Issue with engine exhaust positioning - Spearhead Interceptor

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Re: Issue with engine exhaust positioning - Spearhead Interceptor

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I used wings3d 1.5
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Re: Issue with engine exhaust positioning - Spearhead Interceptor

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Rendell001 wrote: Mon Sep 07, 2020 2:48 am
Thats terrific, thank you for doing this, this gives me something to go on - I don't know how I got the initial values so wide of the mark.
Did you fix it?

Your original 2009 download for your .oxp is still here: http://app.box.net/shared/lgkdleesxn

The wiki page is here: Spearhead Interceptor Mk.I

Let us know if want a wiki account so that you can tweak it - or if you wish one of us to do so for you...
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Re: Issue with engine exhaust positioning - Spearhead Interceptor

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Hi there, been a while I know...

The last two years have been pretty fraught and I confess that I got mixed up with the newer vesrion of Wings 3d. I'm practically starting from scratch even though I still have the orginal mesh / dat files.

I still would like to complete this properly but I'll need to go and watch some tutorials on YT or something - life tends to get in the way of projects like this.

Thanks for giving me the prod though!
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Re: Issue with engine exhaust positioning - Spearhead Interceptor

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Rendell001 wrote: Tue Jun 14, 2022 10:54 pm
Hi there, been a while I know...

The last two years have been pretty fraught and I confess that I got mixed up with the newer vesrion of Wings 3d. I'm practically starting from scratch even though I still have the orginal mesh / dat files.

I still would like to complete this properly but I'll need to go and watch some tutorials on YT or something - life tends to get in the way of projects like this.

Thanks for giving me the prod though!
Is the newer version any good? Do you recommend it? Or is the older version better for those who already know how to use it?

And there are some helpers which Svengali created if you can work out how to use them:

See OXP howto model (see Tool: Library MatFinder at the bottom of the page)
And Library OXP (see Library_devtools.oxp at the bottom of the page)
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Re: Issue with engine exhaust positioning - Spearhead Interceptor

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So the main issue was that in the time period between when I'd originally designed the Spearhead and when I'd come back to it in 2020, Wings had undergone major updates which made the older Wings files incompatible. AFAIK, older files have to be converted in some way to get them load up in 1.5 or later...

Those helpers sound interesting though - can you post a link or something?
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Re: Issue with engine exhaust positioning - Spearhead Interceptor

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Rendell001 wrote: Wed Jun 15, 2022 1:48 pm
So the main issue was that in the time period between when I'd originally designed the Spearhead and when I'd come back to it in 2020, Wings had undergone major updates which made the older Wings files incompatible. AFAIK, older files have to be converted in some way to get them load up in 1.5 or later...

Those helpers sound interesting though - can you post a link or something?
–But you do have your old .dat files, yes? Converted to .obj which wings imports, they are just as valuable as any (possibly outdated) wings file, –except if you've saved a scene of many different things together.

I also recently had to relearn Wings after 14 years away, and it's grunty in the beginning, but you can be all that you were before long. :D
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Re: Issue with engine exhaust positioning - Spearhead Interceptor

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Rendell001 wrote: Wed Jun 15, 2022 1:48 pm
Those helpers sound interesting though - can you post a link or something?
More links:
1) Downloads
Matfinder
Devtools (look in Test OXP's)

2) New wiki page


Montana05 might know how to use them. Svengali, unfortunately, passed away a year ago.

Devtools:

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Re: Issue with engine exhaust positioning - Spearhead Interceptor

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Okay I've installed the Matfinder library and the other library that goes with it - seems to work fine in the f4 page ingame.
I can scroll through the list of objects installed so that's a good start however the Spearhead interceptor is most likely not compatible in it's current form and is not on the list. Will need to know how to fix that before I can use this very handy tool to edit it.

Btw, many thanks to you all for pointing me in the right direction!
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