The Alphabetical Ship List

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Re: The Alphabetical Ship List

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Doing 'J' now
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Correct, dimensions is not needed anymore. It will only be displayed, if width, height, and length are not given, but then volume cannot be calculated.
I was under the impression that they were when I was informed to copy the Adder list and that has the dimensions entry included! But I will leave it out now since it is not needed.
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I just checked and it looks ok to me. What is it that does not work?
I was thinking that it should be sortable. Then, this morning after a good nights sleep I realised that it would not be able to give a proper sorting, that is what the volume column is for. :oops:
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maik wrote:
Correct, dimensions is not needed anymore. It will only be displayed, if width, height, and length are not given, but then volume cannot be calculated.
I was under the impression that they were when I was informed to copy the Adder list and that has the dimensions entry included! But I will leave it out now since it is not needed.
Sorry for not making this clear earlier.
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I'll start with 'K'
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maik wrote:
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maik wrote:
Correct, dimensions is not needed anymore. It will only be displayed, if width, height, and length are not given, but then volume cannot be calculated.
I was under the impression that they were when I was informed to copy the Adder list and that has the dimensions entry included! But I will leave it out now since it is not needed.
Sorry for not making this clear earlier.
I was just re-reading through the instructions you sent me and you did make it clear. I just didn't read it properly. So it is my error and I apologise for it. :oops:
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Moving swiftly on to L.
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That's L done. Going on to M.
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Re: The Alphabetical Ship List - Transclusion?

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So how should I deal with something like the Clippers? Two ships (Python and Boa Clippers) in one OXP. Am I supposed to have three pages now - one for the OXP and one for each ship?
Yes, that would be best: one page per OXP with link to each page for each ship. Exception: If there is only one ship in an OXP then both can have the same page.
I appreciate and understand what you are trying to do here, but it cannot possibly be 'best' to have three pages instead of one! Also, I have to believe that people looking up my OXP will want all the info together on one page. It seems crazy to have the OXP 'detailed' on one page without most of the important details ie the ship descriptions and info. And if I keep the page largely as it is (with all the info pertinant to it) there will be mostly pointless duplication on the two ship pages.
I'm sure this isn't the only multi-ship OXP like this...there must be a better way to handle this, surely.
How about using Transclusion? That allows the content of one page to appear in another.

I shall give it a go right now with the Dragon and its 3 variants and see how it looks ...
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That's the M&M's done going on to the N's

I made a new page for the Moray Medical boat version. I just C&P's the entire Moray page and changed the title name and the info in the box. Hope this is ok with everybody. If anyone thinks the page should be made more unique, I am all ears!
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SandJ wrote:
How about using Transclusion? That allows the content of one page to appear in another.

I shall give it a go right now with the Dragon and its 3 variants and see how it looks ...
This is the template mechanism of MediaWiki. I'm not so sure we want to make every ship where the author put more than one infobox on one page into a template...
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maik wrote:
SandJ wrote:
How about using Transclusion? That allows the content of one page to appear in another.

I shall give it a go right now with the Dragon and its 3 variants and see how it looks ...
This is the template mechanism of MediaWiki. I'm not so sure we want to make every ship where the author put more than one infobox on one page into a template...
Heh :) Seems like I just learned a new trick--thanks SandJ for testing it.

Edit: Unfortunately, I don't think it helps with Smivs' situation where he does not want to edit separate pages but only one. Splitting out the ships and transcluding them into the main page helps assembling the main page, but the editing still needs to be done in the extracted pages.
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I'll take on 'O' now.
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Moving on to 'P'
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So are transclusions OK then? :)
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Smivs wrote:
So are transclusions OK then? :)
As I wrote above: They would allow you to assemble your main page from other pages (e.g. have main content in the main page and ship infoboxes on other pages that are then transcluded), but you would still have to work on multiple pages for the updates. Might as well work with non-transcluded pages if maintenance is your concern.
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