Thargoid robot related q's

[cbr]

1]
When a thargoid mothership is destroyed, the robot fighters power down.
When a new mothership arrives should they revive?

2]
When a thargoid mothership is destroyed, the robot fighters power down, they clutter the area,
is there some cleanup oxp which tows/hauls them ( back to the station within certain radius )?

[Cody]

When a new mothership arrives should they revive?

They should revive, but whether they do is another matter.

[Cholmondely]

2]
When a thargoid mothership is destroyed, the robot fighters power down, they clutter the area,
is there some cleanup oxp which tows/hauls them ( back to the station within certain radius )?

Not that I've come across - but my feeble combat skills mean that I've not played with the various Thargoid-adding oxp's. There is a "Navy Thargon Collector" tucked away inside the Behemoth.oxp - but I'm not sure that it actually does anything.... and when I see a battle involving Behemoths and Thargoids, I usually scarper and don't watch what goes on too closely.




Edited to add picture

[Cholmondely]

Another thought - other commodities (because disabled Thargons are now a commodity, no?) are sometimes scooped by NPC's, and sometimes just disappear after a certain amount of time. Are Thargons really treated that differently in-game? Admittedly, the variety of NPC's present after a battle royal with the bugs is likely to differ from those I see outside a regular orbital scooping the debris of "accidents", but still...


By the way, peering into the murky entrails of Behemoth:

Spara's ncc_collector.js is this:

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"use strict";

this.name      = "ncc_thargon_collector"; 
this.author    = "spara"; 
this.copyright = "2013 Mika Spåra";
this.description = "ship script for thargon collector";
this.licence     = "CC BY-NC-SA 3.0";
this.version   = "1.0";

this.shipSpawned = function () {
	this.$mother = system.shipsWithRole("behemoth", ship)[0];
	ship.primaryRole = "defense_ship";
};

this.shipScoopedOther = function() {
	if (!this.$mother || ship.position.distanceTo(this.$mother) > 25600)
		ship.AIState = "DOCK_WITH_STATION";
}

But his ncc_carrier.js has this:

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"use strict";

this.name      = "ncc_carrier"; 
this.author    = "spara"; 
this.copyright = "2014 Mika Spåra, Eric Walch";
this.description = "ship script for navy class carrier";
this.licence     = "CC BY-NC-SA 3.0";

this.shipSpawned = function () {
	this.ship.displayName = this.ship.name + ": " + this.ship.scriptInfo.name;
	this.$scanTimer = new Timer(this, this.$scanForThargons, 0, 10);
}

this.$collectors = 3;

this.$scanForThargons = function () {
    function $isDeadThargon(entity)
    {
		if (entity.hasRole && (entity.hasRole("tharglet") || entity.hasRole("thargon")) && entity.isCargo) {
			return true;
		}
		return false;
    };
	if (this.$collectors > 0) {
		if (ship.AI === "nccCarrierInterceptAI.plist" && ship.AIState !== "ATTACK_SHIP") {
			if (system.filteredEntities(this, $isDeadThargon, ship, 25600).length > 0) {
				ship.launchShipWithRole("ncc-thargon-collector");
				this.$collectors--;
			}
		}
	}
};

this.otherShipDocked = function(whom)
{
     if (whom.hasRole("ncc-thargon-collector")) this.$collectors++;
}

//the rest is from behemoth-carrier.js script from behemoth oxp.

