Graphics glitches on 1.74

[JazHaz]

Just been playing a session with 1.74. Very nice! Screen updates seem a lot smoother than under 1.73.4.

I have some glitches to report though. Not sure if they are all bugs or not though, or just because my computer is non-shader (Open-GL v1.5).

Click on the images to view in Flickr.

This first image is with Detailed Planets turned on, and Reduced Detail switched off. There doesn't seem to be any detail to the planet?

Also, didn't take a screenshot of it, but I can if you want, when I am close to the planet, I get "smudges" when the planet goes off the edges of my screen.



This second image is when I was approaching the sun. Suddenly the sun went black. This is actually an improvement over 1.73.4 where it would suddenly disappear altogether! At least now I can see where it is with the corona visible. But its still not right. In 1.73.4 the planets also used to go black when I got close to them, but this seems to have been fixed in 1.74.



The third image, I have discovered is a problem with System Redux OXP. EDIT: It's actually caused by Orbits.

I previously reported this issue with 1.74 trunk, but it seems to have continued with 1.74 test. The image shows a planet from Witchpoint distance, in fact I think the Witchpoint is on the scanner. Removing System Redux has solved the issue, but I want my lovely planets back please!!

[Kaks]

JazHaz, it'd be great if you can tell us how to reliably reproduce those glitches, that way we can have a better chance of removing those bugs!

About the black sun, that's a pretty cool effect! I want!

[JazHaz]

JazHaz, it'd be great if you can tell us how to reliably reproduce those glitches, that way we can have a better chance of removing those bugs!

Thats tough to say really. I've only played two sessions with 1.74. But I suspect a lot of it is down to the fact that I've not got shaders available.

Can you perhaps try switching shaders off and then seeing if you can reproduce them?

[DaddyHoggy]

JazHaz, it'd be great if you can tell us how to reliably reproduce those glitches, that way we can have a better chance of removing those bugs!

About the black sun, that's a pretty cool effect! I want!

I was thinking he had fitted a very good auto-filtering system on his optics!

[JensAyton]

But I suspect a lot of it is down to the fact that I've not got shaders available.

While I like completely unmotivated guessing as much as the next guy, I do test with shaders disabled, quite a lot. It’s supposed to work, and for most people it seems it does.

[JazHaz]

Have been through my log but there are no obvious errors that might explain these glitches.

EDIT: is there anything I can switch on in logcontrol.plist that might help to narrow them down?

[another_commander]

Graphics drivers is my guess, especially if you had such problems also with 1.73.4. Can you please post a log where the renderer version and extensions list is shown?

[JazHaz]

Graphics drivers is my guess, especially if you had such problems also with 1.73.4. Can you please post a log where the renderer version and extensions list is shown?

OK here is the first part of my log:

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[log.header]: Opening log for Oolite version 1.74 (x86-32 test release) under Windows at 2010-06-15 21:19:59 +0100.
2 processors detected.
Oolite options: procedural planet textures, docking clearance, wormhole scanner, target incoming missiles, spoken messages, JavaScript console support, OXP verifier, localization tools, debug GraphViz support.

Note that the contents of the log file can be adjusted by editing logcontrol.plist.

