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Mapping keys/buttons to OXP equipment
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Re: Mapping keys/buttons to OXP equipment
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Re: Mapping keys/buttons to OXP equipment
Yes, not having it is the reason you cannot plot a course.
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Re: Mapping keys/buttons to OXP equipment
shift-6 cycles between 3 possible versions of the 6/F6 screen
1) General chart which merely shows jumpable systems (but only when chosen) - this does not need ANA
2) Yellow route showing fewest jumps to destination system (but takes longer) - needs ANA
3) Blue route showing fastest route to destination system (but more wear and tear on your ship which might need a costly and prolonged maintenance session). - needs ANA
Note that Alnivel's Route Planner OXP allows you to choose much more complex routes while you are docked and requires no extra equipment. - needs ANA
And note that you can cycle through the descriptions of every system on your route on the 7/F7 screen by using your arrow keys.
1) General chart which merely shows jumpable systems (but only when chosen) - this does not need ANA
2) Yellow route showing fewest jumps to destination system (but takes longer) - needs ANA
3) Blue route showing fastest route to destination system (but more wear and tear on your ship which might need a costly and prolonged maintenance session). - needs ANA
Note that Alnivel's Route Planner OXP allows you to choose much more complex routes while you are docked and requires no extra equipment. - needs ANA
And note that you can cycle through the descriptions of every system on your route on the 7/F7 screen by using your arrow keys.
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Re: Mapping keys/buttons to OXP equipment
Understood. That route plotting is only available with ANA (as Cholmondely named it).another_commander wrote: ↑Sun Aug 06, 2023 7:10 pmYes, not having it is the reason you cannot plot a course.
But two things I still don't understand:
- The normal lines between stars (no route) are also dependent on ANA?
- How come by loading a savegame (using my set of expansions) in 1.90 gives me all the route plotting, while loading the same savegame in 1.91 (with the same expansions) does not? ANA should be available either in both cases or in none.
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Re: Mapping keys/buttons to OXP equipment
I'd check to make sure the ANA is installed.
Do a from the console and see what the result is in your 1.90 game, and then again in the 1.91 game.
Do a
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PS.equipmentStatus("EQ_ADVANCED_NAVIGATIONAL_ARRAY")
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Re: Mapping keys/buttons to OXP equipment
I started my Nexus, which can act as interplayer communication module as well as Oolite debug console with Oolite 1.90.phkb wrote: ↑Sun Aug 06, 2023 11:21 pmI'd check to make sure the ANA is installed.
Do afrom the console and see what the result is in your 1.90 game, and then again in the 1.91 game.Code: Select all
PS.equipmentStatus("EQ_ADVANCED_NAVIGATIONAL_ARRAY")
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PS.equipmentStatus("EQ_ADVANCED_NAVIGATIONAL_ARRAY")
EQUIPMENT_OK
Then I started my Nexus, which can act as interplayer communication module as well as Oolite debug console with Oolite 1.91.
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PS.equipmentStatus("EQ_ADVANCED_NAVIGATIONAL_ARRAY")
EQUIPMENT_OK
I cannot tell what turned off that feature in first place - I used to have it on and even forgot about the ANA or that you need to activate it.
So all in all it seems I need to activate it but cannot, at least with the given keyboard settings. Searching, I found this in ~/GNUstep/Defaults/oolite.plist (and I am just not sure if it matters):
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...
<key>KeyConfigOverrides</key>
<dict>
<key>key_advanced_nav_array_next</key>
<array>
<dict>
<key>key</key>
<integer>48</integer>
<key>mod1</key>
<false/>
<key>mod2</key>
<false/>
<key>shift</key>
<string>true</string>
</dict>
</array>
<key>key_next_compass_mode</key>
<array>
<dict>
<key>key</key>
<integer>57</integer>
<key>mod1</key>
<false/>
<key>mod2</key>
<false/>
<key>shift</key>
<false/>
</dict>
</array>
<key>key_prev_compass_mode</key>
<array>
<dict>
<key>key</key>
<integer>41</integer>
<key>mod1</key>
<false/>
<key>mod2</key>
<false/>
<key>shift</key>
<true/>
</dict>
</array>
</dict>
...
So back into the game in 1.91, on the chart screen I am pressing shift + (alphanumeric) zero but nothing happens.
