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Is there a way to automatically download all non-conflicting OXP's automatically while I am away from my PC? I have limited internet access and not enough time to do a lot of searching or reading. Thanks in advance for any information.
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Hi Gershom, and welcome.
In a word, No.
The Expansion Manager allows easy download/installation of OXPs, but you will need to select them yourself, which is the only sensible approach if you want to avoid a lot of hassle and ending up with stuff you may not want. A lot of OXPs change the game and without researching them you could just end up making the game un-playable.
Also, what do you mean by 'conflicting' OXPs? There are hundreds of OXPs these days, and therefore probably hundreds of thousands of combinations possible, so unless somebody could somehow try all these combinations over a long period, all potential conflicts would never be known.
The core game is mature and refined and really doesn't need anything added to it. However a few detail improvements are often desirable to suit individual tastes, and even the core game can be improved in most peoples' opinion by adding a few innocuous OXPs like Random Ship Names or Better Buoys - little touches that improve the feel or look of the Ooniverse without making any changes to core gameplay.
If time is an issue for you, you may be better off just enjoying the game as it comes, because if you start getting into installing loads of OXPs, you will spend all your valuable time diagnosing problems and/or just trying to work out which OXP (or combination) is causing you problems, because problems is what you will get sooner or later.
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Hey Gershom!

I suffer with the exact same problem... I have limited internet, and a data restriction on how much I can use. It gets rather annoying! I'm not sure if you have the OXP manager (Not sure how to link OXP's here... sorry about that. Still new to the forums. ;P) but if you don't, it makes things a ton easier. It sometimes doesn't have everything, and occasionally a few links won't work, but for the most part it's extremely reliable. Anyways! From my still-new standpoint, this is what I've gathered:

HUDs aren't compatible. Just given their nature, it sends conflicting information.
Ambiances is compatible, generally.
Fighters and new ships are compatible
Re-textures are compatible with other, different ships. But, obviously, you want to avoid getting different re-textures for the same ship.
Missions are compatible. They might stack and get a bit overwhelming, but they don't generally mess with each other.
Mechanics are iffy. If you get a bunch of broad-spectrum mechanic changes, you can run into issues. Try to shoot for more specific, clearly defined ones.


.... I think that might cover all the categories. If not, I apologize. I'm still fairly new to this :P My information probably isn't the best, I just want to try to be helpful.

What I end up doing for actual downloading of files, is on my free time figuring out what OXP's I want, then when I'm at the library next time (or anywhere with free, secure internet) I just open Oolite and have it downloading in the background. You have to actually click on what OXPs you want, but once you do that then it automatically downloads, so you don't have to pay attention again until it's done.
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Re: ALL OXP DOWNLOADER

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You can download expansions manually here:
Oolite Expansion Packs
Clicking the name takes you to the wiki and the icon on the far right starts the download. I can usually get 10 or more going at once. Downloading them this way would allow you to save them in a folder separate from your AddOns folder so you could test them individually without a connection.
Cmdr. Aiden Henessy wrote:
HUDs aren't compatible. Just given their nature, it sends conflicting information.
The HUD selector allows you to use different HUDs you have installed:
[EliteWiki] HUDSelector
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Well, a wget or similar tool could download all oxz package in one step from the http://www.oolite.org/oxps/ page, but you must recolve conflicts manually. If you put all into the addons folder, the game will display the problems at start over the main menu.

Imho would be a big help if we could read the package descriptions under the names, like in this example:
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Maybe not instantly, just a "Show descriptions" link above the table could reload the page with this info.
I think it is easy to do - cim, how about this?
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Norby wrote:
Imho would be a big help if we could read the package descriptions under the names, like in this example:
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Maybe not instantly, just a "Show descriptions" link above the table could reload the page with this info.
I think it is easy to do - cim, how about this?
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Norby wrote:
I think it is easy to do - cim, how about this?
Certainly possible, should be fairly easy to do somehow. I don't know when I'll have time to work on it - if anyone else wants a go, the website source is at https://github.com/OoliteProject/oolite-web with /templates/pages/oxptable.php being the most relevant file. The $oxz array already has a description value set, it's just not used there.
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cim wrote:
if anyone else wants a go
Thank you, pull request sent. ;)
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Sorry Norby, I had some issues with my private messages, so I just managed to actually view them.
I have merged your request.
Before pushing the changes to the live site, please, consider changing the description style a bit; the table is becoming cluttered with the description.

I have hard-coded some styling just to give an example. (edit: Used the "Click column header to sort table." style)
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Getafix wrote: Mon Mar 27, 2017 10:38 am
I had some issues with my private messages, so I just managed to actually view them.
Forum software? It is a trifle flaky these days.
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Actually it was my laziness on keeping my PMs box clean and tidy. :oops:
It was full and no new messages could be displayed.
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Getafix wrote: Mon Mar 27, 2017 10:38 am
Sorry Norby, I had some issues with my private messages, so I just managed to actually view them.
I have merged your request.
Before pushing the changes to the live site, please, consider changing the description style a bit; the table is becoming cluttered with the description.

I have hard-coded some styling just to give an example. (edit: Used the "Click column header to sort table." style)
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On a second thought, I will publish it with the hard-coded style.
When you (or anyone else with css-foo skills) will add it in the stylesheet page and remove the hard-code styling, I will publish the correction asap.
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Getafix wrote: Mon Mar 27, 2017 10:38 am
consider changing the description style a bit
Ok, I made a little style change here.
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Merged and made available in oolite.org.
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Getafix wrote: Mon Mar 27, 2017 12:48 pm
Merged and made available in oolite.org.
Thank you! Note the first 5 descriptions are displayed by default, click on Show all descriptions for more.
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