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Elite Vs B5

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Y'know, thinking about Elite and B5, they do tend to share a lot in common, hostile insectoid races with very powerful ships (Thargoids and Shadows), piracy that is rife, no one in overall control of the universe, trade stations that rotate to simulate gravity, lone wolf trade ships, the list goes on and on. My guess is that J. Michael Straczynski (B5's creator) must have been a fan of Elite, perhaps he might even be a fan of Oolite too? Who knows? I know that many times I watched the show, I was thinking to myself, this is what an Elite movie would be like.

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Re: Elite Vs B5

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Lots in common for sure. The main difference I can think of is that in Elite/Oolite there is just one main authority in GalCop whereas in B5 there were several independent Empires/Alliances - hence the need for B5 itself.
But the 'feel' of both is very much the same.
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Geraldine wrote:
Thargoids and Shadows
Yep... we await Frame's mod.
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Re: Elite Vs B5

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Thats true Smives there were lots of "empires" in B5, but is there not lots of Corporate, Communist, Muti-governments ect in Elite too? These would behave very much like differing empires or alliances. Also the B5 station itself, its primary (real) function was a trade port, as that is what paid for its upkeep, especially so in the later half of the show's run. Yes it was originally set up as a meeting place to work out differences, but trade seems to be it's most common role.
Other systems in the show also had trade ports too, yep it reeks of Elite's influence :D
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El Viejo wrote:
Geraldine wrote:
Thargoids and Shadows
Yep... we await Frame's mod.
Very, very VERY 8)
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I think that both have been influenced by Asimov's "Foundation" novels. :)
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Yep, if you ever read some of Braben's comments, then Asimov is one of the listed influences for Elite, along with Niven and Clarke. I've always wanted to see a Ringworld development attempted in Oolite, but I suspect many people's computer would come to a grinding halt!!
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Star Gazer wrote:
Yep, if you ever read some of Braben's comments, then Asimov is one of the listed influences for Elite, along with Niven and Clarke. I've always wanted to see a Ringworld development attempted in Oolite, but I suspect many people's computer would come to a grinding halt!!
Absolutely Braben & Bell didn't pull the "ideas" out of thin air, all those great authors (and others) all helped them as they do us! :D
As for a Ringworld............... :wink:

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Geraldine wrote:
As for a Ringworld............... :wink:

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Looks like voxel. It shouldn't be expensive to render.
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Geraldine wrote:
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I want this in my Ooniverse!

System station or equivalent right smack in the center... *stares off into SPACE*
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Geraldine wrote:
Thats true Smives there were lots of "empires" in B5, but is there not lots of Corporate, Communist, Muti-governments ect in Elite too?
The government type is representative of the planetary government, remember.

Mind you, the Empire and the Federation are "technically" out there too, though. I know that's not strictly Elite/Oolite canon.
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Rese249er wrote:
I want this in my Ooniverse!

System station or equivalent right smack in the center... *stares off into SPACE*
Its one of the things that MIGHT make it into Pioneer at sometime in the future and yes you can land on it. :D

As for Oolite, well, if you can have giant space pizzas in the game, why not this too! :lol:
https://bb.oolite.space/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=12181
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Rese249er wrote:
Pioneer's not free... I think.
Pioneer is free and open-source!
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Re: Elite Vs B5

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El Viejo wrote:
Pioneer is free and open-source
Better watch out for viruses :P
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