Rock Hermits change completely while I am docked...

[QCS]

Is it expected that if I dock in a ball-shaped-asteroid type Rock Hermit, and I leave the dock, it has changed to a longer-than-wide-asteroid with a long tunnel entrance before the dock itself? I am feeling that this is killing the atmosphere a bit...?

Regards,
QCS

[Wildeblood]

Is it expected...

NO!!! More details, please.

[cim]

Is it expected that if I dock in a ball-shaped-asteroid type Rock Hermit, and I leave the dock, it has changed to a longer-than-wide-asteroid with a long tunnel entrance before the dock itself? I am feeling that this is killing the atmosphere a bit...?

If you have multiple rock hermit OXPs installed, and you save and reload the game while docked, there's no guarantee it'll use the same hermit model on reload. Other than that case, it shouldn't even be possible for the ship model to change while you're docked there...

[QCS]

Well, it just happened to me. But I can not reproduce it, whenever I leave the very same Rock Hermit now (from Savegame), it is the ball-shaped-asteroid I docked with.

I have a couple of OXPs installed in my Oolite 1.80 which also fiddle with the asteroids like oolite.oxp.LittleBear.AsteroidStorm.oxz ... but to be sure I just post which OXPs where active while I encountered this:

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~/GNUstep/Library/ApplicationSupport/Oolite/ManagedAddOns/oolite.oxp.Wildeblood.GlareClarifier.oxz
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~/GNUstep/Library/ApplicationSupport/Oolite/ManagedAddOns/oolite.oxp.Norby.Andromeda.oxz
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~/GNUstep/Library/ApplicationSupport/Oolite/ManagedAddOns/oolite.oxp.redspear.additional_planets_sr_demux_earthlike_pack.oxz
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~/GNUstep/Library/ApplicationSupport/Oolite/ManagedAddOns/oolite.oxp.captsolo.shadydeepspaceships1.2.oxz
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~/GNUstep/Library/ApplicationSupport/Oolite/ManagedAddOns/oolite.oxp.superbatprime.Ship's_Cat.oxz
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~/GNUstep/Library/ApplicationSupport/Oolite/ManagedAddOns/oolite.oxp.redspear.additional_planets_sr_demux_alien_pack.oxz
~/GNUstep/Library/ApplicationSupport/Oolite/ManagedAddOns/oolite.oxp.Ramirez.Dictators.oxz
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~/GNUstep/Library/ApplicationSupport/Oolite/ManagedAddOns/oolite.oxp.spara.audible_docking_clearance.oxz
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~/GNUstep/Library/ApplicationSupport/Oolite/ManagedAddOns/oolite.oxp.captsolo.tori2.02.oxz
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~/GNUstep/Library/ApplicationSupport/Oolite/ManagedAddOns/oolite.oxp.Svengali.Snoopers.oxz
~/GNUstep/Library/ApplicationSupport/Oolite/ManagedAddOns/oolite.oxp.LittleBear.AsteroidStorm.oxz
~/GNUstep/Library/ApplicationSupport/Oolite/ManagedAddOns/oolite.oxp.Thargoid.RingRacer.oxz
~/GNUstep/Library/ApplicationSupport/Oolite/ManagedAddOns/oolite.oxp.spara.stations_for_extra_planets.oxz
~/GNUstep/Library/ApplicationSupport/Oolite/ManagedAddOns/oolite.oxp.Thargoid.Wildships.oxz

What else could I help with?

[Wildeblood]

~/GNUstep/Library/ApplicationSupport/Oolite/ManagedAddOns/oolite.oxp.Wildeblood.GlareClarifier.oxz
~/GNUstep/Library/ApplicationSupport/Oolite/ManagedAddOns/oolite.oxp.spara.glare_filter.oxz

You really don't like the glare effect, eh?

~/GNUstep/Library/ApplicationSupport/Oolite/ManagedAddOns/oolite.oxp.Commander_McLane.Anarchies.oxz

That would be my suspect. Are you familiar with the stations in Anarchies? Was that what you launched from?

[QCS]

~/GNUstep/Library/ApplicationSupport/Oolite/ManagedAddOns/oolite.oxp.Wildeblood.GlareClarifier.oxz
~/GNUstep/Library/ApplicationSupport/Oolite/ManagedAddOns/oolite.oxp.spara.glare_filter.oxz

You really don't like the glare effect, eh?

I am quite sensitive to bright light, and the glare makes it even worse. That's why I try to filter it down. Works quite good

~/GNUstep/Library/ApplicationSupport/Oolite/ManagedAddOns/oolite.oxp.Commander_McLane.Anarchies.oxz

That would be my suspect. Are you familiar with the stations in Anarchies? Was that what you launched from?

No I am not really familiar with that. But the system I was in was Isence (Multigovernment, not an Anarchy).

[CaptSolo]

The longer than wide hermit asteroid you are finding is from shadydeepspaceships.oxz. And Wildeblood's suspicion is spot on as I used (with credit given) the salvage gang from Anarchies OXP for the Rock Hermit.

[Diziet Sma]

The longer than wide hermit asteroid you are finding is from shadydeepspaceships.oxz. And Wildeblood's suspicion is spot on as I used (with credit given) the salvage gang from Anarchies OXP for the Rock Hermit.

That confirms my own suspicions.. as QCS' description:

a longer-than-wide-asteroid with a long tunnel entrance before the dock itself

really only matches the Salvage Gang and Hacker Outpost bases.