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Re: Loadout by Category

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phkb wrote: Sun May 18, 2025 2:20 am
Krager wrote: Sat May 17, 2025 7:10 pm

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RUS_LoadoutByCategory_190 v1.3.3.oxz
Can you send me a copy of this to examine?
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Re: Loadout by Category

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Krager wrote: Mon May 19, 2025 10:34 am
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Thanks for that. I've had a look, and I'm afraid I'm even more confused.

I added this version of the mod to my 1.90 setup and put English labels back into the header items so I could read things on my setup, and here's what I get in the F3 screen:
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The "ARMOUR" item is definitely there (the Russian text is "Броня", which according to Google is definitely "Armour" in Russian), and the External Heat Shield item is there as well, under the Amour heading.

So I'm really confused! I'm certainly not denying you're seeing an issue. But with the information I have at hand at the moment, I'm at a loss to explain it.

Given the translation work has been done, and really the only thing visible in game are the equipment headings and associated descriptions (basically, just the equipment.plist file), I might try to put together a new version of the Russian translation mods for you to try. It might take me a couple of days, though.
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Re: Loadout by Category

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phkb wrote: Mon May 19, 2025 12:22 pm
Krager wrote: Mon May 19, 2025 10:34 am
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Thanks for that. I've had a look, and I'm afraid I'm even more confused.
Given the translation work has been done, and really the only thing visible in game are the equipment headings and associated descriptions (basically, just the equipment.plist file), I might try to put together a new version of the Russian translation mods for you to try. It might take me a couple of days, though.
Скачал с официального сайта "LoadoutByCategory_190" версия 1.3.6.

Весь список пунктов:

•• Fuel ••
•• General/Miscellaneous ••
•• Navigation ••
•• Laser Weapons ••
•• Pylon Weapons ••
•• Energy ••
•• Defensive ••
•• Shields ••
•• Targeting ••
Здесь должен быть "•• Armour ••", его нет.
•• Scanners ••
•• M.F.D.s ••
•• Cargo/Mining ••
•• Laser Mount Switching System ••
•• Towbar and Accessories ••
Здесь должен быть "•• Self-Repair System ••", его нет.
•• Escorts/Fighters ••
•• Documentation ••
•• Illicit ••
Здесь должен быть "•• Second-Hand Equipment ••", его нет.
Здесь должен быть "•• Weaponry ••", его нет.
Здесь должен быть "•• Berths/Weaponry ••", его нет.

Вот два скриншота, между ними должна быть броня.
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Re: Loadout by Category

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Krager wrote: Mon May 19, 2025 3:35 pm
Здесь должен быть "•• Weaponry ••", его нет.
Здесь должен быть "•• Berths/Weaponry ••", его нет.
Well, in those two instances, you shouldn't see them on the F3 screen. They will only show up on the F5 Status screen.

But for the others, I'm at a loss.

I can only imagine that something else is getting in the way or messing things up somehow. Can I get you to try this: In a vanilla version of Oolite, with the Russian font file only (is that in the "RUS_RussianTranslation v6.oxz"?), add in the Russian Loadout by Category, just to see if the problem goes away if nothing else is installed. That may lead us to where the problem might lie.
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Re: Loadout by Category

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phkb wrote: Mon May 19, 2025 9:59 pm
Krager wrote: Mon May 19, 2025 3:35 pm

I can only imagine that something else is getting in the way or messing things up somehow. Can I get you to try this: In a vanilla version of Oolite, with the Russian font file only (is that in the "RUS_RussianTranslation v6.oxz"?), add in the Russian Loadout by Category, just to see if the problem goes away if nothing else is installed. That may lead us to where the problem might lie.


Проверил, всё то же самое. Пункта нет.
Хотя не критично, так тоже очень красиво, хоть какой то порядок.