this.shipTargetCloaked = function ()
{
    this.cloakedTarget = this.ship.target;
    if(this.cloakingTimer) this.cloakingTimer.start()
    else this.cloakingTimer = new Timer(this, this.statusCheck, 1, 1);
};

this.statusCheck = function ()
{
    if (!this.ship || !this.ship.isValid) this.cloakingTimer.stop();
    if (this.cloakedTarget) 
    { 
        if (this.cloakedTarget.isCloaked) return;
        else 
        { 
            this.ship.target = this.cloakedTarget; 
            this.ship.reactToAIMessage("TARGET_DECLOAKED"); 
        } 
    } 
    if (this.cloakingTimer) 
    { 
        this.cloakingTimer.stop(); 
        delete this.cloakingTimer; 
    } 
};

this.playerWillEnterWitchspace = this.shipDied = function ()
{
    if (this.cloakingTimer) {this.cloakingTimer.stop(); delete this.cloakingTimer}
};

this.shipBeingAttackedByCloaked = function ()
{
	function isCloaked(entity) {
		return (entity.isShip && entity.isCloaked);
	};
    if (!this.cloakedTarget) {
        this.cloakedTarget = system.filteredEntities(this, isCloaked, this.ship)[0];
    };
    if (this.cloakedTarget && this.cloakedTarget.isCloaked)
    {
        if (this.cloakingTimer) this.cloakingTimer.start()
        else this.cloakingTimer = new Timer(this, this.statusCheck, 1, 1);
    };
};

this.shipBeingAttacked = this.offenceCommittedNearby = function (who)
{
	if (this.ship.target && this.ship.target != who && (who.bounty * who.maxEnergy > this.ship.target.bounty * this.ship.target.maxEnergy || who.isPlayer) && who.scanClass !== "CLASS_POLICE")
    {
         this.ship.reactToAIMessage("SWITCH_TARGET");
         this.ship.target = who;
    }
};

It appears to this dumb pilot that there is scooping-related code in the carrier .js file, but not in the collector .js file.

[hiran]

It appears to this dumb pilot that there is scooping-related code in the carrier .js file, but not in the collector .js file.

It seems you are beginning to see the matrix and start understanding. Truely impressive! Not long until you can tweak it to your needs...

[Cholmondely]

It appears to this dumb pilot that there is scooping-related code in the carrier .js file, but not in the collector .js file.

It seems you are beginning to see the matrix and start understanding. Truly impressive! Not long until you can tweak it to your needs...

My dear Hiran, every attempt at tweaking so far has ended in dismal failure - unless somebody like NiteOwl comes galloping to my rescue. I currently understand too little - and make too many mistakes.

I've been trying to put some of the fiction in the form of books for the ship's library, but there is a lot of text and I've obviously included too many mistakes. I've been having major problems finding software which points out the mistakes in my code. The only thing which works (just on .plists, and just on shorter files) is the AppleMac's own "plutil" command on its Terminal programme. I have gotten nowhere with SubEthaEdit & Visual Studio Code.

[hiran]

My dear Hiran, every attempt at tweaking so far has ended in dismal failure - unless somebody like NiteOwl comes galloping to my rescue. I currently understand too little - and make too many mistakes.

That is perfectly ok. Nobody became a master of anything without trying (and erroring). You are trying, that is important.

I've been trying to put some of the fiction in the form of books for the ship's library, but there is a lot of text and I've obviously included too many mistakes. I've been having major problems finding software which points out the mistakes in my code. The only thing which works (just on .plists, and just on shorter files) is the AppleMac's own "plutil" command on its Terminal programme. I have gotten nowhere with SubEthaEdit & Visual Studio Code.

It seems what could help you is a tool that would read your plist file and tell you about problems. I am not sure how plutil works in detail, but basically what you need is a kind of linter. This could be built from scratch - I tried it until I stumbled over ready-made libraries to do the job. Here are some resources that might help:

- https://stackoverflow.com/questions/877 ... rom-plutil
- https://docs.python.org/3/library/plistlib.html
- https://github.com/takahashi-akari/apple-plist-parser
- https://github.com/baleyko/plistlint

The most impressive (that I could not test myself) seems this one, and I hope I am not suggesting payware: https://getpenguin.app/

Edit: looking at my post again it seems odd to just point you to tools and let you sort it out yourself.
Maybe we can create something together that helps you in the long run?

[Cholmondely]

Maybe we can create something together...

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