Wiki & Expansions Manager: authorising new accounts.
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Wiki & Expansions Manager: authorising new accounts.
The wiki states that Maik authorises new accounts for our wiki (he last logged in on July 2021), and oolite.org just states that it is done through this forum, and unhelpfully brings one to the top level of it.
1) Can anybody other than Maik authorise new accounts for our wiki?
2) Who can authorise new Expansion Pack writers to log in for the Expansions Manager? I bugged cim, and it took him over a month to get back to me... (which I was fine with, but who should others go to?).
3) Is it possible to give more detail on Oolite.org as to how new Expansion Pack writers should go about registering - maybe direct them to a thread?
1) Can anybody other than Maik authorise new accounts for our wiki?
2) Who can authorise new Expansion Pack writers to log in for the Expansions Manager? I bugged cim, and it took him over a month to get back to me... (which I was fine with, but who should others go to?).
3) Is it possible to give more detail on Oolite.org as to how new Expansion Pack writers should go about registering - maybe direct them to a thread?
Comments wanted:
•Missing OXPs? What do you think is missing?
•Lore: The economics of ship building How many built for Aronar?
•Lore: The Space Traders Flight Training Manual: Cowell & MgRath Do you agree with Redspear?
•Missing OXPs? What do you think is missing?
•Lore: The economics of ship building How many built for Aronar?
•Lore: The Space Traders Flight Training Manual: Cowell & MgRath Do you agree with Redspear?
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Re: Wiki & Expansions Manager: authorising new accounts.
I can do that bit.Cholmondely wrote: ↑Wed Dec 15, 2021 12:36 pmWho can authorise new Expansion Pack writers to log in for the Expansions Manager?
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Re: Wiki & Expansions Manager: authorising new accounts.
No! We can't have somebody helpful doing it. No way. It has to be somebody who has been eviscerated, devoured and absorbed by the Witchspace Lobster and has yet to be regurgitated...phkb wrote: ↑Wed Dec 15, 2021 1:18 pmI can do that bit.Cholmondely wrote: ↑Wed Dec 15, 2021 12:36 pmWho can authorise new Expansion Pack writers to log in for the Expansions Manager?
Comments wanted:
•Missing OXPs? What do you think is missing?
•Lore: The economics of ship building How many built for Aronar?
•Lore: The Space Traders Flight Training Manual: Cowell & MgRath Do you agree with Redspear?
•Missing OXPs? What do you think is missing?
•Lore: The economics of ship building How many built for Aronar?
•Lore: The Space Traders Flight Training Manual: Cowell & MgRath Do you agree with Redspear?
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Re: Wiki & Expansions Manager: authorising new accounts.
For running Oolite smoothly, I would suggest having another person except phkb able for the expansion manager. For the wiki it would be time for 1 or 2 persons more to get deletion rights.Cholmondely wrote: ↑Wed Dec 15, 2021 1:26 pmNo! We can't have somebody helpful doing it. No way. It has to be somebody who has been eviscerated, devoured and absorbed by the Witchspace Lobster and has yet to be regurgitated...phkb wrote: ↑Wed Dec 15, 2021 1:18 pmI can do that bit.Cholmondely wrote: ↑Wed Dec 15, 2021 12:36 pmWho can authorise new Expansion Pack writers to log in for the Expansions Manager?
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Re: Wiki & Expansions Manager: authorising new accounts.
I hope to write Winston a letter. Do you think that you could do something positive if you had them?montana05 wrote: ↑Wed Dec 15, 2021 1:51 pmFor running Oolite smoothly, I would suggest having another person except phkb able for the expansion manager. For the wiki it would be time for 1 or 2 persons more to get deletion rights.
Comments wanted:
•Missing OXPs? What do you think is missing?
•Lore: The economics of ship building How many built for Aronar?
•Lore: The Space Traders Flight Training Manual: Cowell & MgRath Do you agree with Redspear?
•Missing OXPs? What do you think is missing?
