Docked Screens

aegidian · Post by **aegidian** » Mon Mar 13, 2006 12:16 pm

No, sorry. The thing is the mission screen stuff was written mostly to support the og. Elite missions, so I didn't expand on them very much. I'll work on it though.

milinks · Post by **milinks** » Mon Mar 13, 2006 12:41 pm

Thanks for that Giles, moved the image around as i said, should have tried that before.

using the government, economy, tech, and description of planet, so each effects the image that is shown, along with a description. Its a long winded script but it works. One thing, Giles, is that when the mission image screen comes up, i cant get back to the original planet info, is there a cancel command for the mission screen i can use?

milinks · Post by **milinks** » Wed Mar 15, 2006 8:42 pm

I have created an OXP which, at least doesnt kick me out with errors lol! so thats a bonus. it uses the planets government, tech, economy and inhabitants to display the images. At present i can display each of the four images seperately via the plist. I have made transparent pngs and GIFs for each image, but it will only display the last image. I know the plist is working correctly which leaves me to assume that oolite at present cannot handle stacked images. How problematic would it be to enable oolite to recgonise stacked images on the Mission screen? It can handle an image AND Model on the same screen, which is handy, but not two images. Any ideas as to how this could be solved, now that the Windows image issue is solved?

Edit: Nic, as you solved the image issue, do you know how i can split the MissionScreen so that i can put images in different areas? Or, how i can stack images so they can be read by oolite?

Nic · Post by **Nic** » Wed Mar 15, 2006 9:27 pm

@milinks: There's nothing windows specific that's stopping the issue. Giles is your man here to solve this. You need more functionality added, so you can specifiy more precisely what you want. Shouldn't be too tricky.....

-Nic

milinks · Post by **milinks** » Thu Mar 16, 2006 11:42 am

As far as i can ascertain, at present there isnt any possible way of expanding the atmospheric feeling of oolite using the docked screens, i.e incorporating images in relation to planet factors etc. the scripting is easy, just long winded. Ive even tried to get around the issue, by having the script display an image dependent on all of the factors, so that if one planets government, tech economy were all 5, it would give a different image to a planet having tech and economy of 5 but government of say 4. But again all you can display is one image alone, and the image programming will not allow overlaying images. Its a pity really, as missions and ships are being created thick and fast enhancing the game, but there doesnt seem to be any interest in enhancing this side of the game, after all its the aura of the game, which has kept it alive for 25 years, and this would only add to it.

aegidian · Post by **aegidian** » Thu Mar 16, 2006 11:49 am

Give me a bit of time! My to-do list is a mile long with other ideas and requests. I'm not ignoring you, just busy mm'kay?

milinks · Post by **milinks** » Thu Mar 16, 2006 12:07 pm

That wasn't aimed at you Giles, even God took six days!! Just thinking aloud in general. Sorry

Rxke · Post by **Rxke** » Thu Mar 16, 2006 4:07 pm

There is interest in it milinks, but the 'code' isn't there... Yet.
It's a bit comparable to Tionisla, which started off with a scope for things that just weren't possible, script-wise, gradually extra scripting power becomes avaialble through updates, and it is expanded upon, the time in-between: let's fill it out with brainstorming, exchangeing ideas etc.

Sadly, I'm not of the creative type (not for graphics, anyway) but I'm sure there are other people, that you could cooperate with.

The thing is: Oolite has become quite busy with requests, the more recent months, but there are comparably little people with the coding skills or time to help Giles out to fill in the needs.
Sometimes one gets lucky, brings up a suggestion, and it is easily implemented by a few lines of code, sometimes it takes some serious brain-sweat and/or time...

Back to the subject itself: how much space do you think all your imagery will be, roughly?

flap · Post by **flap** » Thu Mar 16, 2006 6:06 pm

Yep.

So many suggestion to do... At least for my part, I should stop requesting and start messing with the code.

Yep, something to seriously consider...

aegidian · Post by **aegidian** » Thu Mar 16, 2006 8:37 pm

I have been giving this request some pondering-time. It's a case of replacing the single image reference in the script with a list of references and then passing that as an array when setting mission-image.

Possibly we should pass a key to an entry in missiontext.plist or descriptions.plist to the new setBackgroundScene: method rather than the whole list of images.

It's all a bit more complicated than I feel like coding ATM. But as you can see I do have a scheme in mind.

milinks · Post by **milinks** » Fri Mar 17, 2006 12:01 am

flap:

Yep.

Stop requesting and start messing with the code

Believe me, i have read EVERY bit of the source code, and trawled throught the web, I wouldnt make any suggestion that i havent tried to address myself in the first instance. I believed that the idea of a forum was to throw ideas etc into the pot and for all to have an input, to EASE the pressure on Giles. There are a great many people visiting this site who state they are good at programming, and there are a great many others that contibute in small and large ways. I don't profess to be either but i will try all avenues firstly before asking for help..ooops slipped off my soap box again!

flap · Post by **flap** » Fri Mar 17, 2006 7:44 am

@milinks : Sorry. After re-reading my post (and even befor reading your answer) I thought :

"Oh my god, he is gonna believe that I am TELLING him to do it." Sorry again. I was here speaking to myself. I mean : I should stop requesting things.

The things you are trying to do are allready great.

I edited my orignal post...

aegidian · Post by **aegidian** » Fri Mar 17, 2006 8:11 am

No, please don't stop making requests or suggestions. Even if the tone of them sometimes grates a bit, they are an important part of Oolite's development and I wants them, I does.

milinks · Post by **milinks** » Fri Mar 17, 2006 8:11 am

No, its my bad flap, my own inadequices showing, hence the fustration, apoogies for that

Rxke · Post by **Rxke** » Fri Mar 17, 2006 8:23 am

aegidian wrote:
No, please don't stop making requests or suggestions. they are an important part of Oolite's development and I wants them, I does.

Okey, here's a suggestion: what about a laser-cooler?

/ducks/

(kidding, kidding,kidding,kidding!)