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Re: Mapping keys/buttons to OXP equipment
Ah. Ok I think the problem is that, when using shift, you need to put in the character that is produced by the shift+key combination, not the keyboard key you are shifting. So, on my US keyboard, shift+0 produces the “)” symbol. Change the “0” to “)” (or whatever your keyboard has above the 0 key) and see if that helps.
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Re: Mapping keys/buttons to OXP equipment
Congratulations, you nailed it! With these new settings I was able to get the lines back.phkb wrote: ↑Mon Aug 07, 2023 9:03 pmAh. Ok I think the problem is that, when using shift, you need to put in the character that is produced by the shift+key combination, not the keyboard key you are shifting. So, on my US keyboard, shift+0 produces the “)” symbol. Change the “0” to “)” (or whatever your keyboard has above the 0 key) and see if that helps.
But to be honest, I find the setting a bit confusing. If I were to enter '=', which requires pressing shift anyway, why would I have to declare pressing shift again? Is it possible that Oolite is working on a mix of the entered character and the modifiers while I expected it to record the make/break codes?
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Re: Mapping keys/buttons to OXP equipment
I can see how it can be a bit confusing. Is it "A"? Or "Shift+a"? Or "Shift+A"? No matter which way we jump, someone will find the choice confusing. Our job is to limit the amount of confusion as much as possible.
I think the best option at this point (other that completely re-writing the system to work in a completely different way), is to add some helper text to the config screen when you're entering the desired key, saying something like "When using shift with a key that produces a character, enter the character that would be generated by the shifted key." Open to suggestions on the best wording here.
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Re: Mapping keys/buttons to OXP equipment
Having some explanation might help users to know what to look for. Maybe there is yet one more step we could do:
During gameplay Oolite recognizes a keypress together with the modifiers, and if that matches one of the configured keys it will invoke the action.
During configuration, the keypress and the modifiers have to be configured in separate steps, creating a question mark of Shift + a == A == Shift + A.
What if during configuration the user selects to reconfigure a key and Oolite goes into 'recording mode'. The next key that the user presses is not just analyzed for the key but at the same time all modifiers. Thus as a user I would see 'Shift + A' but maybe bother less than if I had to configure it on my own. The rest of the implementation remains the same.
Could that work?
During gameplay Oolite recognizes a keypress together with the modifiers, and if that matches one of the configured keys it will invoke the action.
During configuration, the keypress and the modifiers have to be configured in separate steps, creating a question mark of Shift + a == A == Shift + A.
What if during configuration the user selects to reconfigure a key and Oolite goes into 'recording mode'. The next key that the user presses is not just analyzed for the key but at the same time all modifiers. Thus as a user I would see 'Shift + A' but maybe bother less than if I had to configure it on my own. The rest of the implementation remains the same.
Could that work?
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Re: Mapping keys/buttons to OXP equipment
That is already in there. At least, I certainly coded it to do that. If you held shift to create the character, the shift flag will automatically be set.
I mean, it might not be working, but the intent was there.
I mean, it might not be working, but the intent was there.
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Re: Mapping keys/buttons to OXP equipment
Sounds good. At least we have the same target.
Now I went back to Oolite v1.91 and tried to reconfigure the 'Next route mode' to fire when I press 'q'. Small letter, directly accessible so no modifier involved. As you can see from above screenshots, it already was configured to 'Shift+=', which means the Shift key needs to be pressed to trigger the action.
So I select 'Next route mode' and press enter.
The 'Key' is selected automatically, so I press enter again.
I need to enter the new key. No, hang on: the prompt below still shows the old key, which I need to remove by pressing backspace.
So I press backspace, then 'q' and enter.
On the previous screen, I can now see
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Key q
Shift yes
Control No
Alt No
Alternate key (not set)
This beast did not automatically detect from one keypress whether I need shift. It also made me remove the old setting manually.
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Yep, the logic I put in was one way only - checking for the shift key being pressed, but not the other way, checking if the shift key was *not* pressed. I'll get a patch in shortly to address this.
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Re: Mapping keys/buttons to OXP equipment
OK, PR has been created. Seems to work a lot better now, checking for both shifted and unshifted characters.
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Re: Mapping keys/buttons to OXP equipment
I'll test as soon as I see a pre-release lying around.
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