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[RELEASED] The Copperhead

Posted: Mon Apr 18, 2011 12:57 am
by CaptSolo
With encouragement from El Viego I have reached stage 2 of this ship OXP. At this point the paint job is not finished. I have never modeled and skinned a ship before so I would certainly welcome suggestions and critique. I have several older versions of the texture file so I can try different methods if this one is as you Brits might say, "Rather ugly that".


Edit: This is the final texturing of the player and escort variants of the Copperhead:
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Re: [WIP] The Copperhead

Posted: Mon Apr 18, 2011 1:21 pm
by pagroove
Looks good. Now try and add more detail.

Re: [WIP] The Copperhead

Posted: Tue Apr 19, 2011 6:22 pm
by CaptSolo
Tried to add more detail - ta Pagroove. Still not finished. Thanks to Smivs who sent me some artwork to incorporate. I think he was telling me to make the cockpit viewport smaller and I will do that. At this point going to look at it in game before continuing with the detailing.

Re: [WIP] The Copperhead

Posted: Tue Apr 19, 2011 6:40 pm
by Smivs
CaptSolo wrote:
I think he was telling me to make the cockpit viewport smaller
No.
I don't know how big the Copperhead is, so judging scale is difficult. My concern was that it's easy (or at least I found it easy) to make them too big. Easy answer - check the width and length, then work out what a sensible size is. For example if the ship is 50m long, and the width of the cockpit is about a tenth of the ship's length, you've got a 5m wide cockpit. That's about 15 feet in English, and would actually be quite a big cockpit.
Having said that, if you make it a 'sensible' size, it might be too small to see!

Texture's coming on nicely :D

Re: [WIP] The Copperhead

Posted: Wed Apr 20, 2011 3:02 pm
by Staer9
I see you have moved your project to a different thread, the texture looks great (I am rubish at texturing... all I ever do is select blender's texture paint option then I scribble all over it several times) One thing that you could do is stretch the exhaust ring, at the moment it is very circular, I think an oval might look better. other than that you could put a metal_tex image over the top in a layer and set blend mode to overlay, then play about with the opacity. Or just set the shinyness in the shipdata.plist which does pretty much the same thing.

Re: [WIP] The Copperhead

Posted: Wed Apr 20, 2011 3:50 pm
by CaptSolo
I'm an idiot! I had the ship length along the X axis. I should have known better having viewed the dimensions of the Anaconda. Fixed this morning and the texture file still works but I did have to tweak the scaling.

Re: [WIP] The Copperhead

Posted: Sat Apr 23, 2011 11:15 pm
by CaptSolo
Pirate Copperhead encountered:

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Also player, escort and interceptor AI's. When satisfied will post d/l link in this thread for anyone who wishes to add it to their Ooniverse.

Concerning the exhaust plume: I searched here for correct definition of the number descriptors to no avail so assumed first three were coordinates and last three might be width, length, and injector length. Could some one correct me on this.

Re: [WIP] The Copperhead

Posted: Sat Apr 23, 2011 11:43 pm
by Cody
That's looking really nice, Solo... I've no idea about co-ords though.

Re: [WIP] The Copperhead

Posted: Sun Apr 24, 2011 12:53 am
by DaddyHoggy
From another thread somewhere (apologies - can't quote original poster)

exhaust

x y z width height length

length in meters, how long a plume is on z axis. (This value is in current Oolite versions ignored. Length is now derived from the ships speed)

Re: [WIP] The Copperhead

Posted: Sun Apr 24, 2011 6:57 am
by Thargoid
To quote the (now returned) wiki shipdata page

exhaust
The XYZ position(s) of exhaust plume(s), and the XYZ of the plume shape, ergo

x y z width height length
x y z is the position relative to the origin of the main model.

width in meters, how wide a plume is on x axis. (x radius)

height in meters, how tall a plume is on y axis. (y radius)

length in meters, how long a plume is on z axis. (This value is in current Oolite versions ignored. Length is now derived from the ships speed)


Below are 2 assigned plumes at coords 5, 0, -25 and -5, 0, -25, and each plume is 6 m wide and 4 m tall. (length info is ignored)

Example:

"exhaust" = (
"5 0.0 -25 6.0 4.0 10.0",
"-5 0.0 -25 6.0 4.0 10.0"
);

Re: [WIP] The Copperhead

Posted: Mon Apr 25, 2011 12:39 am
by CaptSolo
Think I'm nearly done tweaking the plists. There are four variants: player, escort, pirate, and a GalCop route patroler. I have no idea why anyone would want to use it as a player ship as it's max cargo is set to 10 and no large cargo bay available. It is after all a fairly small ship as was it's predecessor in the Arch version of Elite but having flown it and fought with it, I can say it is a tough ship. Only scenario for a player could possibly be passenger transport but I would quickly tire of that I think. The backstory for the ship will be given with it's release except to say it's main role is as a support craft. The GalCop version has an upgraded engine so it doesn't slow down the Vipers. The pirate and GalCop versions have modified paint jobs. It is my first ship so if it sucks that is why.

Re: [WIP] The Copperhead

Posted: Mon Apr 25, 2011 2:01 pm
by Commander Wilmot
Looks nice, I'm impressed. Let me know when it is finished, I like having a variety of ships to fight.

Re: [WIP] The Copperhead

Posted: Tue Apr 26, 2011 3:22 am
by CaptSolo
After reading the Oolite Wiki shipdata.plist page I have decided to drop the Galcop variant. In it's place will be the Copperhead Bewary variant. This ship has been assigned route1traderAI with roles of hunter, scavenger, trader, and hermit-ship.

Re: [WIP] The Copperhead

Posted: Tue Apr 26, 2011 6:48 am
by Switeck
"with roles of hunter, scavenger, trader, and hermit-ship"
If you haven't, you might want to put numbers on those to make it a rare ship as those.
It might be full weight hunter which is the same as hunter(1.0), but uncommon as a scavenger(0.4), rare as a trader(0.1), and semi-rare as a hermit-ship(0.25).
Sure you don't want it to be a very rare pirate(0.05)? :wink:

Like this in total:
roles = "hunter pirate(0.05) scavenger(0.4) trader(0.1) hermit-ship(0.25)";

Re: [WIP] The Copperhead

Posted: Tue Apr 26, 2011 1:09 pm
by CaptSolo
Many thanks Switeck. I wasn't aware of chance of occurrence assignment.