

Post by Commander McLane »

Arexack_Heretic wrote:
maybe adding a small commsmessage would be prudent...

"Enemy presence detected, docking requests suspended untill further notice"

...but I'm not sure whether the docking-state is accesible from the AI.
Well, you don't need to access the docking-state. Just put it in all the ATTACKED- and INCOMING_MISSILE-message-states. Then the message is sent regardless if anybody actually attempts to dock, but, hey, it's just an automatized message.
Post Reply