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New ship, Naval Energy Unit

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I haven't played for a long time and I don't remember some things. For example, is it possible to somehow transfer the equipment of an old ship to a new one? If not, where can I buy the Naval Energy Unit?

Is the Boa Class Cruiser the best ship I can buy from Oolite?
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Re: New ship, Naval Energy Unit

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3DH wrote: Wed Sep 29, 2021 5:54 pm
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I haven't played for a long time and I don't remember some things. For example, is it possible to somehow transfer the equipment of an old ship to a new one? If not, where can I buy the Naval Energy Unit?

Is the Boa Class Cruiser the best ship I can buy from Oolite?
Welcome back!

I'm no expert on this.

I do understand that one can only buy the NEU if it is already included with a new ship which you are buying - ie you cannot buy an NEU all by itself for your current ship.
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You would have to make changes to your save-file to transfer your NEU to another ship.
In effect, you would switch to another ship in your save-file, instead of buying it.
3DH wrote: Wed Sep 29, 2021 5:54 pm
Is the Boa Class Cruiser the best ship I can buy from Oolite?
That depends. Of the core player ships (other than the Cobra MKIII)... probably.
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Re: New ship, Naval Energy Unit

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If the equipment item doesn’t transfer automatically to a new ship, then your out of luck in the base game. However, the Equipment Storage OXP allows you to store equipment and install it on another ship, so there is a way to do it using expansions.
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Thanks for the answers. I don't want to use OXP and I don't want to modify the save file either. I have another question. How often do the offers in stores change? I am asking because on the old game save I saw a Boa Class Cruiser + NEU available for purchase in Xevera. Now there is Boa but no NEU.

So it's not up to date anymore?
http://wiki.alioth.net/index.php/Naval_Energy_Unit
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3DH wrote: Thu Sep 30, 2021 11:31 am
Thanks for the answers. I don't want to use OXP and I don't want to modify the save file either. I have another question. How often do the offers in stores change? I am asking because on the old game save I saw a Boa Class Cruiser + NEU available for purchase in Xevera. Now there is Boa but no NEU.

So it's not up to date anymore?
http://wiki.alioth.net/index.php/Naval_Energy_Unit
I've been doing much of the work editing the wiki over the past year. But I try not to tamper with what I know I'm ignorant about. Never earned the NEU - or bought a new ship! I just bounce around the galaxy in decaying cobras!

If I understood what you wrote, you saved the game with the NEU'd Boa for sale and it had been sold when you restarted, but another Boa was on sale instead. Which is what one would expect, no?

What do you think needs changing on our wiki page?
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Sorry Cholmondely, I didn't understand everything. Anyway, I found my dream ship with NEU in Geonbi:
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Cool!
I would advise stilts for the quagmires, and camels for the snowy hills
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3DH wrote: Thu Sep 30, 2021 3:13 pm
Sorry Cholmondely, I didn't understand everything. Anyway, I found my dream ship with NEU in Geonbi
Not cheap!

You might have noticed that there has been a lot of discussion of different keyboards and the problems with playing Oolite on some of them.
Can I just ask: which keyboard do you use? AZERTY? QWERTZ? Another one?

And how good are the translations of the wiki and of this bulletin board?

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I'm using the qwerty keyboard, but I'm using a more Dualshock 4 controller. By the way it's nice that you added docking in the controller configuration.

As for the translation, I won't say anything because my language isn't there.
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3DH wrote: Thu Sep 30, 2021 6:56 pm
I'm using the qwerty keyboard, but I'm using a more Dualshock 4 controller. By the way it's nice that you added docking in the controller configuration.

As for the translation, I won't say anything because my language isn't there.
I see the DualShock 4 offers vibration feedback. Have you tried out the jitter handling option with BGS? Is it the same thing?

And what is your language? Is it one we should be worrying about? The list of languages on the wiki Language page is purely based on the languages for which there is some sort of support. There are not many, and the support is pretty feeble...

Docking was added some time ago (presumably by a_c_ , getafix or phkb). Phkb is now looking at expanding the controller/joystick mapping possibilities yet again, to include all the various key-commands!
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Cholmondely wrote: Fri Oct 01, 2021 9:44 am
I see the DualShock 4 offers vibration feedback. Have you tried out the jitter handling option with BGS? Is it the same thing?
I do not have any vibration on the DS4. I don't even want to. I never liked it.
I haven't tried BGS. The Oolite core alone is enough for me.
Cholmondely wrote: Fri Oct 01, 2021 9:44 am
And what is your language? Is it one we should be worrying about? The list of languages on the wiki Language page is purely based on the languages for which there is some sort of support. There are not many, and the support is pretty feeble...
Polish.
Cholmondely wrote: Fri Oct 01, 2021 9:44 am
Docking was added some time ago (presumably by a_c_ , getafix or phkb). Phkb is now looking at expanding the controller/joystick mapping possibilities yet again, to include all the various key-commands!
Cool. It would be even better if there were a combination of buttons.
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3DH wrote: Fri Oct 01, 2021 12:23 pm
Polish.
There are a number oxp's written by Poles: Useful MFDs, Engine Trails, Laser Colors, Elite Ranks, Standalone Font, Chupacabra HUD, Numeric HUD, Cyan HUD, & Vimana HUD (my personal favourite).

Zireael allegedly started playing Oolite to teach himself English. There is a rumour that he programmed all his pirates to speak in Received Pronounciation (an aristocratic pronounciation), whilst his police vipers spoke with a cockney accent. OSH still drops in from time to time. Gnievmir appeared a year ago, gave us his Vimana HUD and then disappeared again!
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3DH wrote: Wed Sep 29, 2021 5:54 pm
Is the Boa Class Cruiser the best ship I can buy from Oolite?
Yes and no.
For taking on those lucrative long-haul freight contracts, a definite yes. The BCC has a looooooot of cargo room, which the Cobbie simply lacks.

How Ever! It is really big, kinda slow, and totally does not turn on a dime. An easy target for pirates.
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Re: New ship, Naval Energy Unit

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The Boa Class Cruiser is hard to dock cleanly because it is so large.
But it is reasonably maneuverable and slightly faster than supposed "fighter" types like Fer-de-Lances, Geckos, Kraits, and Morays.
While it may be easy to hit, it is really tough with all the standard game add-on equipment.
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