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Reval
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by Reval » Tue Nov 03, 2020 3:38 am
I'm hoping this is the right forum under which to post this...
Does anyone know of (or use) a
formula for translating Frontier ships' thrust/acceleration to Elite light Mach (LM)?
Or are we forced to pick a baseline value (say, an Adder at 18.1 g/0.24 LM) and extrapolate?
If the latter, I have the following conversions:
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Ship Th/Acc Vel/c Cargo
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Adder 18.1 g 0.24 LM 40 TC
Anaconda 6.0 g 0.08 LM 650 TC
Asp Explorer 22.2 g 0.29 LM 120 TC
Boa 8.0 g 0.11 LM 1300 TC
Cobra 1 16.1 g 0.21 LM 60 TC
Cobra 3 20.1 g 0.27 LM 80 TC
Constrictor 22.0 g 0.29 LM 90 TC
Fer-de-Lance ??.? g ?.?? LM ???? TC
Gecko 16.0 g 0.212 LM 34 TC
Krait 20.1 g 0.27 LM 27 TC
Mamba ??.? g ?.??? LM ???? TC
Moray 14.0 g 0.186 LM 70 TC
Python 10.0 g 0.133 LM 400 TC
Sidewinder 23.2 g 0.31 LM 25 TC
Viper 2 25.2 g 0.334 LM 52 TC
(grateful if anyone can comment or verify)
Cmdr James
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by Cmdr James » Tue Nov 03, 2020 8:33 pm
Im pretty sure that there is no exact science to it.
Reval
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by Reval » Tue Nov 03, 2020 9:03 pm
Pretty much what I thought (but decided to check, in case)
The extrapolation method works quite well:
LM := (FEShipG/FEBaseG) * BaseLM;
So for an Asp Explorer that would be
(22.2/18.1) * 0.24 = 0.294
(wrote a Pascal proggy to list the equivalents out, so can play with the baselines and normalize to Oolite's slowest-fastest range, if required.)
stranger
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by stranger » Wed Nov 04, 2020 1:32 am
LM (Light Mach) in Oolite is just game speed unit, exactly 1000 mps. So Adder with 0.24 LM max speed has 240 mps speed on full thrust.
Thrust in Oolite really means thrust/mass ratio (acceleration). Adder has thrust 30 and will reach full speed at 8 s (240/30).
Reval
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by Reval » Wed Nov 04, 2020 3:01 am
Thanks for that, stranger. Interesting.
I'm still hoping that your new information doesn't throw out my calculated _relative_ game-speeds for the FE ships I'm proposing to replace the core Oolite/Elite ships with via an OXP...
Provisionally I'll be keeping the existing Oolite thrust-factors, though of course the FE manual gives different ones.
Your further comments welcome.