•Lore: The economics of ship building How many built for Aronar?
•Lore: The Space Traders Flight Training Manual: Cowell & MgRath Do you agree with Redspear?
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Re: Wiki & Expansions Manager: authorising new accounts.
Well, my modifications of the wiki are intended as an improvement. While deletion rights would be nice to have, I would see them as a merely backup. Currently, I am usually contacting Maik for the wiki and phkb for the manager which, most of the time, works fine. This year I deleted around 7 pages with 2 more pending, so it is not a feature used on a daily basis.Cholmondely wrote: ↑Wed Dec 15, 2021 8:12 pmI hope to write Winston a letter. Do you think that you could do something positive if you had them?
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Re: Wiki & Expansions Manager: authorising new accounts.
Even if it is rarely used, we may want someone active on the job.montana05 wrote: ↑Thu Dec 16, 2021 1:30 amWell, my modifications of the wiki are intended as an improvement. While deletion rights would be nice to have, I would see them as a merely backup. Currently, I am usually contacting Maik for the wiki and phkb for the manager which, most of the time, works fine. This year I deleted around 7 pages with 2 more pending, so it is not a feature used on a daily basis.Cholmondely wrote: ↑Wed Dec 15, 2021 8:12 pmI hope to write Winston a letter. Do you think that you could do something positive if you had them?
Compare it to a fire brigade. Usually there is no fire. But in the event of one happening, you better have some firemen happy to assist...
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Re: Wiki & Expansions Manager: authorising new accounts.
You do have a point, as a backup and for emergencies it would be useful.hiran wrote: ↑Thu Dec 16, 2021 10:22 pmEven if it is rarely used, we may want someone active on the job.montana05 wrote: ↑Thu Dec 16, 2021 1:30 amWell, my modifications of the wiki are intended as an improvement. While deletion rights would be nice to have, I would see them as a merely backup. Currently, I am usually contacting Maik for the wiki and phkb for the manager which, most of the time, works fine. This year I deleted around 7 pages with 2 more pending, so it is not a feature used on a daily basis.Cholmondely wrote: ↑Wed Dec 15, 2021 8:12 pmI hope to write Winston a letter. Do you think that you could do something positive if you had them?
Compare it to a fire brigade. Usually there is no fire. But in the event of one happening, you better have some firemen happy to assist...
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Re: Wiki & Expansions Manager: authorising new accounts.
Well, I probably have sufficient rights to the download manager to elevate other users into an admin-level account. Does someone want to put their hand up? I promise it won't hurt a bit!
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Re: Wiki & Expansions Manager: authorising new accounts.
Better take your offer as long as it is open. I could volunteer, and I promise I will not "montanacise" the manager.
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Re: Wiki & Expansions Manager: authorising new accounts.
I'd put my hand up as well.
After all I dug around in how things work, and this way I could experience it in practise rather than pure theory.
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Re: Wiki & Expansions Manager: authorising new accounts.
Bugbear has just intimated that he might just be an expert on rejigging tired systems such as ours...
•phpBB update to 3.3.3
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References:Bugbear wrote: ↑Sun Dec 26, 2021 1:55 am...This is inspired in part from my real life work. I work in IT primarily in the administration of ITSM toolsets (anyone heard of ServiceNow?).
ITSM (Information Technology Service Management - for anyone that's interested) is built on the Information Technology Infrastructure Library framework which provides recommendations for how to manage your IT infrastructure.
A component of this is a concept of Change Management. This is a set of guidelines for managing how to do things like upgrade software, install servers, even trivial things like rebooting servers that host important software. A lot of it (should) include providing notifications for when infrastructure will be offline as a result of maintenance and improvement work...
•phpBB update to 3.3.3
•Aftermath of wiki collapse
Comments wanted:
•Missing OXPs? What do you think is missing?
•Lore: The economics of ship building How many built for Aronar?
•Lore: The Space Traders Flight Training Manual: Cowell & MgRath Do you agree with Redspear?