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I checked, it's the same. There's no item.
It's not critical though, it's also very nice, at least some order.
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Krager wrote: Tue May 20, 2025 10:39 am
I checked, it's the same. There's no item.
It's not critical though, it's also very nice, at least some order.
If that's happening, though, that means there's something in the base translation OXP that's messing with the equipment items. Can you send me a link to that item so I can debug from my end?
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phkb wrote: Tue May 20, 2025 12:26 pm
Krager wrote: Tue May 20, 2025 10:39 am
I checked, it's the same. There's no item.
It's not critical though, it's also very nice, at least some order.
If that's happening, though, that means there's something in the base translation OXP that's messing with the equipment items. Can you send me a link to that item so I can debug from my end?
Дело в том, что я ставил для проверки вообще без всех модулей, включая и перевод. Оригинальная игра и оригинальное английское дополнение. Armour так и не появился.
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Re: Loadout by Category

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:shock: :shock: :shock:
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Um, right. Well, I'm just going to be ... over there... doin' stuff....

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Re: Loadout by Category

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Ahem. Version 1.4 should be in the manager in a minute or two.

So, I'd been moving things around, and forgot to check the condition script. There were conditions that essentially removed the "Armour" item if you didn't have IronHide armour or Hard Ships installed, even though I'd put other things into the section.
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Re: Loadout by Category

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phkb wrote: Wed May 21, 2025 7:08 am
Ahem. Version 1.4 should be in the manager in a minute or two.

So, I'd been moving things around, and forgot to check the condition script. There were conditions that essentially removed the "Armour" item if you didn't have IronHide armour or Hard Ships installed, even though I'd put other things into the section.
Всё появилось, работает отлично)
Подскажите такой вопрос, а можно добавить в ваше дополнение, чтобы оно ещё страницу F4 захватывало? Например сделать раскраску по категориям. Например корабельные системы - зелёные (или сами категории раскрасить) . А то на F4 уже 5 страниц сплошного однообразного текста...
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Re: Loadout by Category

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И ещё вопрос, CargoSpaceCorrection v1.1 - это дополнение ещё актуально? Его надо ставить или в новой OOlite оно уже ничего не даст?
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Re: Loadout by Category

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Krager wrote: Wed May 28, 2025 8:50 pm
И ещё вопрос, CargoSpaceCorrection v1.1 - это дополнение ещё актуально? Его надо ставить или в новой OOlite оно уже ничего не даст?
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Re: Loadout by Category

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Krager wrote: Wed May 28, 2025 8:48 pm
Подскажите такой вопрос, а можно добавить в ваше дополнение, чтобы оно ещё страницу F4 захватывало? Например сделать раскраску по категориям. Например корабельные системы - зелёные (или сами категории раскрасить) . А то на F4 уже 5 страниц сплошного однообразного текста...
No, at the moment there is no way to colour the items on the F4 page.
Krager wrote: Wed May 28, 2025 8:50 pm
И ещё вопрос, CargoSpaceCorrection v1.1 - это дополнение ещё актуально? Его надо ставить или в новой OOlite оно уже ничего не даст?
Cargo Space Correction is only required if you're using an OXP that tries to do something funky with the cargo space and gets it wrong, messing up your cargo space and potentially losing cargo. Consider it an OXP bug fix. It doesn't output any text to the game itself, just some log file entries, so I'm not sure it's worth the time translating.
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Re: Loadout by Category

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По раскраске F4 понял, Вопросов больше нет.

По дополнению, вопрос не в переводе, а в полезности для игры. По грузам стоит целый список дополнений, возможно ещё какие либо тоже касаются грузов. Будет ли CargoSpaceCorrection v1.1 полезно, если какое то дополнение где то не так отработает?

Дополнения по грузам на текущий момент.
RUS_AdditionalCargoSpaceAdjustments v1.0.2.oxz
RUS_Auxiliary_Pylon v1.0.oxz
RUS_BulkCargoProcessor v1.5.oxz
RUS_Cargo_Pods v1.2.oxz
RUS_Cargo_Shepherd v1.01.oxz
RUS_Cargo_Space_Refit v1.0.oxz
RUS_CargoSpotter v1.1.oxz
RUS_HyperCargo v1.11.oxz

И ещё один вопрос. Можно сделать LoadoutByCategory одним файлом для разных версий OOlite? (1.9 и 1.91) Как и Ships_Library v0.10. Или в этом дополнении так не получиться?
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Re: Loadout by Category

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Having CargoSpaceCorrection installed won't hurt anything. If nothing goes wrong, it won't need to do anything and will just sit in the background.

But if you're using *any* cargo space modifying OXP's, it's probably worth keeping it in. At least until those other OXP's are fixed.
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