[joystickHandler.init]: Number of joysticks detected: 0
[display.mode.list.native]: Windows native resolution detected: 1280 x 800
[oxp.message]: ../AddOns/RandomHits1.3.8(beta).oxp: This is a test copy of Random Hits for personal use, don't spread
[oxp.message]: ../AddOns/RandomHits1.3.8(beta).oxp: Check if this file contains textures and models. If not, they must be copied in from an older Random Hits version
[dataCache.rebuild.explicitFlush]: Cache explicitly flushed with shift key. Rebuilding from scratch.
[searchPaths.dumpAll]: Unrestricted Mode - Resources paths:
    Resources
    ../AddOns
    ../AddOns/ACS_1.0.oxp
    ../AddOns/adcks_behemoths_v1.2.oxp
    ../AddOns/adcks_bulk_haulers_v1.4.oxp
    ../AddOns/adck_galnavy_station.oxp
    ../AddOns/Anarchies2.3.oxp
    ../AddOns/Aquatics 2.20.oxp
    ../AddOns/Armoury 1.00.oxp
    ../AddOns/Assassins.oxp
    ../AddOns/BigShips 1.02.oxp
    ../AddOns/BlOomberg Markets v2.0.oxp
    ../AddOns/BoaClipper.oxp
    ../AddOns/BountyScannerv1.07.oxp
    ../AddOns/buoyRepair1.02.5.oxp
    ../AddOns/captKev_dodo.oxp
    ../AddOns/Commies.oxp
    ../AddOns/Contractor.oxp
    ../AddOns/Debug.oxp
    ../AddOns/DeepSpacePirates 1.2.4.oxp
    ../AddOns/Dictators v1.3.oxp
    ../AddOns/display_reputation.oxp
    ../AddOns/Dredgers 2.4.2.oxp
    ../AddOns/Energy Equipment 1.10.oxp
    ../AddOns/ettBeaconLauncher.oxp
    ../AddOns/FTZ v0.13.oxp
    ../AddOns/Fuel Tank v2.2.oxp
    ../AddOns/Galactic_Navy 5.2.2.oxp
    ../AddOns/Generation Ships 1.1.oxp
    ../AddOns/griff_shipset_dizzy's_all_in_1.oxp
    ../AddOns/Hired Guns 1.20.oxp
    ../AddOns/hOopyCasino1.2.oxp
    ../AddOns/impcourier2.oxp
    ../AddOns/imptrader.oxp
    ../AddOns/kirin.oxp
    ../AddOns/milmissile.oxp
    ../AddOns/Missile Analyser 1.1.1.oxp
    ../AddOns/Missiles and Bombs v2.4.oxp
    ../AddOns/neolite-companion.oxp
    ../AddOns/neolite-wolfies.oxp
    ../AddOns/neolite.oxp
    ../AddOns/nuke.oxp
    ../AddOns/oldships2010.oxp
    ../AddOns/Oo-Haul.oxp
    ../AddOns/Ore_processor 1.55.oxp
    ../AddOns/OXPConfig1.08.oxp
    ../AddOns/pagroove_Aurorav1.0.oxp
    ../AddOns/PlanetFall 1.30.oxp
    ../AddOns/PlanetFall Link - hOopy Casino 1.0.oxp
    ../AddOns/PlanetFall Mission - Oo-Haul 1.10.oxp
    ../AddOns/PlanetFall Mission - Taxi 1.10.oxp
    ../AddOns/Pods 1.20.oxp
    ../AddOns/Pods-UPS 1.20.oxp
    ../AddOns/RandomDockingMusicv1.00.oxp
    ../AddOns/RandomHits1.3.8(beta).oxp
    ../AddOns/RepairBots 2.00.oxp
    ../AddOns/Rock_Hermit_Locator1.3.2.oxp
    ../AddOns/Snoopers1.0.1.oxp
    ../AddOns/Snoopers2.0.2.oxp
    ../AddOns/starsoarer.oxp
    ../AddOns/Superhubv1.2.oxp
    ../AddOns/TAF_reset.oxp
    ../AddOns/The Feudal States v1.6.oxp
    ../AddOns/UPS-courier v1.7.oxp
    ../AddOns/Welcome Mat 1.06.oxp
    ../AddOns/YOUR_AD_HERE.oxp
    ../AddOns/YOUR_AD_HERE.oxp/YOUR_AD_HERE.oxp
    ../AddOns/YOUR_AD_HERE_set_A.oxp
    ../AddOns/YOUR_AD_HERE_set_B.oxp
    ../AddOns/YOUR_AD_HERE_set_C.oxp
    ../AddOns/YOUR_AD_HERE_set_D.oxp
