Enabling EVA's in Oolite

[Cholmondely]

EVA = Extravehicular activity



Massively Locked and I are pondering Limbo's idea of a more realistic "non-oxygenated" Rock Hermit for Life in the Frontier v2.0.

To make this more credible, it would be nice to introduce the ability to perform an EVA, to get from one's spaceship to the oxygenated sections of the RH.

Other OXP's could also benefit - eg Murgh's Refugee Adders where one could personally take the food/water/medicine over to the refugees in the "Stretch Adder".

3) How does one get food/medicine/water/machinery etc over to the refugee adder?
* they do it themselves - and send somebody over in a spacesuit to pick up the goodies.
* you do it yourself - use Astronaut and haul the goodies over to them...
* maybe there would be some sort of bot/drone which could do the job - there might be one which might be part of the CobraMk3 equipment which might be modifiable for the job

So! What changes would be needed to the Vanilla game core code to enable this to happen?

How can one change into one's spacesuit (Astronaut.oxp) inside one's Cobra Mk.III and leave it - and then later re-enter it?

Just parking this link here for future analysis: How long can one live in the vacuum of space? (ClymAngus, 2014)

[Redspear]

So! What changes would be needed to the Vanilla game core code to enable this to happen?

How can one change into one's spacesuit (Astronaut.oxp) inside one's Cobra Mk.III and leave it - and then later re-enter it?

In practice, player nearly always = ship, but that ship can of course be changed.

• Change player ship to 'astronaut' (with very low size and speed, masslocked by own ship or torus otherwise disabled).
• Spawn replica of player ship nearby (ideally at original player coordinates and nudge the astronaut to be adjacent).
• Test range of player (astronaut) to vehicle/target.
• When within range, grant option to dock/board/otherwise interact.
• Mission screen the rest.

If you want to experience the process of boarding etc. in a more live-action sense then model changes would likely be required with minimal interiors and likely for minimal benefit.

[Cholmondely]

So! What changes would be needed to the Vanilla game core code to enable this to happen?

How can one change into one's spacesuit (Astronaut.oxp) inside one's Cobra Mk.III and leave it - and then later re-enter it?

In practice, player nearly always = ship, but that ship can of course be changed.

• Change player ship to 'astronaut' (with very low size and speed, masslocked by own ship or torus otherwise disabled).
• Spawn replica of player ship nearby (ideally at original player coordinates and nudge the astronaut to be adjacent).
• Test range of player (astronaut) to vehicle/target.
• When within range, grant option to dock/board/otherwise interact.
• Mission screen the rest.

If you want to experience the process of boarding etc. in a more live-action sense then model changes would likely be required with minimal interiors and likely for minimal benefit.

Redspear - can this be done by an .oxp with the game code as it currently stands?

[Redspear]

Redspear - can this be done by an .oxp with the game code as it currently stands?

I don't see why not.

Theres a few things to consider, especially around preserving ship state but I think they have mostly (if not entirely) been done before.

[Cholmondely]

Redspear - can this be done by an .oxp with the game code as it currently stands?

I don't see why not.

Theres a few things to consider, especially around preserving ship state but I think they have mostly (if not entirely) been done before.

Thank you!

Which OXP's should we be looking at?

I'd thought that it was impossible to "change ship" unless docked...

[Redspear]

Which OXP's should we be looking at?

I'd thought that it was impossible to "change ship" unless docked...

Not sure about that but (as usual) it's not entirely true all of the time (e.g. escape pod).

So if necessary: dock the player at a station elsewhere, change the ship, then return the player to the spot where they chose to 'dock' (potentially quite some distance from the station).

Ship Storage Helper (or whatever it's called) would likely be a good place to poke around I'd imagine.

[cbr]

To make this more credible, it would be nice to introduce the ability to perform an EVA, to get from one's spaceship to the oxygenated sections of the RH.

3d eva module handling like https://youtu.be/P3GBbyfSIHs?t=1662 would also be nifty...

[Wildeblood]

I'd thought that it was impossible to "change ship" unless docked...

Yup. You define the simplest dockable possible (no market, no shipyard), but using the same model as the player ship, dock the player ship, switch ships to the spacesuit, go to the F3 page which is now full of spacesuit specific equipment you've never seen before (oxygen supply, thruster pack, blah, blah), launch, immediately turn and look back hoping to catch a glimpse of the transient dockable you know must have been involved, but all you see is something that looks like your usual ship.

Or, alternatively, if you can't pull off the illusion that the F3 screen is an airlock, just use PS.launch() as soon as the ship replacement mumbo-jumbo is done.

Now what? It's a lot of coding for a novelty item you'll do once. Where's the story value?

[Cholmondely]

Now what? It's a lot of coding for a novelty item you'll do once. Where's the story value?

Two things immediately come to mind.

* Rock Hermits á la Donaldson's Gap series - you can deliver and or pick up messages/light-weight items. Or deal personally with the hermit who will then deliver goodies into your cargo hold.
* Missions - possibly versions of the sort of thing which GalCop Missions does

Oh! And of course... cleaning up after the batoids!

[Wildeblood]

This should be all you need:-

https://wiki.alioth.net/index.php/Shipd ... #like_ship
https://wiki.alioth.net/index.php/Shipd ... is_carrier
https://wiki.alioth.net/index.php/Shipd ... ort_radius

https://wiki.alioth.net/index.php/Oolit ... eakPattern
https://wiki.alioth.net/index.php/Oolit ... dockPlayer
https://wiki.alioth.net/index.php/Ship_Storage_Helper
https://wiki.alioth.net/index.php/Oolit ... eplaceShip
https://wiki.alioth.net/index.php/Oolit ... hip#launch