Contraband and legal status

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Re: Contraband and legal status

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One other way to sometimes reduce your bounty is to help out a Police Viper fighting pirates or Thargoids.
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Re: Contraband and legal status

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gavchap wrote:
Hey guys, i got caught carrying narc's today, my first time transporting illegal goods so i was wondering, is there's a way to fix legal status (without useing the oxp where you pay to fix it) and also, any tips on transporting contraband "more" safely? :twisted:
Usually after a jump fugitive is changed to offender and this status is quite safe for contrabandista.

To me the most safe way is to flee towards the sun, refuel and make another jump and etc. Looks like any ships are hardly ever seen at the sun. Another trick is to use rock hermits, but ususlly there are not very good prices for narcotics.
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Mad Hollander wrote:
Usually after a jump fugitive is changed to offender and this status is quite safe for contrabandista.
Really? Hmm...
Mad Hollander wrote:
... use rock hermits, but ususlly there are not very good prices for narcotics.
Really? Hmm...
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El Viejo wrote:
Mad Hollander wrote:
Usually after a jump fugitive is changed to offender and this status is quite safe for contrabandista.
Really? Hmm...

I see that vipers try to attack only 'serious' offenders, who a very close to fugitive. I.e. if I jump some times after I bought full cargo of narc's vipers hardly ever attack me despite the fact I still offender.
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... use rock hermits, but ususlly there are not very good prices for narcotics.
Really? Hmm...
For the last two weeks I've seen good prices for narc's in rock hermits only once or twice. It's quite strange to me.
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<grins wickedly> Welcome aboard, Mad Hollander!
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Another trick is to use rock hermits, but ususlly there are not very good prices for narcotics.

Really???? I use rocks hermits for gold, platinum, and metals... very rarely do I see narcotics for sell.... The good prices are at seedy bars in anarchies or fuedals.
I stand with my sky brother... "offender is a good state of being" Hmmmm..... but one must be careful...as an offender, I have come into stations where I have been fined and forced to clean up after others in the docking bays.

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Yah-Ta-Hey wrote:
...as an offender, I have come into stations where I have been fined and forced to clean up after others in the docking bays.
Heh - those fines can be very costly (I think 6400 is the highest I've paid), and attitude adjustment is always a possibility too - but it does cleanse your legal status.
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And any survivors, their debts I will certainly pay. There's always a way!
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El Viejo wrote:
Yah-Ta-Hey wrote:
...as an offender, I have come into stations where I have been fined and forced to clean up after others in the docking bays.
Heh - those fines can be very costly (I think 6400 is the highest I've paid), and attitude adjustment is always a possibility too - but it does cleanse your legal status.
It's time-consuming, too. Thus it's better not to be caught by the cops when you're on a tight deadline.
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gavchap wrote:
Hey guys, i got caught carrying narc's today, my first time transporting illegal goods so i was wondering, is there's a way to fix legal status (without useing the oxp where you pay to fix it) and also, any tips on transporting contraband "more" safely? :twisted:
Usually after a jump fugitive is changed to offender
You can change that by installing [EliteWiki] Anarchies.oxp. :twisted: On the other hand, the OXP will also offer you alternative ways of becoming clean again.
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Yah-Ta-Hey wrote:
Really???? I use rocks hermits for gold, platinum, and metals... very rarely do I see narcotics for sell....
So do I :-) But when I try to sell my cargo in rockhermits I hardly ever see the appropriate price for narcs.
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You gotta have the knack (remembers an old '60s film, and chortles) - pull into a rock hermit in a poor ag/anarchy or feudal system, sell narcotics at 90 or above, proceed to the main station, buy furs at less than 50, return to the hermit and sell furs for over 90 - sweet!
I would advise stilts for the quagmires, and camels for the snowy hills
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See.. drip by solitary drip, the Contrabandista's secrets are coming out.. You really should write a Contrabandista Manual, EV. 8)
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A player's personal RoE come into the equation too - for example, I never engage Vipers unless I absolutely have to (and I certainly never splash a Viper except in extremis - they're just regular guys doing a rotten job, after all - and they don't have escape pods). Hunch your shoulders and take the hits, and if you cannot evade them, hyperspace out (as unfortunately Vipers cannot follow the player through their wormhole). Get your RoE firmly established, and get your contraband trade rules established - I never buy narcotics at over 10, I never sell at under 70 (and if you're a morally upright person such as myself, never deal in slaves or firearms). If you're playing the game properly, then the old dodge of a few quick jumps to clear your legal status is a complete no-no!
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El Viejo wrote:
You gotta have the knack (remembers an old '60s film, and chortles) - pull into a rock hermit in a poor ag/anarchy or feudal system, sell narcotics at 90 or above, proceed to the main station, buy furs at less than 50, return to the hermit and sell furs for over 90 - sweet!
This is what I'm talking about. Are there always good prices for that ?
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Are there always good prices for that ?
Nothing is for certain in this trade - that's half the fun!
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Re: Contraband and legal status

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With enough stations in 1 system, at least 1 station is likely to have high narcotics prices...though only the main station is likely to have any for sale. So about the only way I get narcotics is from pirates and traders. Usually, I'm not the one killing those ships...I just happen to be in the area later with a fuel scoop and a hold that isn't full.
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