Coming Clean!

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Re: Coming Clean!

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Commander McLane wrote:
However, it's not a government official, but the news bulletin of iNews, who may well be the 32nd century equivalent of the Sun, for all we know.
Ah, good point, my apologies. :oops:
And certainly all for consistency esp. if the iNews headlines have been used before.
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Amnesty means both. In the words of Webster's dictionary:
Again: :oops:
I had never heard of it being used to strike a record clean before, and that usage/wording just sounds 'wrong' to me. But I stand corrected.

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Micha wrote:
Commander McLane wrote:
However, it's not a government official, but the news bulletin of iNews, who may well be the 32nd century equivalent of the Sun, for all we know.
Ah, good point, my apologies. :oops:
And certainly all for consistency esp. if the iNews headlines have been used before.
This really seems a job for Snoopers OXP to lead into this OXP via their news...
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Switeck wrote:
Micha wrote:
Commander McLane wrote:
However, it's not a government official, but the news bulletin of iNews, who may well be the 32nd century equivalent of the Sun, for all we know.
Ah, good point, my apologies. :oops:
And certainly all for consistency esp. if the iNews headlines have been used before.
This really seems a job for Snoopers OXP to lead into this OXP via their news...
That's an idea worth thinking about.
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Micha wrote:
Again: :oops:
I had never heard of it being used to strike a record clean before, and that usage/wording just sounds 'wrong' to me. But I stand corrected.
'Amnestie' has become a generally used Dutch word, and in our country it means a removal of any punishment. I think the same is valid for Germany. The other meaning was new to me. That makes translations sometimes difficult as the same word can have slightly different meanings in different countries.
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Apart from the semantics:

Eric, would it make sense to include Free Trade Zones in the places where the offer would be made?

Any other places?
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Micha wrote:
Again: :oops:
I had never heard of it being used to strike a record clean before, and that usage/wording just sounds 'wrong' to me. But I stand corrected.
As far as I can see in Wikipedia, the last amnesty in England was granted in 1747 to those who had taken part in the Jacobite rising of 1745. And before that, Charles II granted amnesty after the civil war, except to those who had taken part in the execution of his father.

So it may recently have come out of use a little, although both the crown and the parliament retain the right to grant amnesties. :)
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In recent years, some UK police forces have had 'amnesties' for guns and knives where these can be handed in no questions asked. Not really a 'proper' amnesty, but the term is still used.
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If you're talking about wiping the slate clean, then 'pardon' is really the correct term.
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El Viejo wrote:
If you're talking about wiping the slate clean, then 'pardon' is really the correct term.
A pardon is individual. An amnesty is a blanket offer to pardon anyone fulfilling certain criteria under specified conditions. There have been pirate amnesties in real life (“Sail to Footown by this date and surrender your weapons and ships and we won’t hang you or anything, no really”).
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Commander McLane wrote:
Apart from the semantics:

Eric, would it make sense to include Free Trade Zones in the places where the offer would be made?

Any other places?
I think FTZs could be one place where the offer is made. If you're going to make the OXP usable for everyone (i.e. not dependent on other OXPs) the offer could be made in main stations in Anarchy systems, and maybe Feudal and Multi-Government ones, too.

Actually, is there any need to limit where the amnesty notice is posted? Surely GalCop would want it to be disseminated as widely as possible?

Perhaps there could be different newsflashes about it in different systems. Corporate States could deplore GalCop's craven offer to these brigands who prey on honest merchantmen (think Daily Telegraph); Democracies and Confederacies could have pious hopes for greater stability (The Guardian); Communist worlds would be suspicious, viewing it as a bourgeois trick to legitimise gangster capitalism (The Socialist Worker); Dictatorships would blame everything on foreigners (The Daily Mail) ...
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Disembodied wrote:
Perhaps there could be different newsflashes about it in different systems. Corporate States could deplore GalCop's craven offer to these brigands who prey on honest merchantmen (think Daily Telegraph); Democracies and Confederacies could have pious hopes for greater stability (The Guardian); Communist worlds would be suspicious, viewing it as a bourgeois trick to legitimise gangster capitalism (The Socialist Worker); Dictatorships would blame everything on foreigners (The Daily Mail) ...
Love it... the world of the press in a nutshell.
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...and a good explanation as to why I never buy a newspaper. :D
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Smivs wrote:
...and a good explanation as to why I never buy a newspaper. :D
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I stopped buying my usual read (The Times) when Murdoch's crew took over. Never bought a newspaper since.
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El Viejo wrote:
I stopped buying my usual read (The Times) when Murdoch's crew took over. Never bought a newspaper since.
I don't have Sky and dropped Virgin (because they purchase a subset of the Sky Channels) Cable TV for the same reason.
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