    ../AddOns/YOUR_AD_HERE_set_E.oxp
    ../AddOns/YOUR_AD_HERE_set_F.oxp
[rendering.opengl.version]: OpenGL renderer version: 1.5.0 ("1.5.0")
Vendor: SiS
Renderer: Mirage Graphics3
[rendering.opengl.extensions]: OpenGL extensions (62):
GL_ARB_transpose_matrix, GL_EXT_polygon_offset, GL_ARB_occlusion_query, GL_ARB_texture_cube_map, GL_HP_occlusion_test, WGL_ARB_extensions_string, GL_EXT_vertex_array, GL_ARB_texture_env_dot3, GL_EXT_texture_edge_clamp, GL_EXT_blend_color, GL_EXT_rescale_normal, GL_ARB_texture_env_combine, GL_EXT_separate_specular_color, GL_ARB_texture_mirrored_repeat, GL_ARB_texture_border_clamp, GL_EXT_fog_coord, GL_EXT_draw_range_elements, GL_ARB_texture_non_power_of_two, GL_NV_blend_square, GL_ARB_depth_texture, WGL_EXT_swap_control, GL_NV_occlusion_query, GL_KTX_buffer_region, GL_EXT_texture_env_combine, GL_EXT_multi_draw_arrays, GL_EXT_bgra, GL_ARB_texture_env_add, GL_ARB_shadow, GL_EXT_swap_control, GL_EXT_texture_object, GL_EXT_packed_pixels, GL_EXT_texture3D, GL_EXT_blend_subtract, GL_ARB_window_pos, GL_ATI_element_array, GL_WIN_swap_hint, GL_EXT_point_parameters, GL_EXT_texture_lod_bias, GL_ARB_texture_compression, GL_SGIS_multitexture, GL_EXT_secondary_color, GL_ARB_texture_env_crossbar, GL_EXT_shadow_funcs, GL_EXT_abgr, GL_ARB_fragment_program, GL_SGIS_texture_edge_clamp, GL_SGIS_generate_mipmap, GL_ARB_vertex_program, GL_EXT_texture_env_add, GL_EXT_stencil_two_side, GL_ARB_multisample, GL_EXT_texture_env_dot3, GL_EXT_blend_func_separate, GL_EXT_blend_minmax, GL_EXT_texture_filter_anisotropic, GL_ARB_point_parameters, GL_ARB_multitexture, GL_EXT_stencil_wrap, GL_NV_point_sprite, GL_EXT_compiled_vertex_array, GL_ARB_vertex_buffer_object, GL_SGIS_texture_lod
[rendering.opengl.shader.support]: Shaders will not be used (OpenGL extension GL_ARB_shading_language_100 is not available).

EDIT: oh and I realised 10 mins ago that I had two versions of Snoopers installed, but I doubt this is causing these problems.

[another_commander]

SiS. I rest my case.

[DaddyHoggy]

Oh dear SiS graphics...

EDIT: Ninja'd

[JazHaz]

SiS. I rest my case.

However in 1.73.4 I at least had detailed planets, with and without System Redux. No longer in 1.74. So its not just down to the card.

EDIT: its not a particularly good example image, but here is a screenshot from 1.73.4 with a planet with detail showing:

[JensAyton]

Yeah.

As a Mac user of twenty years, I’m loath to shout “get a real <X>”, but in this case, it’s appropriate. SIS is to OpenGL what a $3 RULOX is to high-quality chronometry.

[JazHaz]

As a Mac user of twenty years, I’m loath to shout “get a real <X>”, but in this case, it’s appropriate. SIS is to OpenGL what a $3 RULOX is to high-quality chronometry.

Unfortunately, due to still not having a job, I'm unlikely to be getting an upgraded PC any time soon.

[JensAyton]

I appreciate that, but there’s really nothing we can do about it without a similar broken system to test on.

[another_commander]

JazHaz, does it display correctly if you take out all OXPs?