How to check which device is primed inflight ?

[Lone_Wolf]

I have 4 primable devices installed. two do show a message on screen when primed with shift+n , the other 2 don't .

The auxiliary fuel tank from  ExtraFuelTanks and turret toggler  Turret Toggler are the problem ones.


Is there a way to verify which device is primed during flight ?
Note: my current hud doesn't support MFDs.

[Cholmondely]

I have 4 primable devices installed. two do show a message on screen when primed with shift+n , the other 2 don't .

The auxiliary fuel tank from  ExtraFuelTanks and turret toggler  Turret Toggler are the problem ones.


Is there a way to verify which device is primed during flight ?
Note: my current hud doesn't support MFDs.

Several HUDs just print this on the screen: try  Vimana-X HUD (javascript?) &  CB-HUD Mark III (HUD.plist)

[Wildeblood]

Is there a way to verify which device is primed during flight ?
Note: my current hud doesn't support MFDs.

It's now a HUD dial, copy/paste the dial from the standard HUD file to whatever you're using.

[Cholmondely]

Here's the code from the CB-HUD Mk III's HUD.plist (the entire HUD is in OpenStep apart from the HUDSelector linkage):

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//----------------------------------------------------------
//      P R I M E D   E Q U I P M E N T   I N D I C A T O R
//----------------------------------------------------------
        
        {//P R I M E D   E Q U I P M E N T   I N D I C A T O R  C A R O U S E L
            selector = "drawPrimedEquipment:";
            n_bars = 3;
            height = 11.0;
            width = 10.0;
            x = 158.0;
            y = -163.0;
            x_origin = 0;
            y_origin = 0;
            align = 0;
            color = (1.0, 0.0, 0.0, 1.0);
            alpha = 0.8;
            alert_conditions= 14; //do not show in the dock
            viewscreen_only = 1;
        },
        {//P R I M E D  E Q U I P M E N T  I N D I C A T O R  C A R O U S E L  S U R R O U N D
            selector = "drawSurround:"; height = 8.0; width = 98.0; x = 208.0; y = -167;
            x_origin = 0; y_origin = 0; color = (0.0, 0.8, 0.0, 1.0); alpha = 0.8;
            alert_conditions = 14; viewscreen_only = 1; //not shown in dock and noviewscreens
        },
        {//P R I M E D  E Q U I P M E N T  I N D I C A T O R  C A R O U S E L  S U R R O U N D
            selector = "drawSurround:"; height = 7.0; width = 99.0; x = 208.0; y = -167;
            x_origin = 0; y_origin = 0; color = (0.0, 0.8, 0.0, 1.0); alpha = 0.8;
            alert_conditions = 14; viewscreen_only = 1; //not shown in dock and noviewscreens
        },

It looks like this (in green, on the right-hand side: "Waypoint Here" selected):

[Lone_Wolf]

Adding (or replacing) a dial with selector=drawPrimedEquipment: does seem to be a good improvement.

I've done some more checking and found using shift+n does print a message (right of centre of screen) but not always .

After viewing contracts on galcop bulletin board (F4) messages after launch including shift+n messages are printed on the bottom left of the hud instead.

Removing the "Contracts on Bulletin Board" expansion 1.12 does solve the issue.

[phkb]

After viewing contracts on galcop bulletin board (F4) messages after launch including shift+n messages are printed on the bottom left of the hud instead.

Removing the "Contracts on Bulletin Board" expansion 1.12 does solve the issue.

Although Contracts on BB doesn't do anything to the HUD - it doesn't have a custom HUD, and doesn't turn the HUD on or off. The Bulletin Board itself has a custom HUD it uses when the current player HUD doesn't support a big GUI, but all Contracts on BB does is move contracts onto the BB.

I'll have a look at the BB and see if I can make it *not* restore the player HUD correctly.

[Lone_Wolf]

I may have been to direct / not clear enough in previous posts in this and the bulletin board systems thread.

I wanted to share an observation about oolite 1.91.0.7687 , revision 8ce1b1a0f on my archlinux system.

The observation is :
Accessing default F4 cargo contracts screen and leaving it has no effect on my MilHUD 4 .

When Contracts on BB is installed, accessing the combined contracts screen and leaving it does affect my hud.
This suggests there is a discrepancy between the behaviour of default F4 contract screen and the bullewtin board system combined screen.

At this point in time there are way to many variables to determine what causes this.

Thank you for looking into this, phkb.

[phkb]

Are you using HUD selector, or do you just have Milhud4000 installed?

[Lone_Wolf]

HUD selector is not present. My HUD is a tweaked version of MilHUD 4, I uploaded it to https://app.box.com/s/t5s01wmg7kbbjn5h508vmskr9lqp87fw .

Below is my latest.log with all expansions listed.

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Opening log for Oolite version 1.91 (x86-64 test release) under Linux 6.15.9-arch1-1 at 2025-08-05 12:16:01 +0200.
AMD Ryzen Threadripper 1920X 12-Core Processor  24 processors detected. System RAM: 15862 MB (free: 12119 MB).
Build options: OpenAL, GLSL shaders, new planets, JavaScript console support, OXP verifier, localization tools, debug GraphViz support, JavaScript profiling.

Note that the contents of the log file can be adjusted by editing logcontrol.plist.

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12:16:01.605 [display.mode.list.native]: X11 native resolution detected: 2560 x 1440
12:16:01.605 [display.initGL]: Trying 8-bpcc, 24-bit depth buffer
12:16:01.730 [gamma.set.failed]: ----- WARNING: Could not set gamma: That operation is not supported
12:16:01.730 [display.initGL]: Achieved color / depth buffer sizes (bits):
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12:16:01.822 [rendering.opengl.shader.support]: Shaders are supported.
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12:16:01.984 [MSAA.setup]: Multisample anti-aliasing not requested.
12:16:02.018 [shipData.load.begin]: Loading ship data.
12:16:02.336 [script.javascript.init]: JavaScript reset successful.
12:16:02.533 [display.initGL]: Requested a new surface of 2560 x 1440, fullscreen.
12:16:02.637 [display.initGL]: Created a new surface of 2560 x 1440, fullscreen.
12:16:02.647 [startup.complete]: ========== Loading complete in 1.40 seconds. ==========
12:16:14.290 [exit.context]: Exiting: Exit Game selected on start screen.
12:16:14.354 [gameController.exitApp]: .GNUstepDefaults synchronized.

Closing log at 2025-08-05 12:16:14 +0200.

[Wildeblood]

It's less about what is present, than what is not. Does your HUD (in every file) have definitions for positioning commslog, console messages, MFDs. If not they'll be left wherever the previous HUD positioned them.

[Lone_Wolf]

MFDs : none defined (I think they didn't exist when the hud was designed)

comm_log_gui & message_gui are defined in hud.plist, but not in milhudblank.plist, milhudcrit.plist, milhudgreen.plist, milhudred.plist and milhudyellow.plist .

[phkb]

comm_log_gui & message_gui are defined in hud.plist, but not in milhudblank.plist, milhudcrit.plist, milhudgreen.plist, milhudred.plist and milhudyellow.plist .

And that's why there's an issue.

I've just released v2.8 of the BB System, which you can download here if you like: BulletinBoardSystem_2.8.oxz (although it will be in the manager shortly) and let me know if that fixes the issue for you.

[Lone_Wolf]

Downloaded and installed.
Accessing & leaving combined contract screen using menu options doesn't affect comm log & messages anymore.

When hitting F1 from combined contracts screen, comm log & messages are still messed up on launch .
This is clearly an edge case that doesn't happen often.

[phkb]

OK, v2.9 should fix that. Should be in the manager shortly.