•Missing OXPs? What do you think is missing?
•Lore: The economics of ship building How many built for Aronar?
•Lore: The Space Traders Flight Training Manual: Cowell & MgRath Do you agree with Redspear?
Re: Wiki & Expansions Manager: authorising new accounts.
Yeah umm I'm not sure what you have in mind. I can perhaps assist with looking at processes and the way things are done, but my technical skills with Oolite itself are quite rudimentary.Cholmondely wrote: ↑Sun Dec 26, 2021 9:25 amBugbear has just intimated that he might just be an expert on rejigging tired systems such as ours...
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References:
•phpBB update to 3.3.3
•Aftermath of wiki collapse
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Re: Wiki & Expansions Manager: authorising new accounts.
So what? You know something about it. You've actually been involved doing it for others. I'm just an utter ignoramus.Bugbear wrote: ↑Sun Dec 26, 2021 1:42 pmYeah umm I'm not sure what you have in mind. I can perhaps assist with looking at processes and the way things are done, but my technical skills with Oolite itself are quite rudimentary.Cholmondely wrote: ↑Sun Dec 26, 2021 9:25 amBugbear has just intimated that he might just be an expert on rejigging tired systems such as ours...
<snip>
References:
•phpBB update to 3.3.3
•Aftermath of wiki collapse
But it's not Oolite that's the issue. Oolite is just fine - we each have a few pet things we'd like to see, but it works (unless you play too long on an AppleMac and lose all the sound... but even then, the rest of it works).
It is this BB (which seems to creak at the seams), and the wiki - if it needs it.
Comments wanted:
•Missing OXPs? What do you think is missing?
•Lore: The economics of ship building How many built for Aronar?
•Lore: The Space Traders Flight Training Manual: Cowell & MgRath Do you agree with Redspear?
•Missing OXPs? What do you think is missing?
•Lore: The economics of ship building How many built for Aronar?
•Lore: The Space Traders Flight Training Manual: Cowell & MgRath Do you agree with Redspear?
Re: Wiki & Expansions Manager: authorising new accounts.
I'll admit you have my curiosity. What I do for work is administer what essentially boils down to a ticketing system for large enterprises. All that a large enterprise does with regards to managing their IT infrastructure won't be applicable to a volunteer enterprise such as the Oolite developer community but there may be some practices that can be put in place.
So the first question is: what problem are you trying to solve?
And perhaps to help answer that first question, you need to address other questions.
What is the "product" in this scenario?
Who is the system custodian/owner?
Who is it that approves changes in functionality?
Who is responsible for implementing changes?
Who needs to be consulted when changes are being developed?
Who needs to be informed of changes made?
Do we have a bug tracker for logging incidents (i.e. things going wrong) and requests? (I would assume the answer to this is: Yes)
Does the bug tracker only cover the Oolite code base or can it be extended to track events related to supporting configuration items like the Wiki and Bulletin board? Do you even want to go down to that level of complexity?
I'm sure you can imagine that this can get very complex, very fast. I've never tried applying ITIL principles to a volunteer enterprise so this will be interesting to see what level of maturity is possible.
So the first question is: what problem are you trying to solve?
And perhaps to help answer that first question, you need to address other questions.
What is the "product" in this scenario?
Who is the system custodian/owner?
Who is it that approves changes in functionality?
Who is responsible for implementing changes?
Who needs to be consulted when changes are being developed?
Who needs to be informed of changes made?
Do we have a bug tracker for logging incidents (i.e. things going wrong) and requests? (I would assume the answer to this is: Yes)
Does the bug tracker only cover the Oolite code base or can it be extended to track events related to supporting configuration items like the Wiki and Bulletin board? Do you even want to go down to that level of complexity?
I'm sure you can imagine that this can get very complex, very fast. I've never tried applying ITIL principles to a volunteer enterprise so this will be interesting to see what level of maturity is possible.
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Black Monks bothering performed at no extra charge.
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